Swans in a financial mess - offloading Kuqi now!!

"a well run club" - my arse!! With their crowds dwindling due to their boring attempt at playing football they have had to offload one of their high earners..........oh dear, the rot is setting in both on and off the pitch for the inbreds!! Hope they enjoy their 2 cup finals against their capital city (with their country's captain) this season as its probably the last time they will ever play us...........all together now.........


YOOOO JAK BSTRDS!!!!!!!!

but they are debut fee saddles, they run thier club properly and play the best football int he championship

hope the go down and out of buisness

Common business sense. Ship out someone who is costing a lot of money and isn't any good and get someone else in who can do a job. Don't spend what you cannot afford. We did it years ago and look at the mess we got into! We have a squad of 30+ and Rogers wants 25 which includes 3 keepers. So to me it's good that he is getting rid of the deadwood to free up money for players who can do a job for us. Hopefully Pintado and Butler will be off when they are back from injury as well!
In much the same way as Cardiff got rid of a few players in order to be able to fund the part wages of your new recruits.

"a well run club" - my arse!! With their crowds dwindling due to their boring attempt at playing football they have had to offload one of their high earners..........oh dear, the rot is setting in both on and off the pitch for the inbreds!! Hope they enjoy their 2 cup finals against their capital city (with their country's captain) this season as its probably the last time they will ever play us...........all together now.........


YOOOO JAK BSTRDS!!!!!!!!

If they hadn't taken the piss out of us during recent times I'd almost have some sympathy....but they didn't, so f**k 'em!!

Common business sense. Ship out someone who is costing a lot of money and isn't any good and get someone else in who can do a job. Don't spend what you cannot afford. We did it years ago and look at the mess we got into! We have a squad of 30+ and Rogers wants 25 which includes 3 keepers. So to me it's good that he is getting rid of the deadwood to free up money for players who can do a job for us. Hopefully Pintado and Butler will be off when they are back from injury as well!
In much the same way as Cardiff got rid of a few players in order to be able to fund the part wages of your new recruits.

Erm... "dont spend what you cannot afford"??

Why did you buy him in the first place then, and if the reasons for dumping him are mainly
financial, can we assume you are losing money somewhere??

Why did your well run club have a squad of 30+ that you didnt need?

We ADMIT why we have had a clear out. Its because we were in a mess and we had to change
things. We admit that.

Swansea are in trouble, admit it. You DO NOT have the means to maintain a concerted assault
on a play-off/top two position. Now the money is running out you will find your true level in terms
of Club size/support.

Mid table championship side at best

Common business sense. Ship out someone who is costing a lot of money and isn't any good and get someone else in who can do a job. Don't spend what you cannot afford.

All well and good,some noble business sentiments there.

Except, didn't you bring in Kuqi, someone to use your words, "who is costing a lot of money and isn't any good" under your current regime,who loudly profess to be wonderful businessmen? And indeed, Beattie.

We'll gloss over non-payment of rent for the Vetch and your assorted other debts.

When do you Swan's plan on paying the Police then??

When do you Swan's plan on paying the Police then??

They're crowds are so small now they only need 3 special constables!!

Liberty will end up like that Jack leisure centre did. In fighting and sueing between Stadco and Swansea council. Step in Mr Guy property developer is he in talks about the Vetch(Chernobyl) site aswell? Guess

I think it's a discrace...it's US... The Taxpayer they are cheating. If I was more of a Thick, Bitter and Twisted, Inbred Pikey c**t, I would send a letter of complaint to The FA, FIFA, The BBC , and Esther Rantzen etc.

Kuqis crap anyway. Fat and overpaid

Common business sense. Ship out someone who is costing a lot of money and isn't any good and get someone else in who can do a job. Don't spend what you cannot afford.

All well and good,some noble business sentiments there.

Except, didn't you bring in Kuqi, someone to use your words, "who is costing a lot of money and isn't any good" under your current regime,who loudly profess to be wonderful businessmen? And indeed, Beattie.

We'll gloss over non-payment of rent for the Vetch and your assorted other debts.

