Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:41 pm
Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:19 pm
Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:35 pm
Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:00 pm
Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:13 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I believe racism is not a problem in football. The problem lay with those who have a vested interest in the race industry talking up the problem so they can either keep their well paid jobs or they can blame others for their own failures.
Finally if someone makes a false allegation of racism then it is about time they were dealt with in the criminal courts. It is similar to women falsely claim rape. Being wrongly tagged as a rapist or racist has devastating consequences for those who are wrongly accused and the public needs to be protected from such spiteful people.
Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:34 pm
Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:46 pm
Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:35 pm
Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:51 pm
GENERAL CHAT wrote:I logged on "this football site " today stupidly expecting that they'd be talking about football.
No. They were banging on about racism again.
Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:59 pm
Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:27 pm
GENERAL CHAT wrote:I logged on "this football site " today stupidly expecting that they'd be talking about football.
No. They were banging on about racism again.
Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:36 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I watched that Debate programme when Sol bamba was on there and you had Danny Murphy talking about calling a player a beast years ago. Ruud Gullit was his fellow pundit and asked Murphy if he's ever described a white player as a beast. Murphy said he no longer uses the word beast anymore for fear of racism.
Lukaku being called lazy was also discussed as wrong because the word lazy is disrespectful to the history of how black people used to be treated. I guess that's the end to us all calling Kenneth Zohore lazy then.
I just think it's going so over the top with us being told what we can and what we can't say. Racism is 100% wrong, but twisting it to say we can't call anyone lazy anymore is ridiculous. We will start running out of words to use because they are finding a way to link so many words we innocently use as being disrespectful to black people now.
The lack of black managers were discussed, although they then went on to reveal Sol Campbell has a history of not interviewing very well. Patrick Vieira and Thierry Henry have had no problems getting managerial jobs. Maybe there just aren't enough black managers up to standard in the UK at the moment?
Why have the Phillipines national team hired Sven Goran Eriksson as their manager? Is Phillipines being racist against its own people employing a white manager, or is it simply because a white manager was the best candidate at the time? Why do other black nations employ white managers for their countries?
There was outrage over no black actors being nominated for the Oscars, despite there being several black Oscar winners in previous years. Maybe there just weren't any good enough black actors throughout that year to warrant getting nominated?
Regarding Raheem Sterling, it's of course 100% wrong what he's had to put up with from those Chelsea fans, but he hasn't done himself any favours over the years gloating about all the money he's earning and the expensive houses, cars etc he's bought. His gloating antagonises the ordinary person (black or white). Raheem Sterling's behaviour over the years has made him unpopular and therefore, an easy target.
However, it seems perfectly acceptable for English people to racially abuse Welsh people and there are instances where black people know they are now in a position of power knowing they can push boundaries and get away with it. There are racism claims which are unreasonable and over the top. In my opinion, these unreasonable false racism claims by black people trying it on, in an attempt to gain further privileges/power is antagonistic to white people and creates further divisions.
Ideally, every black and white person would respect each other and get on with life together in a civil manner. Racism works both ways. It happens to white people as well. The only difference is a white person is scared to say something about it as black people are always considered the victims, and this is what triggers racism in the first place in my opinion.
If we treated each other equally, behave reasonably to each other, respect each other and work together, we could unite together and tackle racism. I don't think playing the victim, playing the system and pushing agendas will ever make racism go away, as this just creates the divisions we currently experience in life, which I think is the cause of racism in the first place.
Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:41 pm
GENERAL CHAT wrote:I logged on "this football site " today stupidly expecting that they'd be talking about football.
No. They were banging on about racism again.
Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:58 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote:GENERAL CHAT wrote:I logged on "this football site " today stupidly expecting that they'd be talking about football.
No. They were banging on about racism again.
Not true though, is it ?
You had to deliberately choose and click on a thing which says " Politics and Race in football "
- doesn't work as a smart arse comment at all !
Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:27 am
GENERAL CHAT wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:GENERAL CHAT wrote:I logged on "this football site " today stupidly expecting that they'd be talking about football.
No. They were banging on about racism again.
Not true though, is it ?
You had to deliberately choose and click on a thing which says " Politics and Race in football "
- doesn't work as a smart arse comment at all !
Sorry, but to some, it seems to be.
Never mind eh.
Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:42 am
SirJimmySchoular wrote:What an intelligent and well expressed series of posts !
It's fantastic and uplifting to know that we've got a few members here with an IQ above room temperature !
Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:58 am
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:45 am
Dave67 wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:What an intelligent and well expressed series of posts !
It's fantastic and uplifting to know that we've got a few members here with an IQ above room temperature !
Room temperature is approx 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
68 on the IQ scale is Mild Mental Retardation. It is a little harsh to say that all but a few on this board attain this level.
I appreciate that this is an IQ Level that you can only dream of, however, maybe intelligence levels in not a subject to which you have much to contribute?
how about that for a smart arse comment?
Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:36 am
Dave67 wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:What an intelligent and well expressed series of posts !
It's fantastic and uplifting to know that we've got a few members here with an IQ above room temperature !
Room temperature is approx 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
68 on the IQ scale is Mild Mental Retardation. It is a little harsh to say that all but a few on this board attain this level.
I appreciate that this is an IQ Level that you can only dream of, however, maybe intelligence levels in not a subject to which you have much to contribute?
how about that for a smart arse comment?
Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:10 am
Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:17 am
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:51 pm
GENERAL CHAT wrote:I logged on "this football site " today stupidly expecting that they'd be talking about football.
No. They were banging on about racism again.
Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:05 pm
City Slicker wrote:Dave67 wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:What an intelligent and well expressed series of posts !
It's fantastic and uplifting to know that we've got a few members here with an IQ above room temperature !
Room temperature is approx 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
68 on the IQ scale is Mild Mental Retardation. It is a little harsh to say that all but a few on this board attain this level.
I appreciate that this is an IQ Level that you can only dream of, however, maybe intelligence levels in not a subject to which you have much to contribute?
how about that for a smart arse comment?
Great response Dave
Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:32 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:City Slicker wrote:Dave67 wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:What an intelligent and well expressed series of posts !
It's fantastic and uplifting to know that we've got a few members here with an IQ above room temperature !
Room temperature is approx 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
68 on the IQ scale is Mild Mental Retardation. It is a little harsh to say that all but a few on this board attain this level.
I appreciate that this is an IQ Level that you can only dream of, however, maybe intelligence levels in not a subject to which you have much to contribute?
how about that for a smart arse comment?
Great response Dave
Agree. A great response to a self opinionated prick of a poster.
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:11 am
City Slicker wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:City Slicker wrote:Dave67 wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:What an intelligent and well expressed series of posts !
It's fantastic and uplifting to know that we've got a few members here with an IQ above room temperature !
Room temperature is approx 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
68 on the IQ scale is Mild Mental Retardation. It is a little harsh to say that all but a few on this board attain this level.
I appreciate that this is an IQ Level that you can only dream of, however, maybe intelligence levels in not a subject to which you have much to contribute?
how about that for a smart arse comment?
Great response Dave
Agree. A great response to a self opinionated prick of a poster.
Too true OGB
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:35 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:City Slicker wrote:Dave67 wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:What an intelligent and well expressed series of posts !
It's fantastic and uplifting to know that we've got a few members here with an IQ above room temperature !
Room temperature is approx 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
68 on the IQ scale is Mild Mental Retardation. It is a little harsh to say that all but a few on this board attain this level.
I appreciate that this is an IQ Level that you can only dream of, however, maybe intelligence levels in not a subject to which you have much to contribute?
how about that for a smart arse comment?
Great response Dave
Agree. A great response to a self opinionated prick of a poster.
Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:10 pm
Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:25 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I watched that Debate programme when Sol bamba was on there and you had Danny Murphy talking about calling a player a beast years ago. Ruud Gullit was his fellow pundit and asked Murphy if he's ever described a white player as a beast. Murphy said he no longer uses the word beast anymore for fear of racism.
Lukaku being called lazy was also discussed as wrong because the word lazy is disrespectful to the history of how black people used to be treated. I guess that's the end to us all calling Kenneth Zohore lazy then.
I just think it's going so over the top with us being told what we can and what we can't say. Racism is 100% wrong, but twisting it to say we can't call anyone lazy anymore is ridiculous. We will start running out of words to use because they are finding a way to link so many words we innocently use as being disrespectful to black people now.
The lack of black managers were discussed, although they then went on to reveal Sol Campbell has a history of not interviewing very well. Patrick Vieira and Thierry Henry have had no problems getting managerial jobs. Maybe there just aren't enough black managers up to standard in the UK at the moment?
Why have the Phillipines national team hired Sven Goran Eriksson as their manager? Is Phillipines being racist against its own people employing a white manager, or is it simply because a white manager was the best candidate at the time? Why do other black nations employ white managers for their countries?
There was outrage over no black actors being nominated for the Oscars, despite there being several black Oscar winners in previous years. Maybe there just weren't any good enough black actors throughout that year to warrant getting nominated?
Regarding Raheem Sterling, it's of course 100% wrong what he's had to put up with from those Chelsea fans, but he hasn't done himself any favours over the years gloating about all the money he's earning and the expensive houses, cars etc he's bought. His gloating antagonises the ordinary person (black or white). Raheem Sterling's behaviour over the years has made him unpopular and therefore, an easy target.
However, it seems perfectly acceptable for English people to racially abuse Welsh people and there are instances where black people know they are now in a position of power knowing they can push boundaries and get away with it. There are racism claims which are unreasonable and over the top. In my opinion, these unreasonable false racism claims by black people trying it on, in an attempt to gain further privileges/power is antagonistic to white people and creates further divisions.
Ideally, every black and white person would respect each other and get on with life together in a civil manner. Racism works both ways. It happens to white people as well. The only difference is a white person is scared to say something about it as black people are always considered the victims, and this is what triggers racism in the first place in my opinion.
If we treated each other equally, behave reasonably to each other, respect each other and work together, we could unite together and tackle racism. I don't think playing the victim, playing the system and pushing agendas will ever make racism go away, as this just creates the divisions we currently experience in life, which I think is the cause of racism in the first place.
Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:54 am
Dave67 wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:What an intelligent and well expressed series of posts !
It's fantastic and uplifting to know that we've got a few members here with an IQ above room temperature !
Room temperature is approx 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
68 on the IQ scale is Mild Mental Retardation. It is a little harsh to say that all but a few on this board attain this level.
I appreciate that this is an IQ Level that you can only dream of, however, maybe intelligence levels in not a subject to which you have much to contribute?
how about that for a smart arse comment?
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:19 am
J-Bluebird wrote:I can’t believe how ignorant people on this thread are. Racism not a problem in football? Two players have been racially abused in the past few weeks and people have to cheek to complain about this issue being talked about? The reason racism has been and still is part of football is because people brush it under the rug and pretend that it doesn’t happen. When it is addressed people are accused of ‘pushing an agenda’ are you people that naive or simply obtuse. No, probably complicit in such vulgar beliefs and ideologies. You’re telling me nobody has ever heard any form of racism at football, I most definately have not attended as many games as probably most on here but I have undoubtably heard racism whilst following Cardiff, be it in the stands and even on coaches attending away games.
And regarding politics I can’t remember Gary Lineker discussing any on tv. If he wishes it discuss it on social media then that’s up to him. The elite and people in power always try to ostracise those talking about politics because they don’t want people like us (working class/joe bloggs) getting involved and voting. I don’t think people realise how dull they sound when they regurgitate such nonsense that is being used against them.