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Penalties

Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:08 am

To me a penalty is awarded when a goalscoring opportunity is denied. There are too many players that use it as an opportunity to gain a goalscoring opportunity!

Yesterday, by the letter of the law that was a pen. But you can clearly see him throw himself to the floor after contact. He was going nowhere purely looking for a penalty. Cheating.

Do the rules need looking at? How would VAR rule it?

Re: Penalties

Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:03 am

I don't think so, foul in the box = pen. Everyone knows that and Morrison was naive.

Re: Penalties

Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:09 am

As much as Salah dived in the end,Morrisson was all over him and gave the ref no option.

Re: Penalties

Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:11 am

jimmy_rat wrote:To me a penalty is awarded when a goalscoring opportunity is denied. There are too many players that use it as an opportunity to gain a goalscoring opportunity!

Yesterday, by the letter of the law that was a pen. But you can clearly see him throw himself to the floor after contact. He was going nowhere purely looking for a penalty. Cheating.

Do the rules need looking at? How would VAR rule it?



by the letter of the law we should have had one at nil nil.
and VAR is just as random and bias as referees it aint going to benefit us.

Re: Penalties

Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:41 am

A foul in the box has always been a penalty. Was an easy decision for the ref yesterday. Sala may have dived, but it was about as blatant a foul as you will see, and Morrison gave the ref little choice other than to point to the spot. Annoying that a tug of the shirt up the other end was not spotted, that was also a foul in the box and a penalty should have been given. May have made a difference, but the better team still won on the day.

Re: Penalties

Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:53 am

dogfound wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:To me a penalty is awarded when a goalscoring opportunity is denied. There are too many players that use it as an opportunity to gain a goalscoring opportunity!

Yesterday, by the letter of the law that was a pen. But you can clearly see him throw himself to the floor after contact. He was going nowhere purely looking for a penalty. Cheating.

Do the rules need looking at? How would VAR rule it?



by the letter of the law we should have had one at nil nil.
and VAR is just as random and bias as referees it aint going to benefit us.



Said same about Var its open to interpretation and can see big teams getting lions share of 50/50 decisions but it will give lesser teams a better chance than present thats for sure

Re: Penalties

Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:13 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:A foul in the box has always been a penalty. Was an easy decision for the ref yesterday. Sala may have dived, but it was about as blatant a foul as you will see, and Morrison gave the ref little choice other than to point to the spot. Annoying that a tug of the shirt up the other end was not spotted, that was also a foul in the box and a penalty should have been given. May have made a difference, but the better team still won on the day.



goals change games especially when they are as important as the game yesterday, who knows they might have equalised within a minute or we miss the pen but it would have given us a better chance...as for them you could see they were getting a bit frustrated even at 1 nil up ,imagine what half an hours worth of being 1 nil down might have been like..

Re: Penalties

Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:26 pm

jimmy_rat wrote:To me a penalty is awarded when a goalscoring opportunity is denied. There are too many players that use it as an opportunity to gain a goalscoring opportunity!

Yesterday, by the letter of the law that was a pen. But you can clearly see him throw himself to the floor after contact. He was going nowhere purely looking for a penalty. Cheating.

Do the rules need looking at? How would VAR rule it?

Totally. I think we there is a need for a radical and fundamental change in the penalty rule. As referees interpretation of what constitutes handball or a fouls seems to have changed over the last few years to favour the attacking side, most sides have now figured out that its far easier to win a penalty than to score from open play. Why bother to put all your effort into trying to breakdown the defence when all you have to do is get the ball into the area and draw a player into making "contact" or hope it hits his hand and the ref gives a penalty. Its going to get far worse next year with VAR and the change in the handball rule. We will get to the point where every other goal will be from a penalty and that cant be good for the game.


Time to look at another form of free kick when there is a foul/handball in the box but the goal is not directly threatened. Short corner with a limit on the number of defenders in the box or something like that.