If you did your homework you would find out that the likes of Kuqi and Beattie were Sousas panic signings and Rogers has seen enough of these 2 to see that they are not the players he wants and indeed nowhere near good enough. He wants players of Sinclairs calibre and to get these in we have to get rid of the likes of Kuqi, Butler Pintado etc and a few more who won't get near the first team.
This rent business is absolute bollocks. As I stated before revenue from each game be it ospreys and the swans goes towards the rent and the books are in order.

How many millions have you got left to pay turd?

with new investors coming in, im sure we will scrape by

If our highest earner was as bad as him, I'd be looking to get shot of him. He's rubbish and it looks like even a club like them can see sense

Common business sense. Ship out someone who is costing a lot of money and isn't any good and get someone else in who can do a job. Don't spend what you cannot afford.

All well and good,some noble business sentiments there.

Except, didn't you bring in Kuqi, someone to use your words, "who is costing a lot of money and isn't any good" under your current regime,who loudly profess to be wonderful businessmen? And indeed, Beattie.

We'll gloss over non-payment of rent for the Vetch and your assorted other debts.

If you did your homework you would find out that the likes of Kuqi and Beattie were Sousas panic signings and Rogers has seen enough of these 2 to see that they are not the players he wants and indeed nowhere near good enough. He wants players of Sinclairs calibre and to get these in we have to get rid of the likes of Kuqi, Butler Pintado etc and a few more who won't get near the first team.
This rent business is absolute bollocks. As I stated before revenue from each game be it ospreys and the swans goes towards the rent and the books are in order.

How many millions have you got left to pay turd?

We still owe millions. We WERE a club in crisis due to gross mismanagement and fraud.

We got lucky (lets be frank)... before The Malaysians came on board we looked doomed.
BUT.... our brand new ground has drawn investors in, mainly because they know we can
fill it. because they know that a Premiership side in Cardiff WILL attract crowds of well
over 30,000, regularly. This is why they are chasing quotes for the extra 8000 seats to
be installed.

Swansea QUITE OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN LIVING BEYOND THEIR MEANS. Not to the extent
that Cardiff City were under the last couple of Chairmen/owners. But your debt is actually
more serious, because you have NO WAY of raising extra income. Even with Premiership
football you'd struggle to average more than about 15,000. There are over 100,000 people
in Neath and Port Talbot, that is a massively important area for Swansea, the ONLY densely
populated areas in Wales outside of Swansea where you could reasonably expect everyone
to follow the jacks. They dont, large numbers support Cardiff, always have always will. So
you have NOTHING to offer investors. Swansea ARE in debt, and we're not just talking pennies
here. But they have done pretty well in keeping those debts under wraps. The confidence of
creditors would sink rapidly once the Cat is out of the bag. But your rapidly approaching some
very choppy water. Same as we did. But the new ground and the POTENTIAL of the clubs support
has got us investors we couldnt really have dreamed of.

Within two seasons, you will be relegated. Any money coming into Wales and Welsh football from
now on wont get past junction 33 of the M4. You know it, I know it. Everybody knows it.

We were MASSIVELY in the shit. Not any more. Paradoxically, the bigger we get, the smaller
Swansea City will get from now on. Give it ten years and you'll have gone the way of Newport

We still owe millions. We WERE a club in crisis due to gross mismanagement and fraud.

We got lucky (lets be frank)... before The Malaysians came on board we looked doomed.
BUT.... our brand new ground has drawn investors in, mainly because they know we can
fill it. because they know that a Premiership side in Cardiff WILL attract crowds of well
over 30,000, regularly. This is why they are chasing quotes for the extra 8000 seats to
be installed.

Swansea QUITE OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN LIVING BEYOND THEIR MEANS. Not to the extent
that Cardiff City were under the last couple of Chairmen/owners. But your debt is actually
more serious, because you have NO WAY of raising extra income. Even with Premiership
football you'd struggle to average more than about 15,000. There are over 100,000 people
in Neath and Port Talbot, that is a massively important area for Swansea, the ONLY densely
populated areas in Wales outside of Swansea where you could reasonably expect everyone
to follow the jacks. They dont, large numbers support Cardiff, always have always will. So
you have NOTHING to offer investors. Swansea ARE in debt, and we're not just talking pennies
here. But they have done pretty well in keeping those debts under wraps. The confidence of
creditors would sink rapidly once the Cat is out of the bag. But your rapidly approaching some
very choppy water. Same as we did. But the new ground and the POTENTIAL of the clubs support
has got us investors we couldnt really have dreamed of.

