Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:57 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:57 pm
Capital City Slicker wrote:dogfound wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:dogfound wrote: unlike the EU we are a democracy..
Are you being serious? You cannot be that stupid to believe that
yep its dave IQ 67.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:17 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:23 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:24 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:02 pm
Capital City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:Twisting Tusk's words, the BBC is purely a shill for this shambolic Tory government these days
Didn't twist fact he said those words though did they? The stupidity of the man is underlined by fact he basically said the people (JOE PUBLIC) didn't have a plan when voted out mmm the plan was to get out of EU how do it is up to politicians we elect to sort out.
Voting for something which there wasn't a plan for Voting to make future generations poorer and giving them less opportunities Imagine wanting to f**k over your kids like that. They'll hate you, if you have any, in years to come
Still Cardiff voted overwhelmingly to remain, it's a shame the troglodytes in the valleys and provincial towns which brought us down
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:13 pm
Capital City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:Twisting Tusk's words, the BBC is purely a shill for this shambolic Tory government these days
Didn't twist fact he said those words though did they? The stupidity of the man is underlined by fact he basically said the people (JOE PUBLIC) didn't have a plan when voted out mmm the plan was to get out of EU how do it is up to politicians we elect to sort out.
Voting for something which there wasn't a plan for Voting to make future generations poorer and giving them less opportunities Imagine wanting to f**k over your kids like that. They'll hate you, if you have any, in years to come
Still Cardiff voted overwhelmingly to remain, it's a shame the troglodytes in the valleys and provincial towns which brought us down
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:21 pm
swilsh wrote:I don’t think that people who voted to leave are morons. plenty of reasonable arguments for leaving the EU. The democratic deficit, difficulties of a two speed Europe, wanting to resist further pooling of sovereignty, believing a state should have an independent immigration policy, these are all logical arguments for choosing to leave the EU.
Leaving without a deal is not the same thing. Leaving is a barbaric act of self-harm and those claiming WTO would be better have no logic on their side. WTO terms are a terrible position to be in, and will tie our hands in any negotiations with other states in the future. The rules of Most Favoured Nation status means that we will have little to no leverage if the plums arguing for zero tariff on all imports win.
I reiterate you’re not a moron if you voted to leave. No reasonable person advocated voting for leaving with no deal during the referendum. It was supposed to be “the easiest deal in history” we were supposed to be “holding all the cards”. Arguing that no deal was what was voted for now is blatantly dishonest.
I think we should leave the EU, but there are many ways to do that which doesn’t destroy our economy for years and years to come.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:25 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:Twisting Tusk's words, the BBC is purely a shill for this shambolic Tory government these days
Didn't twist fact he said those words though did they? The stupidity of the man is underlined by fact he basically said the people (JOE PUBLIC) didn't have a plan when voted out mmm the plan was to get out of EU how do it is up to politicians we elect to sort out.
Voting for something which there wasn't a plan for Voting to make future generations poorer and giving them less opportunities Imagine wanting to f**k over your kids like that. They'll hate you, if you have any, in years to come
Still Cardiff voted overwhelmingly to remain, it's a shame the troglodytes in the valleys and provincial towns which brought us down
Hmmmm your highly intelligent so you think! It was a simple vote stay or go planning wasn't an option for anyone even you! As for valleys voting out who gets biggest benefit from EU valleys or Cardiff? Yes it's the valleys so if they wanted out it must say something about the EU for that to happen, as for voters of Cardiff wouldn't boast about it as there're
Casting vote decided to have the gravy train that is the assembly
Ps wonder why you ignored the point that tusk said what he did ? Very roathy trait
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:38 am
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:50 am
dogfound wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:Twisting Tusk's words, the BBC is purely a shill for this shambolic Tory government these days
Didn't twist fact he said those words though did they? The stupidity of the man is underlined by fact he basically said the people (JOE PUBLIC) didn't have a plan when voted out mmm the plan was to get out of EU how do it is up to politicians we elect to sort out.
