Harry Arter to be called back by Bournemouth?

UPDATED: 20/01/19

Harry Arter
He signed a loan deal until the end of the season, but it is understood Bournemouth have the option to recall and could cash in if permanent offers are forthcoming.



Harry Arter's loan spell at Cardiff may be cut short amid transfer offers

Harry Arter’s loan spell at Cardiff may come to premature end, with a few options now on the table for the Republic of Ireland midfielder in this month's transfer window.

By Kevin Palmer.

The Independent


January 19 2019

Arter has established himself as a firm favourite with Cardiff fans after his loan move from Bournemouth last August, yet it appears the season-long deal that took Arter to Wales may be brought to an end, with parent club Bournemouth considering recalling the 29-year-old.

Meanwhile, Premier League side Watford have expressed an interest in signing Arter, as they weigh up possible replacements for their in-demand midfielder Abdoulaye Doucouré.

Championship promotion hopefuls Aston Villa have also expressed an interest in signing Arter, who has battled to hold Cardiff's midfield together as they have struggled to make the step up in class after promotion from the second tier of English football last season.

Arter missed Cardiff's trip to Newcastle on Saturday and there is now an expectation that he will make a decision on his future in the next few days, with a move away from Cardiff looking likely.

While Arter has enjoyed his time in Cardiff and has relished the chance to play regular first team football after a difficult season on the sidelines at Bournemouth, he may be tempted to make a move that takes him closer to his London home.

Unless Bournemouth decide to bring back a player who is still contracted to the south coast club until the summer of 2021, they may be tempted to cash in on a player who has re-established himself as a regular Premier League performer in the first half of this season.

Cardiff boss Neil Warnock failed to make any reference to a possible move for Arter after his side's 3-0 defeat at Newcastle, as he suggested the midfielder will return to his side for their next match at Arsenal.

"He tweaked his groin and we're not sure what it is," said Warnock, as he explained Arter's absence. "Although you want to play him, with 10 days until the next game you want to make sure you don't aggravate anything.

"We had a chat before the game as he was going to be a substitute, but why risk him coming on? He wasn't sure whether it was an old injury he's had in the past, or a new one. We thought 'let's wait and do some tests on Monday'. Hopefully he'll be ok for the Arsenal game."

Yikes

Can’t happen.

Pure fiction from the media.

Harry Arter and Victor Camarasa do not have recall options in their loans.

Can’t happen.

Pure fiction from the media.

Harry Arter and Victor Camarasa do not have recall options in their loans.

Seen their contracts?

Can’t happen.

Pure fiction from the media.

Harry Arter and Victor Camarasa do not have recall options in their loans.

Seen their contracts?

No, but Warnock surely has and he said this in the press several weeks ago.

Can’t happen.

Pure fiction from the media.

Harry Arter and Victor Camarasa do not have recall options in their loans.

Seen their contracts?

No, but Warnock surely has and he said this in the press several weeks ago.

Just checked and Harry Arter is a Bluebird for the whole season (at least)


From the Bournemouth FC website:

AFC Bournemouth midfielder Harry Arter has joined Cardiff City on a season-long loan.

Arter, who made 16 appearances for the Cherries in all competitions last season, has headed across the Severn Bridge to link up with Neil Warnock’s newly-promoted side.

The 28-year-old Republic of Ireland international has made a total of 255 appearances for Bournemouth in an eight-year spell on the south coast, winning promotion from League One and the Championship during that time.

Under the terms of the loan agreement, Arter will not be eligible for selection when AFC Bournemouth host Cardiff at Vitality Stadium on Saturday, or any other meeting between the clubs in the 2018/19 campaign.


From the Bournemouth Echo:

Harry Arter joins Cardiff on loan - transfer deadline day August 2018 as it happened

Harry Arter has completed a deadline day loan move to Cardiff.

It is believed Arter has favoured the move to Cardiff over an approach from Watford.

The deal is a season-long loan with no recall option. Arter will be not be eligible to feature against his parent club.

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Except they are not recalling him to play for them, they are selling him.

Except they are not recalling him to play for them, they are selling him.

Does not matter what the reason is there is no recall option!

Let’s hope the Bournemouth Echo has got this right! Hopefully we’ll get some further confirmation soon. Missed him big time yesterday

This could actually work in our favour if true. I don't believe it is.

