Classless

Classless . A young man has died and the club do not want to lose money, now they say he is nothing to do with them, hey you could not make it up, only at Cardiff City

As morbid as it is, this isn’t about the person Emiliano Sala, rather the money he represents. £15m is a lot of money - proven by the fact he’s our record signing by multiples of millions of pounds - and the club have nothing to show for it. Not surprised we’re trying to get out of it.

Thank God for that.Sad as it was its good to see our club is not being run by grief junkies.That's business.No amount of whaling will bring him back.Moving on now is long overdue.

Classless . A young man has died and the club do not want to lose money, now they say he is nothing to do with them, hey you could not make it up, only at Cardiff City

Haven't you heard, it's business mate and how the world works today.

I agree with you.

Classless . A young man has died and the club do not want to lose money, now they say he is nothing to do with them, hey you could not make it up, only at Cardiff City

I have to agree.

Tragic as it maybe and we hand the money over only to find we were not liable so don't get any insurance please don't come on here slagging Mr Tan, Warnock, etc off when they say " sorry but we're£15m short in the transfer budget so wouldn't be buying anyone this window"

All this anger should be directed at the scum bag agents not CCFC.




PS. Don't believe everything you read in a newspaper

Doubt if there is a business in the world who would just hand over £15m if a contract turned out to be incomplete. If they are liable for the fee, then obviously they will have to pay.

Maybe people who think we should pay, could make a gesture themselves with their own savings, say 10%?

If people don't have savings may be a loan to make up a payment of say £5K?

After all, this is £30Million!

Last edited by Bluebina on Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

There has been a lot said about city should pay up. Well lets look at this logically, Sala was due to become a Cardiff City Player, he had not even trained with the squad or played one minute of football and at the point of his death the correct paperwork was not in place therefore in law he would still be a Nantes registered player. No doubt if he had made it back to Cardiff on that fateful night, the following days would have seen the paperwork being sorted correctly and in law he would then have become a fully fledged Cardiff City player.

I have to say the club is totally correct in their actions, why would we give £15M + other costs to third parties when we are not obliged to in law and the fact that we would be getting nothing for the money. The grief we all felt for Sala's loss is not diminished in any way

Classless . A young man has died and the club do not want to lose money, now they say he is nothing to do with them, hey you could not make it up, only at Cardiff City

Maybe people who think we should pay, could make a gesture themselves with their own savings, say 10%?

If people don't have savings may be a loan to make up a payment of say £5K?

After all, this is £30Million!

or we could triple the cost of tickets for ten years, would you be happy with this, show our class?

There has been a lot said about city should pay up. Well lets look at this logically, Sala was due to become a Cardiff City Player, he had not even trained with the squad or played one minute of football and at the point of his death the correct paperwork was not in place therefore in law he would still be a Nantes registered player. No doubt if he had made it back to Cardiff on that fateful night, the following days would have seen the paperwork being sorted correctly and in law he would then have become a fully fledged Cardiff City player.

I have to say the club is totally correct in their actions, why would we give £15M + other costs to third parties when we are not obliged to in law and the fact that we would be getting nothing for the money. The grief we all felt for Sala's loss is not diminished in any way

As sad as it is I have to agree. I guess it comes down to who can claim on insurance. If legally he was still a Nates player then we can't pay the fee as we will never get the insurance money back. If he was legally ours then yes, pay Nates and claim the fee back. SImple!

There has been a lot said about city should pay up. Well lets look at this logically, Sala was due to become a Cardiff City Player, he had not even trained with the squad or played one minute of football and at the point of his death the correct paperwork was not in place therefore in law he would still be a Nantes registered player. No doubt if he had made it back to Cardiff on that fateful night, the following days would have seen the paperwork being sorted correctly and in law he would then have become a fully fledged Cardiff City player.

I have to say the club is totally correct in their actions, why would we give £15M + other costs to third parties when we are not obliged to in law and the fact that we would be getting nothing for the money. The grief we all felt for Sala's loss is not diminished in any way

he was on his way to train the following morning , are you suggesting its open training for all comers ?
he was registered by FIFA on the 21st January. his premier league registration had been sent back but to even have it considered he would have to be a CCFC player...or is that also open and we can sign all sorts to play in the prem who are not CCFC players...

Classless . A young man has died and the club do not want to lose money, now they say he is nothing to do with them, hey you could not make it up, only at Cardiff City

Haven't you heard, it's business mate and how the world works today.

I agree with you.

The mafia say the same thing

Classless . A young man has died and the club do not want to lose money, now they say he is nothing to do with them, hey you could not make it up, only at Cardiff City

Maybe people who think we should pay, could make a gesture themselves with their own savings, say 10%?

If people don't have savings may be a loan to make up a payment of say £5K?

