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It evens out over the season..... Does it? Really?

Postby Woodville Willie » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:44 pm

Today can be best described as a game where before the match, you bite someone’s hand off for a point, but having played it, you justly feel incensed that 3 points aren’t in the bag.

The old adage that say you gain these back over a season just doesn’t apply, because there wasn’t just a single pivotal moment, but 3 or more in a single match!!

“Sometimes it’s just not your day” is another annoying phrase used by pundits. However, to be fair, Graham Souness was absolutely livid (didn’t know he was a City fan!!).

The result stands. It may be enough to tip the balance at the end of the season to stop survival. I’m not exaggerating here. Millions could have been stolen today.

“Money ruins sport” ...... Only if you can’t get it!!
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Postby davids » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:52 pm

We've had the most blatant penalty of the season turned down against Watford and the most offside goal of many seasons go against us today.

Both of those decisions were in home games as well. :o :o

Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?
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Postby hagleyblue » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:02 pm

davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?
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Postby Bakedalasker » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:29 pm

hagleyblue wrote:
davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?


Hardly compared to today. We all except close decisions can go for or against you but blatant as they come today makes a mockery of the league.
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Postby robbo » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:36 pm

Against the so called big boys we get nothing, refs and linesmen are biased against the not so fashionable clubs.
It was the same last time we were in the premiership.
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Postby 2blue2handle » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:38 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
hagleyblue wrote:
davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?


Hardly compared to today. We all except close decisions can go for or against you but blatant as they come today makes a mockery of the league.


Totally agree.
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Postby hagleyblue » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:44 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
hagleyblue wrote:
davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?


Hardly compared to today. We all except close decisions can go for or against you but blatant as they come today makes a mockery of the league.


Of course it can be compared. I remember feeling we'd got away with murder when that goal went in for us and if anyone cares to remember, Brighton were absolutely fuming afterwards, just like we were today.

Take those blue tinted glasses off!
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Postby pembroke allan » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:20 pm

No they dont even themselves out for any team as whoever gets bad decision and it costs a point or two do not get those points back they're lost! all teams have decisions go against them The difference today is we were 5 points behind rivals but the decision today meant still 5 points behind but with one game less to play,
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Postby pembroke allan » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:26 pm

hagleyblue wrote:
davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?



That goal was offside but can see why lino missed it! Today was not close to same as 2 Chelsea players were several feet offside so lino had no excuse for not seeing it other than he had chelsea
glasses on or was using a white stick instead of a flag? :o ......
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Postby davids » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:55 pm

hagleyblue wrote:
davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?


That's one then.

We need another to go our way to "even things out" over the season.

What do you think it will be? A highly dubious penalty in our favour against Liverpool? A last minute offside winner at Old Trafford?
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Postby Woodville Willie » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:09 pm

pembroke allan wrote:No they dont even themselves out for any team as whoever gets bad decision and it costs a point or two do not get those points back they're lost! all teams have decisions go against them The difference today is we were 5 points behind rivals but the decision today meant still 5 points behind but with one game less to play,


Spot on, 100%!

That ship has sailed and may cost dearly at the end of the season. Warnock was savage and who wouldn’t be?

I hope people remember this when blame mongers start to throw stones. NW can’t be reproached for his passion and fire.
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Postby BrightBlueFuture » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:49 pm

Many people defend these corrupt referees to the hilt and consistently insist that it's just because we have a bad team that we lose.

What never gets addressed is the alarming frequency in tight games where a "bigger club" than us gets a bizzare decision in their favour.

Let's start, last time in the Prem

1. Vs. Chelsea - Eto'o kicking the ball from Marshall's hands to score.

2. Vs. Man United - Rooney's knee-high kick into one of our players. No red card.

3. Vs Liverpool - 2 players down with injury, no treatment received, ref orders them off - Liverpool score from corner

And more that I can't remember.

This season has been most bizarre for the reluctance for referees to book players who bring down our wingers on a clear counter attack, happened early on today and is a theme of the refereeing week-in week-out to the point where it's absolutely predictable and boring.

One of the most bizarre refereeing performances was the Huddersfield home game in which we ended up benefiting from in the end but he was truly awful for both teams that day.

I don't know what I want to get at here, but VAR has potential to change a lot but refereeing needs to become much more transparent before the "respect the ref/F.A" movement gathers momentum.
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Postby Sam ReaN » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:53 pm

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Postby jimmy_rat » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:03 pm

Don't worry. It'll even itself out in our next game... Oh wait...
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Postby BrightBlueFuture » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:06 pm

Sam ReaN wrote:Yeah for any ordinary ENGLISH club, NOT us.... NOT a WELSH Club


Not even sure it's that, just general corruption against clubs outside the London and Manchester powerhouses.

