Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:27 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:30 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:43 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:45 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:46 pm
BarryWelsh88 wrote:We are acting disgustingly
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:47 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:58 pm
grange_end1927 wrote:Embarrassing, i am sure this would not of come up if the poor lad was alive
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:03 pm
castleblue wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Embarrassing, i am sure this would not of come up if the poor lad was alive
Of course it wouldn't have been an issue as he would have been alive and would have signed the amended contract, then the rest of the FIFA TMS would have taken effect an he would have been deregistered with the French FA, an ITC would have been issued and the FA would have completed the registration process and he would have been a Cardiff player. But it looks like non of that happened and as a result at the time of his death he was still a Nantes player.
Now it's over to Nantes insurance policy and I bet they WILL want the full details behind WHO arranged this flight and were any laws broken.
Squeaky bum time in the McKay house this evening if you ask me.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:04 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:06 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:06 pm
castleblue wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Embarrassing, i am sure this would not of come up if the poor lad was alive
Of course it wouldn't have been an issue as he would have been alive and would have signed the amended contract, then the rest of the FIFA TMS would have taken effect an he would have been deregistered with the French FA, an ITC would have been issued and the FA would have completed the registration process and he would have been a Cardiff player. But it looks like non of that happened and as a result at the time of his death he was still a Nantes player.
Now it's over to Nantes insurance policy and I bet they WILL want the full details behind WHO arranged this flight and were any laws broken.
Squeaky bum time in the McKay house this evening if you ask me.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:15 pm
fred keenor wrote:Mackay and Henderson have a lot to answer for, lets hope when the AAIB interim report is issued the police will then step in.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:16 pm
JulesK wrote:What I find disgusting is Nantes demanding money even before the lad was recovered and before they even locate the pilot so don't talk to me about acting disgustingly.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:18 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:20 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:23 pm
fred keenor wrote:The club must have known about this within days of the transfer as they would have been unformed of the need for Emiliano to sign an ammended contract.
Surely our insurance company would refuse to pay out as he was not our player.
Well done to the club for keeping this discreet during the past month and hopefully the press and Daily Mail will issue an apology.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:24 pm
Daya wrote:fred keenor wrote:Mackay and Henderson have a lot to answer for, lets hope when the AAIB interim report is issued the police will then step in.
Willie has nothing to answer for he was an agent and got the deal done ... f**k all to worry about apart from the Welchers paying up their dues.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:25 pm
AladdinSane wrote:If he's our player we should pay up.
If he's not then we should all stop waving 'Forever a Bluebird' flags around and singing that song about him.
I just wonder where we'd stand if the plane had landed safely then he died in a non-fault car crash on the way from the airport. Would he be our player then?
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:27 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:27 pm
fred keenor wrote:The club must have known about this within days of the transfer as they would have been unformed of the need for Emiliano to sign an ammended contract.
Surely our insurance company would refuse to pay out as he was not our player.
Well done to the club for keeping this discreet during the past month and hopefully the press and Daily Mail will issue an apology.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:29 pm
castleblue wrote:fred keenor wrote:The club must have known about this within days of the transfer as they would have been unformed of the need for Emiliano to sign an ammended contract.
Surely our insurance company would refuse to pay out as he was not our player.
Well done to the club for keeping this discreet during the past month and hopefully the press and Daily Mail will issue an apology.
Cardiff City Insurers would only pick up the risk for a player whilst he is a registered player, he wasn't so the risk is with the insurers of Nantes.
I'm certain Cardiff City knew there was "Issues" with the documentation supplied to the FIFA TMS database, but I absolutely believe that Nantes were as well and those crass bastards were on the phone straight away demanding the money.
No doubt in my mind who the bad guys are here and it's not Cardiff City Football Club, it's owner, Chairman, CEO or Manager.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:29 pm
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:I’ve said before, we made the offer of a commercial flight, McKay advised Emiliano to reject it in favour of him organising a private charter which he then cut costs with. Henderson is also in my mind due an investigation for weaselling out of the flight due to the conditions and then offering another pilot desperate for cash the job so as to keep his payment.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:31 pm
AladdinSane wrote:If he's our player we should pay up.
If he's not then we should all stop waving 'Forever a Bluebird' flags around and singing that song about him.
I just wonder where we'd stand if the plane had landed safely then he died in a non-fault car crash on the way from the airport. Would he be our player then?
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:31 pm
castleblue wrote:fred keenor wrote:The club must have known about this within days of the transfer as they would have been unformed of the need for Emiliano to sign an ammended contract.
Surely our insurance company would refuse to pay out as he was not our player.
Well done to the club for keeping this discreet during the past month and hopefully the press and Daily Mail will issue an apology.
Cardiff City Insurers would only pick up the risk for a player whilst he is a registered player, he wasn't so the risk is with the insurers of Nantes.
I'm certain Cardiff City knew there was "Issues" with the documentation supplied to the FIFA TMS database, but I absolutely believe that Nantes were as well and those crass bastards were on the phone straight away demanding the money.
No doubt in my mind who the bad guys are here and it's not Cardiff City Football Club, it's owner, Chairman, CEO or Manager.
Spot on
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:43 pm
castleblue wrote:fred keenor wrote:I'm certain Cardiff City knew there was "Issues" with the documentation supplied to the FIFA TMS database, but I absolutely believe that Nantes were as well and those crass bastards were on the phone straight away demanding the money.
No doubt in my mind who the bad guys are here and it's not Cardiff City Football Club, it's owner, Chairman, CEO or Manager.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:46 pm
hagleyblue wrote:castleblue wrote:fred keenor wrote:I'm certain Cardiff City knew there was "Issues" with the documentation supplied to the FIFA TMS database, but I absolutely believe that Nantes were as well and those crass bastards were on the phone straight away demanding the money.
No doubt in my mind who the bad guys are here and it's not Cardiff City Football Club, it's owner, Chairman, CEO or Manager.
If we knew there were issues why did we photograph him holding a shirt?
Surely that will go against us if it goes to court as it implies we knew he was our player.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:48 pm
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:54 pm
grange_end1927 wrote:Embarrassing, i am sure this would not of come up if the poor lad was alive
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:55 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Daya wrote:fred keenor wrote:Mackay and Henderson have a lot to answer for, lets hope when the AAIB interim report is issued the police will then step in.
Willie has nothing to answer for he was an agent and got the deal done ... f**k all to worry about apart from the Welchers paying up their dues.
Yes your club would pay 15m for an unregistered player wont they? Especially as your club screwed London's tax payers with peppercorn rent on your athletics stadium.
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:00 pm
hagleyblue wrote:castleblue wrote:fred keenor wrote:I'm certain Cardiff City knew there was "Issues" with the documentation supplied to the FIFA TMS database, but I absolutely believe that Nantes were as well and those crass bastards were on the phone straight away demanding the money.
No doubt in my mind who the bad guys are here and it's not Cardiff City Football Club, it's owner, Chairman, CEO or Manager.
If we knew there were issues why did we photograph him holding a shirt?
Surely that will go against us if it goes to court as it implies we knew he was our player.