After all, this is £30Million!

or we could triple the cost of tickets for ten years, would you be happy with this, show our class?

hows about the person directly responsible for the biggest financial mistake in the clubs history pays it.?

Classless . A young man has died and the club do not want to lose money, now they say he is nothing to do with them, hey you could not make it up, only at Cardiff City

Maybe people who think we should pay, could make a gesture themselves with their own savings, say 10%?

If people don't have savings may be a loan to make up a payment of say £5K?

After all, this is £30Million!

or we could triple the cost of tickets for ten years, would you be happy with this, show our class?

hows about the person directly responsible for the biggest financial mistake in the clubs history pays it.?

Who was that?

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

Classless . A young man has died and the club do not want to lose money, now they say he is nothing to do with them, hey you could not make it up, only at Cardiff City

Maybe people who think we should pay, could make a gesture themselves with their own savings, say 10%?

If people don't have savings may be a loan to make up a payment of say £5K?

After all, this is £30Million!

or we could triple the cost of tickets for ten years, would you be happy with this, show our class?

hows about the person directly responsible for the biggest financial mistake in the clubs history pays it.?

Who was that?

whoevers job it was to sort insurance

that's what its all about..

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

your suggesting a dead person is in breach of contract for not turning up for work..

yes see how that works.

Classless . A young man has died and the club do not want to lose money, now they say he is nothing to do with them, hey you could not make it up, only at Cardiff City

Maybe people who think we should pay, could make a gesture themselves with their own savings, say 10%?

If people don't have savings may be a loan to make up a payment of say £5K?

After all, this is £30Million!

or we could triple the cost of tickets for ten years, would you be happy with this, show our class?

hows about the person directly responsible for the biggest financial mistake in the clubs history pays it.?

Who was that?

whoevers job it was to sort insurance

that's what its all about..

Who is that???

If he wasn't our player we couldn't claim anyway?

If you insure your house when you exchange of contracts and it burns down before you completed on it (legally owned it, you can't claim because it's not your house)

The person selling the house would need to claim on his insurance or find the cash.


That's the problem none of us has a clue on the finer details, although we can debate it none of us knows the full exact and accurate details of the situation, they will all come out in court over the next 5 years or so!!

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

your suggesting a dead person is in breach of contract for not turning up for work..

yes see how that works.

Wind up merchant not even a one year old can say ameliano was at fault ?

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

your suggesting a dead person is in breach of contract for not turning up for work..

yes see how that works.

It's not simple if we turn up for work we are paid, if we die and can't go to work we won't get paid?

The estate would have to claim on any life assurance either from my company or personal cover is taken out to protect the family, it's not always down to the employer.

In this case, I don't think he had any children or a wife that was financially dependant on him anyway?

I am not sure we owe any wages, but who knows, we don't have all the exact details of the contract, so to argue either way is pointless?

if we owe the money we will pay it of course and if we don't we won't !!

I do believe that insurance or not, we will be fair to the family, which would be a nice thing to do.

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

your suggesting a dead person is in breach of contract for not turning up for work..

yes see how that works.

Wind up merchant not even a one year old can say ameliano was at fault ?

I don't think he is on a wind up. over a thousand posts.?

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

your suggesting a dead person is in breach of contract for not turning up for work..

yes see how that works.

It's not simple if we turn up for work we are paid, if we die and can't go to work we won't get paid?

The estate would have to claim on any life assurance either from my company or personal cover is taken out to protect the family, it's not always down to the employer.

In this case, I don't think he had any children or a wife that was financially dependant on him anyway?

I am not sure we owe any wages, but who knows, we don't have all the exact details of the contract, so to argue either way is pointless?

if we owe the money we will pay it of course and if we don't we won't !!

I do believe that insurance or not, we will be fair to the family, which would be a nice thing to do.

Edit, I've just reread the above post, I was saying we may not have to pay future wages, as normally covered by Insurance. I don't agree we could sue the estate, because he couldn't turn up for work, that makes no sense. Apologies for any confusion.

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

your suggesting a dead person is in breach of contract for not turning up for work..

yes see how that works.

It's not simple if we turn up for work we are paid, if we die and can't go to work we won't get paid?

The estate would have to claim on any life assurance either from my company or personal cover is taken out to protect the family, it's not always down to the employer.

In this case, I don't think he had any children or a wife that was financially dependant on him anyway?

I am not sure we owe any wages, but who knows, we don't have all the exact details of the contract, so to argue either way is pointless?

if we owe the money we will pay it of course and if we don't we won't !!

I do believe that insurance or not, we will be fair to the family, which would be a nice thing to do.

going purely on what ES mother said regarding our club not looking after him..
it does seem like its Cardiff City they have in their sights..
I don't see that myself but this bloke successfully argued that 30k Liverpool fans many drunk without tickets had absolutely nothing to do with the crush at Hillsborough.