Voting for something which there wasn't a plan for Voting to make future generations poorer and giving them less opportunities Imagine wanting to f**k over your kids like that. They'll hate you, if you have any, in years to come
Still Cardiff voted overwhelmingly to remain, it's a shame the troglodytes in the valleys and provincial towns which brought us down
Hmmmm your highly intelligent so you think! It was a simple vote stay or go planning wasn't an option for anyone even you! As for valleys voting out who gets biggest benefit from EU valleys or Cardiff? Yes it's the valleys so if they wanted out it must say something about the EU for that to happen, as for voters of Cardiff wouldn't boast about it as there're
Casting vote decided to have the gravy train that is the assembly
Ps wonder why you ignored the point that tusk said what he did ? Very roathy trait
its defo a multi but I don't think Roath.
Dave IQ67 normally can not resist these threads and does love those little cartoon clips but is nowhere and, to cap it ol , city slicker who you can rely on posting a few ...well said Dave. or hear, hear Dave is also not on the thread ???
its a mystery I tell ya
Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:58 am
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:03 am
Capital City Slicker wrote:Twisting Tusk's words, the BBC is purely a shill for this shambolic Tory government these days
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:11 am
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:18 am
Jock wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:Twisting Tusk's words, the BBC is purely a shill for this shambolic Tory government these days
The extremeLeft BBC who have actually confirmed they support remain are Tory Shills, Bwhahahahaha.Chief political analyst Kamal Ahmed sent a memo out to all his underlings saying “Brexit is rubbish” Nick Robinson said after the vote, the BBC didn’t have to be impartial. Perhaps you can tell me which BBC reporters back the Tories or Brexit. Or perhaps you should open your eyes and stop believing what Leftist Filth tell you.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:37 am
Bananas wrote:Wales in a strong Europe or continually shit on by Westminster and it's corrupt cronies?? No choice, WEXIT ASAP soon as possible when this old generation of pathetic voters pop their clogs
#welshandeuropean
#wexit
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:24 am
Capital City Slicker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:Twisting Tusk's words, the BBC is purely a shill for this shambolic Tory government these days
Didn't twist fact he said those words though did they? The stupidity of the man is underlined by fact he basically said the people (JOE PUBLIC) didn't have a plan when voted out mmm the plan was to get out of EU how do it is up to politicians we elect to sort out.
Voting for something which there wasn't a plan for Voting to make future generations poorer and giving them less opportunities Imagine wanting to f**k over your kids like that. They'll hate you, if you have any, in years to come
Still Cardiff voted overwhelmingly to remain, it's a shame the troglodytes in the valleys and provincial towns which brought us down
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:29 am
Bananas wrote:Wales in a strong Europe or continually shit on by Westminster and it's corrupt cronies?? No choice, WEXIT ASAP soon as possible when this old generation of pathetic voters pop their clogs
#welshandeuropean
#wexit
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:43 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:Jock wrote:Capital City Slicker wrote:Twisting Tusk's words, the BBC is purely a shill for this shambolic Tory government these days
The extremeLeft BBC who have actually confirmed they support remain are Tory Shills, Bwhahahahaha.Chief political analyst Kamal Ahmed sent a memo out to all his underlings saying “Brexit is rubbish” Nick Robinson said after the vote, the BBC didn’t have to be impartial. Perhaps you can tell me which BBC reporters back the Tories or Brexit. Or perhaps you should open your eyes and stop believing what Leftist Filth tell you.
The BBC have been anti-Brexit throughout. We still have to pay for their obscene salaries, even those who do not watch it. I have read that there are ways to legally not pay the licence fee, but not sure how this is done, or whether it is actually allowed.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:48 am
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:52 am
Bananas wrote:Wales in a strong Europe or continually shit on by Westminster and it's corrupt cronies?? No choice, WEXIT ASAP soon as possible when this old generation of pathetic voters pop their clogs
#welshandeuropean
#wexit
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:55 am
captbirdseye wrote:The governments own figures have anywhere between 5%-10% drop in growth. We've already lost £800 billion worth of assets that have been transfered out of the UK and that's from sectors (financial) that the treasury and taxes live off.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:09 pm
captbirdseye wrote:People do realise that Tusk is talking about our MPs and not the voting public?
It's actually refreshing to hear him call them out because they've had a ridiculous easy rid so far with the lack of thought and planning put into leaving.