Within two seasons, you will be relegated. Any money coming into Wales and Welsh football from
now on wont get past junction 33 of the M4. You know it, I know it. Everybody knows it.

We were MASSIVELY in the shit. Not any more. Paradoxically, the bigger we get, the smaller
Swansea City will get from now on. Give it ten years and you'll have gone the way of Newport[/quote]

Great Post Taffy

We still owe millions. We WERE a club in crisis due to gross mismanagement and fraud.

We got lucky (lets be frank)... before The Malaysians came on board we looked doomed.
BUT.... our brand new ground has drawn investors in, mainly because they know we can
fill it. because they know that a Premiership side in Cardiff WILL attract crowds of well
over 30,000, regularly. This is why they are chasing quotes for the extra 8000 seats to
be installed.

Swansea QUITE OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN LIVING BEYOND THEIR MEANS. Not to the extent
that Cardiff City were under the last couple of Chairmen/owners. But your debt is actually
more serious, because you have NO WAY of raising extra income. Even with Premiership
football you'd struggle to average more than about 15,000. There are over 100,000 people
in Neath and Port Talbot, that is a massively important area for Swansea, the ONLY densely
populated areas in Wales outside of Swansea where you could reasonably expect everyone
to follow the jacks. They dont, large numbers support Cardiff, always have always will. So
you have NOTHING to offer investors. Swansea ARE in debt, and we're not just talking pennies
here. But they have done pretty well in keeping those debts under wraps. The confidence of
creditors would sink rapidly once the Cat is out of the bag. But your rapidly approaching some
very choppy water. Same as we did. But the new ground and the POTENTIAL of the clubs support
has got us investors we couldnt really have dreamed of.

Within two seasons, you will be relegated. Any money coming into Wales and Welsh football from
now on wont get past junction 33 of the M4. You know it, I know it. Everybody knows it.

We were MASSIVELY in the shit. Not any more. Paradoxically, the bigger we get, the smaller
Swansea City will get from now on. Give it ten years and you'll have gone the way of Newport

Great Post Taffy [/quote]

Its simple:

Take two corner shops. One has a revamp but in the first two years doesnt see any upsurge
in trade. Now they are scrapping certain lines cos they just havent made a difference.

The other shop has always had a bigger customer base, even when it was in a ramshackle hut.
It also has a revamp. Trade increases by 50%. The new 'lines' are flying off the shelves quicker
than they can stock them. 'Tesco' have bought shares and are redesigning the business in the
Tesco mould.

Erm.... Where would you invest your money

Seriously, Cardiff City in the Premiership will make a massive dent in the saleability of Welsh
Rugby both now and in the future!

Its only just occured to me just how much damage it will cause Swansea City

Congratulations on your promotion and championship crown! Umm.. do you win promotion in September?

So then do you have concrete evidence of Swansea city living beyond their means? Evidence of unmanageable debt? links?
Thought not. Typical Cardiff spin once again. Dai Smith tells Joe Blogs something down the boozer who tells his mate Trevor who tells his mate Bill and before you know it a 'story' appears.

As I stated previously in this thread, revenue from ticket sales from the football and the rugby pays the rent. You are putting 2+2 together and making 5 just because we are getting rid of the deadwood at the club. Rogers wants a smaller squad of quality players not a large squad of average and below average players which cost the club money - cash generated from letting 2 or 3 players go can go towards getting 1 very good player here. Cardiff are now using this business model as the squad is not huge but has a good level of quality about it.

We still owe millions. We WERE a club in crisis due to gross mismanagement and fraud.

We got lucky (lets be frank)... before The Malaysians came on board we looked doomed.
BUT.... our brand new ground has drawn investors in, mainly because they know we can
fill it. because they know that a Premiership side in Cardiff WILL attract crowds of well
over 30,000, regularly. This is why they are chasing quotes for the extra 8000 seats to
be installed.

