Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:32 am
Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:59 am
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:16 pm
welshrarebit wrote:If he retires at the end of the season I think he will will go down as one of the finest men to be involved with this fantastic club. He rescued us as we were heading in only one direction. From there he got us promoted against ALL the odds. He has united the fans behind his players and back behind this club. He has clearly earned the respect of Vincent tan who has been able to show us he really is a decent guy despite making one huge error of judgement to say the least. He is fighting to keep us up but always backs his players and the club. He has handled himself with sheer dignity and class throughout all this horrendous time for all. His humanity has shone through for all to see as has his loyalty. If Neil Warnock retires at the end of this season then he will have more than earned it. A giant of a man.
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:37 pm
welshrarebit wrote:If he retires at the end of the season I think he will will go down as one of the finest men to be involved with this fantastic club. He rescued us as we were heading in only one direction. From there he got us promoted against ALL the odds. He has united the fans behind his players and back behind this club. He has clearly earned the respect of Vincent tan who has been able to show us he really is a decent guy despite making one huge error of judgement to say the least. He is fighting to keep us up but always backs his players and the club. He has handled himself with sheer dignity and class throughout all this horrendous time for all. His humanity has shone through for all to see as has his loyalty. If Neil Warnock retires at the end of this season then he will have more than earned it. A giant of a man.
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:37 pm
Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:14 pm
Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:43 pm
Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:55 pm
wez1927 wrote:welshrarebit wrote:If he retires at the end of the season I think he will will go down as one of the finest men to be involved with this fantastic club. He rescued us as we were heading in only one direction. From there he got us promoted against ALL the odds. He has united the fans behind his players and back behind this club. He has clearly earned the respect of Vincent tan who has been able to show us he really is a decent guy despite making one huge error of judgement to say the least. He is fighting to keep us up but always backs his players and the club. He has handled himself with sheer dignity and class throughout all this horrendous time for all. His humanity has shone through for all to see as has his loyalty. If Neil Warnock retires at the end of this season then he will have more than earned it. A giant of a man.
Spot on
Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:06 pm
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:47 pm
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:19 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:36 pm
City Slicker wrote:welshrarebit wrote:If he retires at the end of the season I think he will will go down as one of the finest men to be involved with this fantastic club. He rescued us as we were heading in only one direction. From there he got us promoted against ALL the odds. He has united the fans behind his players and back behind this club. He has clearly earned the respect of Vincent tan who has been able to show us he really is a decent guy despite making one huge error of judgement to say the least. He is fighting to keep us up but always backs his players and the club. He has handled himself with sheer dignity and class throughout all this horrendous time for all. His humanity has shone through for all to see as has his loyalty. If Neil Warnock retires at the end of this season then he will have more than earned it. A giant of a man.
Absolutely spot on!
Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:18 pm
Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:45 pm
Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:20 am
Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:24 am
dogfound wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
should write a book.
the fictional adventures of Russel Slade. forget the reality and facts.
could have a paragraph each for all the clubs he has stabilised , emptied their grounds and got sacked from .
be a bit like war and peace .
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:38 am
Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:44 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
The only two things you managed to get right was Slade’s fotball Was abysmal and Neil Warnock coming in and getting it right. As for the wage bill, it was actually reduced when Ole was here. But you can’t give him credit for that. Wage structure wasn’t his job. We still have 40 players on our books.. And so we should.
Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:25 pm
Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
The only two things you managed to get right was Slade’s fotball Was abysmal and Neil Warnock coming in and getting it right. As for the wage bill, it was actually reduced when Ole was here. But you can’t give him credit for that. Wage structure wasn’t his job. We still have 40 players on our books.. And so we should.
Yeah OGS was amazing wasnt he so good we had to pay his players to leave. And we have around 26 players at the club right now with the others out on loan. OGS had 40 players at the club, im sure half of them didnt meet each other till October followed by the fact he changed his team every week, sold the spine of the team and decided playing Adam le Fondre on the wing was a tactical masterclass Slade came in at a difficult time reduced the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive, he did the job he was brought in to do and mop up the mess OGS and to an extent Malky had left us in. But i do agree the football was shocking and i was glad when he finally left. Who knows though, if we'd bypassed Slade and Trollope we could have been in the prem eariler.
Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:19 pm
dogfound wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
should write a book.
the fictional adventures of Russel Slade. forget the reality and facts.
could have a paragraph each for all the clubs he has stabilised , emptied their grounds and got sacked from .
be a bit like war and peace .
Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:45 pm
Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:58 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
The only two things you managed to get right was Slade’s fotball Was abysmal and Neil Warnock coming in and getting it right. As for the wage bill, it was actually reduced when Ole was here. But you can’t give him credit for that. Wage structure wasn’t his job. We still have 40 players on our books.. And so we should.
Yeah OGS was amazing wasnt he so good we had to pay his players to leave. And we have around 26 players at the club right now with the others out on loan. OGS had 40 players at the club, im sure half of them didnt meet each other till October followed by the fact he changed his team every week, sold the spine of the team and decided playing Adam le Fondre on the wing was a tactical masterclass Slade came in at a difficult time reduced the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive, he did the job he was brought in to do and mop up the mess OGS and to an extent Malky had left us in. But i do agree the football was shocking and i was glad when he finally left. Who knows though, if we'd bypassed Slade and Trollope we could have been in the prem eariler.
Why do you count under 23 players with one manager and not the other? And actually. Players payed from their own pocket to get away from the club when Slade came in. The wage structure at the club had nothing to do with Ole. And I think there where one more player at the club when he left than when he came. He sure went overboard with that signing.. Adam Leviine as a wing? Only remember him playing inside forward. Go figure..
Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:20 pm
angelis1949 wrote:I hope he goes asap we need a younger manager with a modern mindset who will bring back football to the club instead of the hoof ball style of football fans have had to endure under Warnock
Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:47 pm
Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
The only two things you managed to get right was Slade’s fotball Was abysmal and Neil Warnock coming in and getting it right. As for the wage bill, it was actually reduced when Ole was here. But you can’t give him credit for that. Wage structure wasn’t his job. We still have 40 players on our books.. And so we should.
Yeah OGS was amazing wasnt he so good we had to pay his players to leave. And we have around 26 players at the club right now with the others out on loan. OGS had 40 players at the club, im sure half of them didnt meet each other till October followed by the fact he changed his team every week, sold the spine of the team and decided playing Adam le Fondre on the wing was a tactical masterclass Slade came in at a difficult time reduced the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive, he did the job he was brought in to do and mop up the mess OGS and to an extent Malky had left us in. But i do agree the football was shocking and i was glad when he finally left. Who knows though, if we'd bypassed Slade and Trollope we could have been in the prem eariler.
Why do you count under 23 players with one manager and not the other? And actually. Players payed from their own pocket to get away from the club when Slade came in. The wage structure at the club had nothing to do with Ole. And I think there where one more player at the club when he left than when he came. He sure went overboard with that signing.. Adam Leviine as a wing? Only remember him playing inside forward. Go figure..
I remember seeing Adam Le fondre (who's not an inside forward anyway, he's a poacher) dropping into the LB position against Blackburn all game, it would be like playing Sergio Aguero on the wing At times the furthest player forward in our team was Fabio.
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:21 pm
angelis1949 wrote:I hope he goes asap we need a younger manager with a modern mindset who will bring back football to the club instead of the hoof ball style of football fans have had to endure under Warnock
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:26 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
The only two things you managed to get right was Slade’s fotball Was abysmal and Neil Warnock coming in and getting it right. As for the wage bill, it was actually reduced when Ole was here. But you can’t give him credit for that. Wage structure wasn’t his job. We still have 40 players on our books.. And so we should.
Yeah OGS was amazing wasnt he so good we had to pay his players to leave. And we have around 26 players at the club right now with the others out on loan. OGS had 40 players at the club, im sure half of them didnt meet each other till October followed by the fact he changed his team every week, sold the spine of the team and decided playing Adam le Fondre on the wing was a tactical masterclass Slade came in at a difficult time reduced the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive, he did the job he was brought in to do and mop up the mess OGS and to an extent Malky had left us in. But i do agree the football was shocking and i was glad when he finally left. Who knows though, if we'd bypassed Slade and Trollope we could have been in the prem eariler.
Why do you count under 23 players with one manager and not the other? And actually. Players payed from their own pocket to get away from the club when Slade came in. The wage structure at the club had nothing to do with Ole. And I think there where one more player at the club when he left than when he came. He sure went overboard with that signing.. Adam Leviine as a wing? Only remember him playing inside forward. Go figure..
I remember seeing Adam Le fondre (who's not an inside forward anyway, he's a poacher) dropping into the LB position against Blackburn all game, it would be like playing Sergio Aguero on the wing At times the furthest player forward in our team was Fabio.
