Politics and race in football

Politics and racism is only being discussed because I am not saying us exactly but supporters have brought it into play in the first place.

I think like everything you see now everyone reads inbetween the lines of every single word you use in a sentence now and someone can manage to take an insult or some sort of offence out of it but I must say there are a lot of people in the media who have such a negative attitude towards black players compared to white players and it really does need answering, I think if you disagree then there is nothing but narrow mindedness.

I watched that Debate programme when Sol bamba was on there and you had Danny Murphy talking about calling a player a beast years ago. Ruud Gullit was his fellow pundit and asked Murphy if he's ever described a white player as a beast. Murphy said he no longer uses the word beast anymore for fear of racism.

Lukaku being called lazy was also discussed as wrong because the word lazy is disrespectful to the history of how black people used to be treated. I guess that's the end to us all calling Kenneth Zohore lazy then.

I just think it's going so over the top with us being told what we can and what we can't say. Racism is 100% wrong, but twisting it to say we can't call anyone lazy anymore is ridiculous. We will start running out of words to use because they are finding a way to link so many words we innocently use as being disrespectful to black people now.

The lack of black managers were discussed, although they then went on to reveal Sol Campbell has a history of not interviewing very well. Patrick Vieira and Thierry Henry have had no problems getting managerial jobs. Maybe there just aren't enough black managers up to standard in the UK at the moment?

Why have the Phillipines national team hired Sven Goran Eriksson as their manager? Is Phillipines being racist against its own people employing a white manager, or is it simply because a white manager was the best candidate at the time? Why do other black nations employ white managers for their countries?

There was outrage over no black actors being nominated for the Oscars, despite there being several black Oscar winners in previous years. Maybe there just weren't any good enough black actors throughout that year to warrant getting nominated?

Regarding Raheem Sterling, it's of course 100% wrong what he's had to put up with from those Chelsea fans, but he hasn't done himself any favours over the years gloating about all the money he's earning and the expensive houses, cars etc he's bought. His gloating antagonises the ordinary person (black or white). Raheem Sterling's behaviour over the years has made him unpopular and therefore, an easy target.

However, it seems perfectly acceptable for English people to racially abuse Welsh people and there are instances where black people know they are now in a position of power knowing they can push boundaries and get away with it. There are racism claims which are unreasonable and over the top. In my opinion, these unreasonable false racism claims by black people trying it on, in an attempt to gain further privileges/power is antagonistic to white people and creates further divisions.

Ideally, every black and white person would respect each other and get on with life together in a civil manner. Racism works both ways. It happens to white people as well. The only difference is a white person is scared to say something about it as black people are always considered the victims, and this is what triggers racism in the first place in my opinion.

If we treated each other equally, behave reasonably to each other, respect each other and work together, we could unite together and tackle racism. I don't think playing the victim, playing the system and pushing agendas will ever make racism go away, as this just creates the divisions we currently experience in life, which I think is the cause of racism in the first place.

You think Raheem Stirling’s racist abuse is brought upon himself ? When have you ever see sterling brag about flashy cars and jewellery, it’s the media that post and share these things because they have nothing better to report on. It kills some English fans knowing that one of their best players is black. You’re being force fed racism in these vile newspaper, you think sterling wants to plastered across newspapers every time he buys a new car or home ?

I bet you believe Muslims want Christmas banned too ?

You’re being told these lies and lap it up, doing exactly what these newspapers want you to do, vilify and hate those (believe it or not) similar to you. It takes the load of those in power when people direct their frustrations at those with no power and no voice.

Like I said, Sterling regularly used to gloat on his social media. Unfortunately, there are quite a few Liverpool fans in my area and I've seen several links pop up over the years from disgruntled Liverpool fans showing Sterling acting cocky and bragging, especially when he moved to Man City. It seems Sterling is advised much better now, but people don't forget things. That's my opinion and for the record, I don't take any interest in any of the nonsense the press/media feeds us with their pathetic agendas.

I don't know how you can say the reason Sterling gets targeted is because it kills English fans that one of their best players is black? What about the dozens of other good black players England have had?

Sol Campbell, Ledley King, Ian Wright, Les Ferdinand, Theo Walcott, Danny Rose, Ashley Young, Kyle Walker, Nathaniel Clyne, Wilfred Zaha, Andros Townsend, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Jadon Sancho, Des Walker, Paul Ince, Jermaine Defoe etc etc.

Even Ashley Cole who had his high profile life with Cheryl wasn't targeted like Sterling.

The reason Sterling is targeted more than any other black English player over the years is because as a person, he is disliked because of his previous actions. Obviously, that doesn't make it acceptable, but I think you need to accept Sterling's previous behaviour has made him unpopular and in my opinion, his skin colour has very little to do with why he's targeted.

[quote="DandoCCFC"]Politics and racism is only being discussed because I am not saying us exactly but supporters have brought it into play in the first place.

I think like everything you see now everyone reads inbetween the lines of every single word you use in a sentence now and someone can manage to take an insult or some sort of offence out of it but I must say there are a lot of people in the media who have such a negative attitude towards black players compared to white players and it really does need answering, I think if you disagree then there is nothing but narrow mindedness.[/quote


there have been loads of white players hounded and treated unfairly by the press too...and anyone that does not agree is narrow minded..

Politics and racism is only being discussed because I am not saying us exactly but supporters have brought it into play in the first place.

I think like everything you see now everyone reads inbetween the lines of every single word you use in a sentence now and someone can manage to take an insult or some sort of offence out of it but I must say there are a lot of people in the media who have such a negative attitude towards black players compared to white players and it really does need answering, I think if you disagree then there is nothing but narrow mindedness.[/quote


there have been loads of white players hounded and treated unfairly by the press too...and anyone that does not agree is narrow minded..

Not so much whether you agree or disagree , but whether you care. I don't. As I said at the outset, if someone were being harmed or disadvantaged in a significant way I'd be the first to object, but the trivial sensibilities of some people about whether they're getting the right press comments or hearing the odd rude remark doesn't really give me much concern .

I don't know about anyone else, but I now avoid lots of stuff because it's owned and dominated by these neo Puritan political nut cases, and I'd like to hope it doesn't reach a point where people stop watching football because they don't want to be badgered with whacky political dogmas and the latest fake victim trend.

I've got a very high IQ actually

Let me guess, it is very high but you cannot tell us what it is?

You really are Walter Mitty.

I've got a very high IQ actually

Let me guess, it is very high but you cannot tell us what it is?

You really are Walter Mitty.

What a surprise to find you at the back of the crowd trying to get a quick kick in, Dave. No I don't recall my precise IQ number because it's been done numerous times and varies slightly, although it's always within the top 1% if that interests you.
Perhaps I should have done as you have, and included it in my screen name to help me remember .