You ask fans of other clubs outside the "elite" group and they'll say the same
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Postby TopCat CCFC » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:18 pm

The only way it evens it's self out is to get it right from the start .
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Postby dogfound » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:27 pm

your not going to get many of the big decisions against top 6 clubs..its not just us,its how it is.

no doubt the resident ref will be here shortly to say this is not true.
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Postby Llan_Blue » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:03 pm

hagleyblue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
hagleyblue wrote:
davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?


Hardly compared to today. We all except close decisions can go for or against you but blatant as they come today makes a mockery of the league.


Of course it can be compared. I remember feeling we'd got away with murder when that goal went in for us and if anyone cares to remember, Brighton were absolutely fuming afterwards, just like we were today.

Take those blue tinted glasses off!

Did Brighton have FOUR massive wrong decisions go against them then??
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Postby hagleyblue » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:24 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:
hagleyblue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
hagleyblue wrote:
davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?


Hardly compared to today. We all except close decisions can go for or against you but blatant as they come today makes a mockery of the league.


Of course it can be compared. I remember feeling we'd got away with murder when that goal went in for us and if anyone cares to remember, Brighton were absolutely fuming afterwards, just like we were today.

Take those blue tinted glasses off!

Did Brighton have FOUR massive wrong decisions go against them then??


Brighton still lost the game, like we did.
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Postby Colin W » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:16 pm

hagleyblue wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
hagleyblue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
hagleyblue wrote:
davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?


Hardly compared to today. We all except close decisions can go for or against you but blatant as they come today makes a mockery of the league.


Of course it can be compared. I remember feeling we'd got away with murder when that goal went in for us and if anyone cares to remember, Brighton were absolutely fuming afterwards, just like we were today.

Take those blue tinted glasses off!

Did Brighton have FOUR massive wrong decisions go against them then??


Brighton still lost the game, like we did.



Very True!
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Postby pembroke allan » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:36 pm

hagleyblue wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
hagleyblue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
hagleyblue wrote:
davids wrote:Can anyone recall such blatantly wrong vitally important decisions going in our favour this season?


Sol Bamba's goal against Brighton?


Hardly compared to today. We all except close decisions can go for or against you but blatant as they come today makes a mockery of the league.


Of course it can be compared. I remember feeling we'd got away with murder when that goal went in for us and if anyone cares to remember, Brighton were absolutely fuming afterwards, just like we were today.

Take those blue tinted glasses off!

Did Brighton have FOUR massive wrong decisions go against them then??


Brighton still lost the game, like we did.



Ok bamba offside but it was not cut dried for linesman? Also was one incident we had 3 clear and obvious mistakes so could been out sight before they scored! Brigjton have had numorous games to make up for it we got 7 to make up effectively 6 point's (goal difference) instead of 2 points if had won that's a massive difference
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Postby Carpe Diem » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:11 pm

For all 20 teams to have everything even out in terms of points gained / lost over a small sample size of 38 games is nonsense.
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Postby dogfound » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:31 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:For all 20 teams to have everything even out in terms of points gained / lost over a small sample size of 38 games is nonsense.



spot on. its one of those over used incorrect clichés.
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Postby Colin W » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:30 am

Carpe Diem wrote:For all 20 teams to have everything even out in terms of points gained / lost over a small sample size of 38 games is nonsense.

I seem to remember Spurs going for a whole season without being awarded any penalties. Maybe there just weren’t any but I find it hard to believe that a whole season would go by without an infringement in the box.
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Postby actionman » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:26 pm

It doesn’t even out because it depends on importance of game lose three points three games in no problem lose three points three games from end probably relegation
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Postby davids » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:56 pm

Does it f**k!
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Postby TopCat CCFC » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:33 pm

davids wrote:Does it f**k!


Glad you brought this back up . Was thinking about this thread at the time ;)
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Postby jimmy_rat » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:38 pm

If it does were due 6 penalties Vs Liverpool. A win Vs palace from an offside position. A missed red Vs Brighton and he goes on and score the winner. And on last day Vs man united were due EVERY single decision. Then and only then has it evens itself out!!

We've been cunted end of
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Postby Gaynor Straight » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:10 am

If its going to even itself out over the season then were going to win each of the remaining games 1-0 with a penalty in each game.

2 for handball, 2 for fouls on Morrison and 1 for a trip on Niasse that was actually just outside the box and shouldn't have been given.
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Postby pembroke allan » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:57 am

Not sure how it does if you get dodgy decision and it costs you the points those points are lost same if it gives you the points you dont lose them... what is crucial is there is no time to make up the lost points from last two decisions! Unless of course we get same type decisions in next two game? :laughing6:
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