So he used the same tactic with us as he does with man utd? Even Lukaku being used that way. And at times the fullbacks are highest on the pitch. Yes, clueless idiot. Btw. Whats the difference with a poacher and inside forward?
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:46 pm
Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
The only two things you managed to get right was Slade’s fotball Was abysmal and Neil Warnock coming in and getting it right. As for the wage bill, it was actually reduced when Ole was here. But you can’t give him credit for that. Wage structure wasn’t his job. We still have 40 players on our books.. And so we should.
Yeah OGS was amazing wasnt he so good we had to pay his players to leave. And we have around 26 players at the club right now with the others out on loan. OGS had 40 players at the club, im sure half of them didnt meet each other till October followed by the fact he changed his team every week, sold the spine of the team and decided playing Adam le Fondre on the wing was a tactical masterclass Slade came in at a difficult time reduced the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive, he did the job he was brought in to do and mop up the mess OGS and to an extent Malky had left us in. But i do agree the football was shocking and i was glad when he finally left. Who knows though, if we'd bypassed Slade and Trollope we could have been in the prem eariler.
Why do you count under 23 players with one manager and not the other? And actually. Players payed from their own pocket to get away from the club when Slade came in. The wage structure at the club had nothing to do with Ole. And I think there where one more player at the club when he left than when he came. He sure went overboard with that signing.. Adam Leviine as a wing? Only remember him playing inside forward. Go figure..
I remember seeing Adam Le fondre (who's not an inside forward anyway, he's a poacher) dropping into the LB position against Blackburn all game, it would be like playing Sergio Aguero on the wing At times the furthest player forward in our team was Fabio.
So he used the same tactic with us as he does with man utd? Even Lukaku being used that way. And at times the fullbacks are highest on the pitch. Yes, clueless idiot. Btw. Whats the difference with a poacher and inside forward?
If you don't know the difference between a poacher and an inside forward this conversation really is pointless. And I never said Full backs shouldn't push up, but when the ball is in your own net (Which happened quite a lot under OGS) The full back shouldn't be standing in the oppositions half. The man was out of his depth at Cardiff and was tactically naïve. But I will give him this, he's clearly learned from his mistakes at Cardiff and he's working with world class players and has a very experienced man in Mike Phelan next to him which im sure is a massive help. Anyway he comes across as a really nice guy and I hope he does well at UTD.
Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:40 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
The only two things you managed to get right was Slade’s fotball Was abysmal and Neil Warnock coming in and getting it right. As for the wage bill, it was actually reduced when Ole was here. But you can’t give him credit for that. Wage structure wasn’t his job. We still have 40 players on our books.. And so we should.
Yeah OGS was amazing wasnt he so good we had to pay his players to leave. And we have around 26 players at the club right now with the others out on loan. OGS had 40 players at the club, im sure half of them didnt meet each other till October followed by the fact he changed his team every week, sold the spine of the team and decided playing Adam le Fondre on the wing was a tactical masterclass Slade came in at a difficult time reduced the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive, he did the job he was brought in to do and mop up the mess OGS and to an extent Malky had left us in. But i do agree the football was shocking and i was glad when he finally left. Who knows though, if we'd bypassed Slade and Trollope we could have been in the prem eariler.
Why do you count under 23 players with one manager and not the other? And actually. Players payed from their own pocket to get away from the club when Slade came in. The wage structure at the club had nothing to do with Ole. And I think there where one more player at the club when he left than when he came. He sure went overboard with that signing.. Adam Leviine as a wing? Only remember him playing inside forward. Go figure..
I remember seeing Adam Le fondre (who's not an inside forward anyway, he's a poacher) dropping into the LB position against Blackburn all game, it would be like playing Sergio Aguero on the wing At times the furthest player forward in our team was Fabio.
So he used the same tactic with us as he does with man utd? Even Lukaku being used that way. And at times the fullbacks are highest on the pitch. Yes, clueless idiot. Btw. Whats the difference with a poacher and inside forward?
If you don't know the difference between a poacher and an inside forward this conversation really is pointless. And I never said Full backs shouldn't push up, but when the ball is in your own net (Which happened quite a lot under OGS) The full back shouldn't be standing in the oppositions half. The man was out of his depth at Cardiff and was tactically naïve. But I will give him this, he's clearly learned from his mistakes at Cardiff and he's working with world class players and has a very experienced man in Mike Phelan next to him which im sure is a massive help. Anyway he comes across as a really nice guy and I hope he does well at UTD.