Swansea QUITE OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN LIVING BEYOND THEIR MEANS. Not to the extent
that Cardiff City were under the last couple of Chairmen/owners. But your debt is actually
more serious, because you have NO WAY of raising extra income. Even with Premiership
football you'd struggle to average more than about 15,000. There are over 100,000 people
in Neath and Port Talbot, that is a massively important area for Swansea, the ONLY densely
populated areas in Wales outside of Swansea where you could reasonably expect everyone
to follow the jacks. They dont, large numbers support Cardiff, always have always will. So
you have NOTHING to offer investors. Swansea ARE in debt, and we're not just talking pennies
here. But they have done pretty well in keeping those debts under wraps. The confidence of
creditors would sink rapidly once the Cat is out of the bag. But your rapidly approaching some
very choppy water. Same as we did. But the new ground and the POTENTIAL of the clubs support
has got us investors we couldnt really have dreamed of.

Within two seasons, you will be relegated. Any money coming into Wales and Welsh football from
now on wont get past junction 33 of the M4. You know it, I know it. Everybody knows it.

We were MASSIVELY in the shit. Not any more. Paradoxically, the bigger we get, the smaller
Swansea City will get from now on. Give it ten years and you'll have gone the way of Newport

Great Post Taffy [/quote]

Now I know you are talking shit!

Seriously if you really are a mortgage advisor, I feel sorry for the poor cunts who have done business with you!

bloo is right on some things.

rogers is getting rid of sousa's shit.

but swansea or the ospreys are not paying any rent, there is any agreement in place that if the crowd is above a certain level then they pay rent. i can't remember the figure of the crowd but i think it is 16,000.

they owe neath port talbot council £4.2m, which they want back.
they have a loan of £2m with a company which has to be repaid.
they owe the police £140,000 and counting, if they do not pay it they cannot play at the liability.
they have other day to day debts which are not being paid on time.
they owe the hmrc (like us). they are currently operating on 1 months arrears at any given time.

but according to Huw (i run my club properly) Jenkins they are debt free.
the only thing the jerks are doing right is not paying stupid transfer fees and wages.

How would Swansea owe Neath Port Talbot council £4.2m?

How would Swansea owe Neath Port Talbot council £4.2m?

did they part fund the stadium???

How would Swansea owe Neath Port Talbot council £4.2m?

did they part fund the stadium???

No. The stadium was paid for by Swansea council through funding raised by the sale of the land in the adjacent retail park.

bloo is right on some things.

rogers is getting rid of sousa's shit.

but swansea or the ospreys are not paying any rent, there is any agreement in place that if the crowd is above a certain level then they pay rent. i can't remember the figure of the crowd but i think it is 16,000.

they owe neath port talbot council £4.2m, which they want back.
they have a loan of £2m with a company which has to be repaid.
they owe the police £140,000 and counting, if they do not pay it they cannot play at the liability.
they have other day to day debts which are not being paid on time.
they owe the hmrc (like us). they are currently operating on 1 months arrears at any given time.

but according to Huw (i run my club properly) Jenkins they are debt free.
the only thing the jerks are doing right is not paying stupid transfer fees and wages.

that attendance threshold may well explain certain things at Swansea then as to why for most games a lot of the away area is sectioned off ?

slight mis judgement by our fellow neath bluebird then
its the ospreys thing must have thrown him off

they owe neath port talbot council £4.2m, which they want back.

How has this come about?

they owe neath port talbot council £4.2m, which they want back.

How has this come about?

npt council loaned them money.

they owe neath port talbot council £4.2m, which they want back.

How has this come about?

npt council loaned them money.

Are NPT considering any court action over this yet?

they owe neath port talbot council £4.2m, which they want back.

How has this come about?

npt council loaned them money.

When did this happen and why would a council from somewhere that the club isn't from loan Swansea money? Doesn't make any sense.

Because it's all bullshit. NPT has nothing to do with anything Swansea related. Swansea Council own the stadium we pay rent along with the Ospreys a percentage from what we make from each game.