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Postby Forever Blue » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:49 pm

Watford manager Javi Gracia said his side had been taught a "good lesson" after they held off a late Cardiff comeback to seal their first Premier League win since October.

Three fine goals from Gerard Deulofeu, Jose Holebas and Domingos Quinas saw Watford cruise into a comfortable lead, with their opponents proving no match for the Hornets for much of the game.

But with 10 minutes remaining at Vicarage Road, Junior Hoilett pulled back a seeming consolation goal before Bobby Reid added a second to give Cardiff a sniff of an unlikely point.



"The end of the game was different than the most part of it. We dominated the first 70 minutes, we created a lot of chances and we could have got a better victory today," Gracia told BBC Sport.

"Their goalkeeper was amazing. The last part of the game I think was a good lesson for us to know how we have to manage the game.

"The last games we have played well, but today we deserved the win. It is important for the players and supporters. All of them deserve the victory."

Neil Warnock's side would have been dead and buried early on were it not for the acrobatics of goalkeeper Neil Etheridge, who produced a string of stunning saves either side of half-time to keep Cardiff in the game - which marked the first top-flight meeting between these two sides.

Watford looked to have done enough to seal all three points at a canter yet Cardiff's comeback came out of the blue following a performance that lacked any real energy.

"I am disappointed with the individual errors for the goals, but I am pleased with the way we kept going," Warnock told BBC Sport.

"We set ourselves up to be difficult to break down and I cannot legislate for individual errors. We cannot keep playing like this every week and losing - we need to get results away from home."
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Postby davids » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:30 pm

The most frustrating thing is that when we scored at 3-1 we actually started playing and putting them under pressure for the first time in the game and when we scored the second goal they were starting to really panic.

The million dollar question is why the f**k did we wait until 80 minutes had gone and we were 3-0 to start playing in the way we should have been playing from the start?

Much too little. Much too late.

A truly shit performance today by everyone at the club with the exception of the goalkeeper and the fans.
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Postby 2blue2handle » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:06 pm

davids wrote:The most frustrating thing is that when we scored at 3-1 we actually started playing and putting them under pressure for the first time in the game and when we scored the second goal they were starting to really panic.

The million dollar question is why the f**k did we wait until 80 minutes had gone and we were 3-0 to start playing in the way we should have been playing from the start?

Much too little. Much too late.

A truly shit performance today by everyone at the club with the exception of the goalkeeper and the fans.


Warnock keeps saying he wants to stay in games, it's not working away like it can in the championship. We can't be silly and go all attack but we need to offer more going forward.
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Postby SirJimmySchoular » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:35 pm

davids wrote:The most frustrating thing is that when we scored at 3-1 we actually started playing and putting them under pressure for the first time in the game and when we scored the second goal they were starting to really panic.

The million dollar question is why the f**k did we wait until 80 minutes had gone and we were 3-0 to start playing in the way we should have been playing from the start?

Much too little. Much too late.

A truly shit performance today by everyone at the club with the exception of the goalkeeper and the fans.


No it bloody wasn't !
One goal difference isn't MUCH too little either. Absorbing Watfords attacking till they play themselves out is the ONLY way to have a chance of beating them and that should be obvious to any students of the game. The manager pointed out that he can't legislate for individual errors, which did happen here, but the tactics were absolutely correct .
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Postby SirJimmySchoular » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:38 pm

Further to that, if we adopted the ridiculous tactics people suggest here, we'd be getting such F....ng seven goal hidings from comparatively weak teams that we'd be fulfilling Suttons predictions completely
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Postby Bluebird Warrior » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:54 pm

SirJimmySchoular wrote:Further to that, if we adopted the ridiculous tactics people suggest here, we'd be getting such F....ng seven goal hidings from comparatively weak teams that we'd be fulfilling Suttons predictions completely


We'd have gotten a 7 goal hiding against Watford if Etheridge hadn't turned into Manuel Neuer :lol: . The problem is we cant sit and absorb all opposition teams pressure and hope they get warn out as we're not good enough defensively to keep them out and the reason we're making individual errors is because we're having to defend for such long periods of the game and as you know if your constantly defending you get mentally tired and switch off so its inevitable that we're gonna keep making errors if we keep playing the way we're playing away from home. I agree with you that we shouldn't go all out at teams, because as you said we'd be getting hidings every game, but its up to Warnock to find the right solution away from home as its clearly not working.
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Postby pembroke allan » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:01 pm

once we concede we don't have the quality to get out of trouble yes we scored 2 but should been 5-0 before we scored! Putting a player who cannot hold ball up and is not a bona fide forward is not going to work it's that simple
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Postby Bananas » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:17 pm

Bluebird Warrior wrote:
SirJimmySchoular wrote:Further to that, if we adopted the ridiculous tactics people suggest here, we'd be getting such F....ng seven goal hidings from comparatively weak teams that we'd be fulfilling Suttons predictions completely


We'd have gotten a 7 goal hiding against Watford if Etheridge hadn't turned into Manuel Neuer :lol: . The problem is we cant sit and absorb all opposition teams pressure and hope they get warn out as we're not good enough defensively to keep them out and the reason we're making individual errors is because we're having to defend for such long periods of the game and as you know if your constantly defending you get mentally tired and switch off so its inevitable that we're gonna keep making errors if we keep playing the way we're playing away from home. I agree with you that we shouldn't go all out at teams, because as you said we'd be getting hidings every game, but its up to Warnock to find the right solution away from home as its clearly not working.

Unless your a dull American please don't use the word gotten as it's a Fekin Americanism . You have been warned butty.
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Re: Watford manager Javi Gracia said his side had been taugh

Postby pembroke allan » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:30 pm

Bananas wrote:
Bluebird Warrior wrote:
SirJimmySchoular wrote:Further to that, if we adopted the ridiculous tactics people suggest here, we'd be getting such F....ng seven goal hidings from comparatively weak teams that we'd be fulfilling Suttons predictions completely


We'd have gotten a 7 goal hiding against Watford if Etheridge hadn't turned into Manuel Neuer :lol: . The problem is we cant sit and absorb all opposition teams pressure and hope they get warn out as we're not good enough defensively to keep them out and the reason we're making individual errors is because we're having to defend for such long periods of the game and as you know if your constantly defending you get mentally tired and switch off so its inevitable that we're gonna keep making errors if we keep playing the way we're playing away from home. I agree with you that we shouldn't go all out at teams, because as you said we'd be getting hidings every game, but its up to Warnock to find the right solution away from home as its clearly not working.

Unless your a dull American please don't use the word gotten as it's a Fekin Americanism . You have been warned butty.



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