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Postby bluebird58 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:55 am

I was hoping it would have been after we played them on Saturday :bluescarf:
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby Forever Blue » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:05 am

Saints have sacked manager Mark Hughes.

Monday 3rd December 2018

The Welshman learned his fate this morning after arriving at Staplewood.

Former Saints goalkeeper and current first team coach Kelvin Davis will take training and be in charge for the Wednesday night fixture at Tottenham with Saints hoping to have a new man in charge for the crucial visit to Cardiff on Saturday.

Hughes arrived at St Mary’s in March on a short-term contract after the sacking of Mauricio Pellegrino and helped Saints to eight points in eight games at the end of the campaign to stave off the threat of Premier League relegation.
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby pembroke allan » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:22 am

Over rated always takes ages to get team to perform then fades away again! Tactically not very astute as Wales found out couple times. :old:
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby Sam ReaN » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:44 am

the worst news for Cardiff this is, because they will get a new manager and get better and will make it tough for us.
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby Alan_in_China » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:02 am

Sam ReaN wrote:the worst news for Cardiff this is, because they will get a new manager and get better and will make it tough for us.


Well, let's hope Spurs give them a hiding on Wednesday, to knock any growing confidence out of them!
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby Sven » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:10 am

Disappointing and, like others, hoped it would be next Monday! :(
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby Bluebina » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:32 am

That's a shame, we will have to play them fired up to impress a New Manager, hopefully, it's not a firefighting specialist like Allardyce !!!
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby worcester_ccfc » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:34 am

Strange timing. Must have someone lined up already. Could understand if it was a week ago but they’ve just got a good home point against Man Utd.

Praying they don’t bring in Allardyce now. You can’t guarantee survival, but bringing in Big Sam is as close as you can get.
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby SirJimmySchoular » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:39 am

Well there's another tactically helpful event.
Contrary to what someone suggested , no manager is likely to make an immediate difference and morale will certainly suffer for a while. That really should give us an extra chance of beating them
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby Bluebird1990 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:46 am

can't see them getting a replacement before they play us so could work in our favour
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby Bluebina » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:09 pm

Ralph Hasenhuttl the leading candidate to replace Mark Hughes at Southampton.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7884977/ ... rk-hughes/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... -27-reign/
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby montyblue » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:09 pm

Lining up german manager for our game as an easy introduction up to us to not cave in but it will be 3 games 7 days so hopefully make a few changes for the hammers and strongest team for the saints
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby TopCat CCFC » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:47 pm

Alan_in_China wrote:
Sam ReaN wrote:the worst news for Cardiff this is, because they will get a new manager and get better and will make it tough for us.


Well, let's hope Spurs give them a hiding on Wednesday, to knock any growing confidence out of them!


Spot On .
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby 2blue2handle » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:52 pm

Never rated Hughes as a manager, seem to get job after job for failing but that's football.
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby JJ1927 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:24 pm

Quite like him as a person and a great player but don't really rate him as a manager. Seems to have build his reputation on narrowly missing out on the Euros which the English media regarded patronisingly as a glorious effort by little Wales. In truth that was a failure because he had some really good players to work with. (Speed, Giggs, Hartson, Bellamy, Gabbidon etc) and our first 11 was at one time I believe (unusually for Wales) an all Premier League line up.
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby dogfound » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:29 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Never rated Hughes as a manager, seem to get job after job for failing but that's football.



not sure where failing comes into it tbh, I don't think he is great but failing?

did well enough with Wales to be given the Blackburn job, did well enough there to get the Man City job...got sacked by them for too many draws....1 defeat in 19 competitive games the year he got sacked....Fulham he resigned quoting lack of ambition by them....QPR sacked for being in relegation zone but that's exactly where they were when he got there...Stoke..their 3 highest prem finishes and highest top tier position for 30 years..and Southampton , pretty much where they were when he went there.....