If they are willing to sell. Give them £5mill and sign him permanently and it will free up a new loan signing for us to bring in another midfirlder. We then guarantee him whatever happens end of this season

It would be win win for us as he has already stated he wants to stay

Aston Villa and Watford interested in Cardiff City's Harry Arter who could end loan spell early - reports


By Dominic Booth

Media Wales / 19/01/19

The on-loan Bournemouth midfielder has been a fan favourite at Cardiff City Stadium



The on-loan Bournemouth midfielder has been a fan favourite at Cardiff City Stadium

Aston Villa and Watford could reportedly swoop for Cardiff City midfielder Harry Arter and cut short his loan move from Bournemouth.

That's the latest claim from Irish media, who report that 29-year-old combative midfield star Arter has options on the table this month with the Cherries considering recalling him.

Arter has cemented himself as a fan favourite at Cardiff City Stadium with his tough-tackling style, and his loss was heavily felt during the Bluebirds' 3-0 defeat at Newcastle United.

He signed a loan deal until the end of the season, but it is understood Bournemouth have the option to recall and could cash in if permanent offers are forthcoming.

Hopefully fake news. If we lost him then I think we would be in trouble. His work rate, experience and quality have been huge for us.

Can’t happen.

Pure fiction from the media.

Harry Arter and Victor Camarasa do not have recall options in their loans.

The parent club are within their rights to sell the player in the transfer window despite him being on a season long loan. Arter would have to agree of course but as it stands we have no say in the matter as he is owned by Bournemouth

Got to sign him up permanently great player

Got to sign him up permanently great player

He wants to move closer to his family in London, I doubt he would sign for us even if we were mid table.

Got to sign him up permanently great player

He wants to move closer to his family in London, I doubt he would sign for us even if we were mid table.

He has already said that if we stay in the premier that he would like to sign for us permanently, villa is out as he said that at his age he does not want to play in the championship!

No one outside the two clubs knows exactly what the position is in terms of whether a recall is possible . We certainly cannot rely upon the interpretations of the press or Barack room lawyers.
If true it's an unexpected problem at the worst time, and must be addressed immediately - no doubt it will be. The first thing of course is for the position to be clarified and if it's good news a public statement made. If not then we must either try to buy him or find an urgent replacement - otherwise the other transfer steps taken might be wasted.
We have ten days to reorganise , get new players integrated and go again with a fresh energy. If this is going to be a problem then however inconvenient or expensive ,it must be resolved immediately .

Just a younger version if Bryson. Plenty of energy but not prem quality. I like this type of player but perhaps we can get Drinkwater in.

In an interview Arter said himself if Cardiff stay up he would hope for a permanent deal and stay at Cardiff as he is enjoying it here in Cardiff

There's a no call back in the loan. Warnock said this when signing him

There's a no call back in the loan. Warnock said this when signing him

Yes, but it maybe that Bournemouth are entitled to sell him in the window, no one really knows if this is true or not!

My understanding is there is no recall clause on Harry Arter. That article, written by Kevin Palmer, in the Irish paper everyone is feeding off is complete rubbish.

A centre midfielder being lined up to come in at Cardiff City this coming week.

Just found this

6.6.3 Long Term Loan Transfers – [A Conference National Club may have up to eight (8) Long Term Loan Transfers per season, a maximum of which four (4) must be aged 23 or under on 30 June prior to the start of the Playing Season, and a maximum of four (4) aged over 23 on 30 June prior to the start of the Playing Season. Conference North and Conference South] Clubs may have up to a maximum of four (4) Long Term Loan Transfers of any age during a Playing Season. Long Term Loan Transfers shall be for a full Playing Season; or from any date prior to 31st August to any date between 1st and 31st January; or from any date between 1st and 31st January (the January transfer window) to the end of the Playing Season. A Player on Long Term Loan may not be recalled, except for a goalkeeper or where the Player is to be transferred permanently by the Club (or club) holding his registered contract. A Player other than a goalkeeper so recalled cannot be permitted to play for the Club (or club) holding his registration after such recall until the end of the Playing Season. Players so recalled can only be replaced by a further Long Term Loan with permission from the Company. Long Term Loan Transfers will not count against the number of Short Term Loan Transfers. To extend the period of any long term loan transfer a further National League System Temporary Transfer Form or FA form H3 must be completed and copies sent as directed above. The Competition shall not approve more than two (2) Long Term Loan transfers to or from any one club, including Premier League and Football League Clubs, at any one time