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

your suggesting a dead person is in breach of contract for not turning up for work..

yes see how that works.

It's not simple if we turn up for work we are paid, if we die and can't go to work we won't get paid?

The estate would have to claim on any life assurance either from my company or personal cover is taken out to protect the family, it's not always down to the employer.

In this case, I don't think he had any children or a wife that was financially dependant on him anyway?

I am not sure we owe any wages, but who knows, we don't have all the exact details of the contract, so to argue either way is pointless?

if we owe the money we will pay it of course and if we don't we won't !!

I do believe that insurance or not, we will be fair to the family, which would be a nice thing to do.

going purely on what ES mother said regarding our club not looking after him..
it does seem like its Cardiff City they have in their sights..
I don't see that myself but this bloke successfully argued that 30k Liverpool fans many drunk without tickets had absolutely nothing to do with the crush at Hillsborough.

He is a top QC, but I don't think the club has done anything wrong, it looks to me that they are after whoever they can find negligent, so of the list of people involved, we should be under the least scrutiny!!!

Time will tell, Annis is right, this will go on for years, probably longer and more drawn out than Brexit !!!

Maybe people who think we should pay, could make a gesture themselves with their own savings, say 10%?

If people don't have savings may be a loan to make up a payment of say £5K?

After all, this is £30Million!

Exactly. It’s wasn’t Cardiff city’s fault he died, if anything it was Sala himself and his dodgy agent arranging a dodgy flight at the height of winter at night with a pilot who wasn’t fit or licences to fly.....

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

your suggesting a dead person is in breach of contract for not turning up for work..

yes see how that works.

It's not simple if we turn up for work we are paid, if we die and can't go to work we won't get paid?

The estate would have to claim on any life assurance either from my company or personal cover is taken out to protect the family, it's not always down to the employer.

In this case, I don't think he had any children or a wife that was financially dependant on him anyway?

I am not sure we owe any wages, but who knows, we don't have all the exact details of the contract, so to argue either way is pointless?

if we owe the money we will pay it of course and if we don't we won't !!

I do believe that insurance or not, we will be fair to the family, which would be a nice thing to do.

going purely on what ES mother said regarding our club not looking after him..
it does seem like its Cardiff City they have in their sights..
I don't see that myself but this bloke successfully argued that 30k Liverpool fans many drunk without tickets had absolutely nothing to do with the crush at Hillsborough.

He is a top QC, but I don't think the club has done anything wrong, it looks to me that they are after whoever they can find negligent, so of the list of people involved, we should be under the least scrutiny!!!

Time will tell, Annis is right, this will go on for years, probably longer and more drawn out than Brexit !!!

I hope not like Brexit

It cannot be £30 million due.
£15 million was the agreed fee (if all paperwork and his registration was in order) if then signed by Sala. It seems it wasn't.

The other £15 million seems to be about his wages. But the issue here is he did not fulfil his contractual obligations.

He was contracted to play for Cardiff City (as an employee), but he did not attend one training session, never mind play for the club. He is therefore in breach of any contract (he may have signed, that is legally binding).

IF the transfer was complete (seems it wasn't) then Sala is in breach of his contract and his estate could be sued for compensation. He did not once turn up for work.

It may be that for once Tan could be in the right here by not paying up.

your suggesting a dead person is in breach of contract for not turning up for work..

yes see how that works.

It's not simple if we turn up for work we are paid, if we die and can't go to work we won't get paid?

The estate would have to claim on any life assurance either from my company or personal cover is taken out to protect the family, it's not always down to the employer.

In this case, I don't think he had any children or a wife that was financially dependant on him anyway?

I am not sure we owe any wages, but who knows, we don't have all the exact details of the contract, so to argue either way is pointless?

if we owe the money we will pay it of course and if we don't we won't !!

I do believe that insurance or not, we will be fair to the family, which would be a nice thing to do.

going purely on what ES mother said regarding our club not looking after him..
it does seem like its Cardiff City they have in their sights..
I don't see that myself but this bloke successfully argued that 30k Liverpool fans many drunk without tickets had absolutely nothing to do with the crush at Hillsborough.

He is a top QC, but I don't think the club has done anything wrong, it looks to me that they are after whoever they can find negligent, so of the list of people involved, we should be under the least scrutiny!!!

Time will tell, Annis is right, this will go on for years, probably longer and more drawn out than Brexit !!!

I hope not like Brexit

true its got that feel about it though, complicated and polarised views from Nantes, Cardiff, Agents, The Family, The Flight people, now FIFA, The Premier League, the Welsh FA, the Law Firms, and even the fans are arguing over who was at fault and who should pay!!!

If we did have the correct insurance do anyone think that insurance company would pay out if the player wasn't legally ours? Not for a minute.