seriously what would not be FAILING at these clubs ?...even City { who are a top 6 club now }hadn't won a trophy since a lge cup win in 1976..
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby Tonteg Bluebird » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:21 pm

dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Never rated Hughes as a manager, seem to get job after job for failing but that's football.



not sure where failing comes into it tbh, I don't think he is great but failing?

did well enough with Wales to be given the Blackburn job, did well enough there to get the Man City job...got sacked by them for too many draws....1 defeat in 19 competitive games the year he got sacked....Fulham he resigned quoting lack of ambition by them....QPR sacked for being in relegation zone but that's exactly where they were when he got there...Stoke..their 3 highest prem finishes and highest top tier position for 30 years..and Southampton , pretty much where they were when he went there.....

seriously what would not be FAILING at these clubs ?...even City { who are a top 6 club now }hadn't won a trophy since a lge cup win in 1976..


You are correct apart from when he took over at QPR. Hughes took over QPR from our very own Neil Warnock, who never had QPR in the relegation zone until his sacking. The QPR board never backed Warnock with funds and much to Warnock's annoyance, they then backed Hughes with 30 million to strengthen the squad as soon as they appointed him. It was enough for Hughes to just keep them up, but he then squandered tens of millions on some disastrous signings the following season taking them deep into the relegation zone and got sacked. I think it's fair to say with the money Hughes was given to spend, he failed at QPR.

I think Hughes should have done a lot better at Southampton too, they have some talented players and I'm worried a good manager will get them improving very quickly. It's unbelievable that yet again, a rival team sacks their manager just before playing us. Southampton will be a much different proposition now, that's for sure! :banghead:
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby Bridgend_bluebird » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:59 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Never rated Hughes as a manager, seem to get job after job for failing but that's football.


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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby HarriRhys22 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:28 pm

Never relegated as a player or Manager,sacked by Stoke this time last year and look what happened to them! Kept Southampton up last year and relegated the Jacks,let’s hope Southampton follow Stoke and the Jacks to the Championship!
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby dogfound » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:08 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Never rated Hughes as a manager, seem to get job after job for failing but that's football.



not sure where failing comes into it tbh, I don't think he is great but failing?

did well enough with Wales to be given the Blackburn job, did well enough there to get the Man City job...got sacked by them for too many draws....1 defeat in 19 competitive games the year he got sacked....Fulham he resigned quoting lack of ambition by them....QPR sacked for being in relegation zone but that's exactly where they were when he got there...Stoke..their 3 highest prem finishes and highest top tier position for 30 years..and Southampton , pretty much where they were when he went there.....

seriously what would not be FAILING at these clubs ?...even City { who are a top 6 club now }hadn't won a trophy since a lge cup win in 1976..


You are correct apart from when he took over at QPR. Hughes took over QPR from our very own Neil Warnock, who never had QPR in the relegation zone until his sacking. The QPR board never backed Warnock with funds and much to Warnock's annoyance, they then backed Hughes with 30 million to strengthen the squad as soon as they appointed him. It was enough for Hughes to just keep them up, but he then squandered tens of millions on some disastrous signings the following season taking them deep into the relegation zone and got sacked. I think it's fair to say with the money Hughes was given to spend, he failed at QPR.

I think Hughes should have done a lot better at Southampton too, they have some talented players and I'm worried a good manager will get them improving very quickly. It's unbelievable that yet again, a rival team sacks their manager just before playing us. Southampton will be a much different proposition now, that's for sure! :banghead:



you are correct about them not being in the relegation zone when he took over ,they were 1 pt outside but had not won in 9 . and yes he spent a lot to keep them up.....similarly after his sacking Redknapp had a similar war chest and more games but failed to do likewise and keep them up...listening to things our manager has said about the place there was more wrong there than who the manager was..

personally I think Southampton have lost their way thinking they can sell their best and replace cheaply...

but back to Hughes...I don't see the constant failing which was implied when the best evidence is he kept
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby dogfound » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:20 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Never rated Hughes as a manager, seem to get job after job for failing but that's football.



not sure where failing comes into it tbh, I don't think he is great but failing?

did well enough with Wales to be given the Blackburn job, did well enough there to get the Man City job...got sacked by them for too many draws....1 defeat in 19 competitive games the year he got sacked....Fulham he resigned quoting lack of ambition by them....QPR sacked for being in relegation zone but that's exactly where they were when he got there...Stoke..their 3 highest prem finishes and highest top tier position for 30 years..and Southampton , pretty much where they were when he went there.....

seriously what would not be FAILING at these clubs ?...even City { who are a top 6 club now }hadn't won a trophy since a lge cup win in 1976..