Just found this

6.6.3 Long Term Loan Transfers – [A Conference National Club may have up to eight (8) Long Term Loan Transfers per season, a maximum of which four (4) must be aged 23 or under on 30 June prior to the start of the Playing Season, and a maximum of four (4) aged over 23 on 30 June prior to the start of the Playing Season. Conference North and Conference South] Clubs may have up to a maximum of four (4) Long Term Loan Transfers of any age during a Playing Season. Long Term Loan Transfers shall be for a full Playing Season; or from any date prior to 31st August to any date between 1st and 31st January; or from any date between 1st and 31st January (the January transfer window) to the end of the Playing Season. A Player on Long Term Loan may not be recalled, except for a goalkeeper or where the Player is to be transferred permanently by the Club (or club) holding his registered contract. A Player other than a goalkeeper so recalled cannot be permitted to play for the Club (or club) holding his registration after such recall until the end of the Playing Season. Players so recalled can only be replaced by a further Long Term Loan with permission from the Company. Long Term Loan Transfers will not count against the number of Short Term Loan Transfers. To extend the period of any long term loan transfer a further National League System Temporary Transfer Form or FA form H3 must be completed and copies sent as directed above. The Competition shall not approve more than two (2) Long Term Loan transfers to or from any one club, including Premier League and Football League Clubs, at any one time

He is not going to be recalled from his loan he is going to be sold to another club which is a different matter altogether . Are we now saying that Cardiff city can stop Bournemouth from selling one of its own players in the transfer window.

My understanding is there is no recall clause on Harry Arter. That article, written by Kevin Palmer, in the Irish paper everyone is feeding off is complete rubbish.

A centre midfielder being lined up to come in at Cardiff City this coming week.

As I expect you will be aware, the relevant rule has been printed by Wales Online, although their reading of it is questionable .
As far as my reading of it goes we are safe unless there's a clause ,( which despite what people have said their might be). Sir Niel is a bloody good football manager but he's not a lawyer and who knows how closely he follows the small print in contracts .

However , I can't establish whether this rule , which specifically covers recalls ,even has any relevance in the matter of the patent club selling a player, as opposed to recalling him to play for them. We need clarity because there's a lot of other important stuff going on and this could spoil it.

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Law 53.2.2 in the Football League rules states the following:

"Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window.

"Any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between both Clubs and the Player but can only be completed after the expiry of 28 days and only during a Transfer Window."

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Law 53.2.2 in the Football League rules states the following:

"Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window.

"Any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between both Clubs and the Player but can only be completed after the expiry of 28 days and only during a Transfer Window."

WE ARE NOT IN THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
WE ARE NOT IN THE CONFERENCE.

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Law 53.2.2 in the Football League rules states the following:

"Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window.

"Any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between both Clubs and the Player but can only be completed after the expiry of 28 days and only during a Transfer Window."

WE ARE NOT IN THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
WE ARE NOT IN THE CONFERENCE.

This is the Authority being quoted by Wales Online. Is it inapplicable to us then , ( which wouldn't surprise me), and if so,which rules do apply ?
Unfortunately there's bugger all we can do about it without being privy to the documents and so forth, but it's nonetheless a very interesting question.

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Law 53.2.2 in the Football League rules states the following:

"Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window.

"Any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between both Clubs and the Player but can only be completed after the expiry of 28 days and only during a Transfer Window."

WE ARE NOT IN THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
WE ARE NOT IN THE CONFERENCE.

This is the Authority being quoted by Wales Online. Is it inapplicable to us then , ( which wouldn't surprise me), and if so,which rules do apply ?
Unfortunately there's bugger all we can do about it without being privy to the documents and so forth, but it's nonetheless a very interesting question.

If a ‘No Recall’ option has been put in the only 2 exceptions effective for all leagues are 1) goalkeeper and 2) if the parent club accept a cash transfer during the transfer window

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Law 53.2.2 in the Football League rules states the following:

"Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window.

"Any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between both Clubs and the Player but can only be completed after the expiry of 28 days and only during a Transfer Window."

WE ARE NOT IN THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
WE ARE NOT IN THE CONFERENCE.

This is the Authority being quoted by Wales Online. Is it inapplicable to us then , ( which wouldn't surprise me), and if so,which rules do apply ?
Unfortunately there's bugger all we can do about it without being privy to the documents and so forth, but it's nonetheless a very interesting question.

If a ‘No Recall’ option has been put in the only 2 exceptions effective for all leagues are 1) goalkeeper and 2) if the parent club accept a cash transfer during the transfer window

all leagues..?
so when did this parity happen and do you have the link.?