I know It is pointless, because a poatcher is about space. Not only behind the back line, but also in front of it and around the box. You know, bit like a inside forward? He clearly didn't if he uses the same tactic now. And although their attack is good, he is pretty naive with that shit defence..
Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:55 pm
angelis1949 wrote:I hope he goes asap we need a younger manager with a modern mindset who will bring back football to the club instead of the hoof ball style of football fans have had to endure under Warnock
Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:07 pm
Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird Warrior wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Go on Neil. Enjoy your retirement. The only two trying to bring the fans and club together was Warnock and Solskjaer. Solskjaer was ahead of his time, and Warnock managed rebuild where Slade almost managed to lose all football fans. Brilliant work by Warnock, and with Vinchentos hands tied, the only way was up. If we go down or stay up, I think it's time. And a great opportunity for the club to adapt to the modern game.
For all the flack Slade gets and i wasnt a Slade fan, he effectively had to come in and sort the mess that OGS had created with 40 players on the books, a wage bill which was through the roof, unfit players and was one of the only managers that tried to get us to go back to blue. OGS set us back 3 years which we've only just come through the other side when Warnock came in. Even though Slade's football was abysmal to watch he kept us competitive whilst cutting the wage bill that OGS had sent through the roof.
The only two things you managed to get right was Slade’s fotball Was abysmal and Neil Warnock coming in and getting it right. As for the wage bill, it was actually reduced when Ole was here. But you can’t give him credit for that. Wage structure wasn’t his job. We still have 40 players on our books.. And so we should.
Yeah OGS was amazing wasnt he so good we had to pay his players to leave. And we have around 26 players at the club right now with the others out on loan. OGS had 40 players at the club, im sure half of them didnt meet each other till October followed by the fact he changed his team every week, sold the spine of the team and decided playing Adam le Fondre on the wing was a tactical masterclass Slade came in at a difficult time reduced the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive, he did the job he was brought in to do and mop up the mess OGS and to an extent Malky had left us in. But i do agree the football was shocking and i was glad when he finally left. Who knows though, if we'd bypassed Slade and Trollope we could have been in the prem eariler.
Why do you count under 23 players with one manager and not the other? And actually. Players payed from their own pocket to get away from the club when Slade came in. The wage structure at the club had nothing to do with Ole. And I think there where one more player at the club when he left than when he came. He sure went overboard with that signing.. Adam Leviine as a wing? Only remember him playing inside forward. Go figure..
I remember seeing Adam Le fondre (who's not an inside forward anyway, he's a poacher) dropping into the LB position against Blackburn all game, it would be like playing Sergio Aguero on the wing At times the furthest player forward in our team was Fabio.
So he used the same tactic with us as he does with man utd? Even Lukaku being used that way. And at times the fullbacks are highest on the pitch. Yes, clueless idiot. Btw. Whats the difference with a poacher and inside forward?
If you don't know the difference between a poacher and an inside forward this conversation really is pointless. And I never said Full backs shouldn't push up, but when the ball is in your own net (Which happened quite a lot under OGS) The full back shouldn't be standing in the oppositions half. The man was out of his depth at Cardiff and was tactically naïve. But I will give him this, he's clearly learned from his mistakes at Cardiff and he's working with world class players and has a very experienced man in Mike Phelan next to him which im sure is a massive help. Anyway he comes across as a really nice guy and I hope he does well at UTD.
I know It is pointless, because a poatcher is about space. Not only behind the back line, but also in front of it and around the box. You know, bit like a inside forward? He clearly didn't if he uses the same tactic now. And although their attack is good, he is pretty naive with that shit defence..
Well my definition of a poacher would be players like Aguero, Chopra, Maupay, Aubameyang, Earnshaw, Javier Hernandez and Billy Sharp who have never played as an inside forward. I would consider players like Bale, Salah, Neymar, Josh Murphy, and Hazard to be Inside forwards, but whatever. All i can say is OGS was not a success at Cardiff, we got hammered in most of the games in the prem when he came in, we didnt improve in the championship and brought Slade in mainly to reduce the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive (Even if it was some of the most boring football i've ever seen ) But i was glad when he finally did leave. Anyway its all good now, we're in the prem, we're in blue and we've got a top manager. Have a nice day