You are correct apart from when he took over at QPR. Hughes took over QPR from our very own Neil Warnock, who never had QPR in the relegation zone until his sacking. The QPR board never backed Warnock with funds and much to Warnock's annoyance, they then backed Hughes with 30 million to strengthen the squad as soon as they appointed him. It was enough for Hughes to just keep them up, but he then squandered tens of millions on some disastrous signings the following season taking them deep into the relegation zone and got sacked. I think it's fair to say with the money Hughes was given to spend, he failed at QPR.

I think Hughes should have done a lot better at Southampton too, they have some talented players and I'm worried a good manager will get them improving very quickly. It's unbelievable that yet again, a rival team sacks their manager just before playing us. Southampton will be a much different proposition now, that's for sure! :banghead:



sorry I just don't see the constant failing...when the best case for it is he kept a club up { you are correct about the relegation zone,they were 1point above having not won in 9 } by spending loads and the guy after him failed to do likewise with more games and plenty of money...
as for Southampton...only time will tell but I think they believe their own press and think everyone is replaceable..they are not...lost too many very good players...yes they have good players left but so did Stoke..Newcastle..WBA..QPR..even Swansea {who managed to sell 7 players for a mill plus..and ki went out of contract..and 45million worth on loan }….sometimes the prob;lems run deeper than good players and who the manager is..?
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby 2blue2handle » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:13 pm

dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Never rated Hughes as a manager, seem to get job after job for failing but that's football.



not sure where failing comes into it tbh, I don't think he is great but failing?

did well enough with Wales to be given the Blackburn job, did well enough there to get the Man City job...got sacked by them for too many draws....1 defeat in 19 competitive games the year he got sacked....Fulham he resigned quoting lack of ambition by them....QPR sacked for being in relegation zone but that's exactly where they were when he got there...Stoke..their 3 highest prem finishes and highest top tier position for 30 years..and Southampton , pretty much where they were when he went there.....

seriously what would not be FAILING at these clubs ?...even City { who are a top 6 club now }hadn't won a trophy since a lge cup win in 1976..


That's your opinion.
Wales he used for short term success, allowed the squad to grow old together so he could get his prem move which was always the option. Failed to bring in any youth even into squad and the next manager was left with nothing. Took a long time to recover.

Blackburn he did well and deserved his move to man City where he showed he was totally out of his depth with your typical singings.

Fulham i don't really remember I'm assuming unsuccessful, Al Fayed referred to him as a flop and Hughes later said he regretted leaving.

Qpr spent a fortune and was a disaster no doubt about that one. Team went down

Stoke some decent times but in the end was taking them down. Team went down.

Southampton struggling and sacked while bottom 3.

If be more than happy for him to get a job at one of our rivals.
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby northernbluebird » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:03 pm

it was clear this would happen a few weeks back - again, not sure why clubs hesitate for a few weeks when they know they will sack the manager. in this case, they were making enquiries and look likely to confirm the former RB Leipzig manager before the weekend - following the latest managerial fad.

nowadays they are a poor team, and in need serious investment. it's a shame we haven't played them already because i think we would have beaten them, especially at home.
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby rumpo kid » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:21 pm

They’re unlikely to turn into Barcelona by Saturday mate..
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Re: Mark Hughes Sacked!

Postby TopCat CCFC » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:04 pm

Away to Spurs tomorrow - then a massive game with us on saturday .
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