The fact that a lot of Brexiteer MPs need to bring up the bloody war when thing aren't going well says it all really.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:32 pm
Jock wrote:captbirdseye wrote:The governments own figures have anywhere between 5%-10% drop in growth. We've already lost £800 billion worth of assets that have been transfered out of the UK and that's from sectors (financial) that the treasury and taxes live off.
How does the UKs FDI compare with the rest of Europe? The (remainer)Governments own figures also told us a Brexit vote would immediately crash the housing market, crash the economy and cause 500-800,000 job losses.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:36 pm
captbirdseye wrote:Jock wrote:captbirdseye wrote:The governments own figures have anywhere between 5%-10% drop in growth. We've already lost £800 billion worth of assets that have been transfered out of the UK and that's from sectors (financial) that the treasury and taxes live off.
How does the UKs FDI compare with the rest of Europe? The (remainer)Governments own figures also told us a Brexit vote would immediately crash the housing market, crash the economy and cause 500-800,000 job losses.
We haven't left yet and like most have said we don't truly know what will happend but all forecasts point a gloomy picture which people shouldn't just ignore and spout the Dunkirk spirit shite that I see being used more and more these past few months.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:40 pm
jon1959 wrote:captbirdseye wrote:People do realise that Tusk is talking about our MPs and not the voting public?
It's actually refreshing to hear him call them out because they've had a ridiculous easy rid so far with the lack of thought and planning put into leaving.
The fact that a lot of Brexiteer MPs need to bring up the bloody war when thing aren't going well says it all really.
Exactly.
But it's easier to whip up the outrage if you pretend he was insulting 17m voters.
As a comment on Farage, Johnson, Rees-Mogg and friends it is pretty restrained and long overdue.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:52 pm
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:00 pm
Jock wrote:jon1959 wrote:captbirdseye wrote:People do realise that Tusk is talking about our MPs and not the voting public?
It's actually refreshing to hear him call them out because they've had a ridiculous easy rid so far with the lack of thought and planning put into leaving.
The fact that a lot of Brexiteer MPs need to bring up the bloody war when thing aren't going well says it all really.
Exactly.
But it's easier to whip up the outrage if you pretend he was insulting 17m voters.
As a comment on Farage, Johnson, Rees-Mogg and friends it is pretty restrained and long overdue.
So a comment by a Polish politician who trebled his salary when he got his EU gig was long overdue. Truth is Barnier, Junkers, Verhostadt and Tusk despise this country and it’s people, same with Merkel and Macron but the self leathers would rather side with them.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:25 pm
captbirdseye wrote:Jock wrote:captbirdseye wrote:The governments own figures have anywhere between 5%-10% drop in growth. We've already lost £800 billion worth of assets that have been transfered out of the UK and that's from sectors (financial) that the treasury and taxes live off.
How does the UKs FDI compare with the rest of Europe? The (remainer)Governments own figures also told us a Brexit vote would immediately crash the housing market, crash the economy and cause 500-800,000 job losses.
We haven't left yet and like most have said we don't truly know what will happend but all forecasts point a gloomy picture which people shouldn't just ignore and spout the Dunkirk spirit shite that I see being used more and more these past few months.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:53 pm
jon1959 wrote:Jock wrote:jon1959 wrote:captbirdseye wrote:People do realise that Tusk is talking about our MPs and not the voting public?
It's actually refreshing to hear him call them out because they've had a ridiculous easy rid so far with the lack of thought and planning put into leaving.
The fact that a lot of Brexiteer MPs need to bring up the bloody war when thing aren't going well says it all really.
Exactly.
But it's easier to whip up the outrage if you pretend he was insulting 17m voters.
As a comment on Farage, Johnson, Rees-Mogg and friends it is pretty restrained and long overdue.
So a comment by a Polish politician who trebled his salary when he got his EU gig was long overdue. Truth is Barnier, Junkers, Verhostadt and Tusk despise this country and it’s people, same with Merkel and Macron but the self leathers would rather side with them.
I'm not a 'self leather' and I'm not siding with 'them', but I do agree with Tusk's characterisation of the main Leave campaign leaders - and neither his nationality nor his salary changes that.