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Breaking: NEW: Police probe video of fans allegedly 'mocki

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:31 pm

Breaking: Police probe video of fans allegedly 'mocking tragedy' at south Wales derby
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Re: Breaking: NEW: Police probe video of fans allegedly 'moc

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:37 pm

Police are investigating footage of football fans at the south Wales derby appearing to mock tragedies. Officers are looking into a video appearing to show two Cardiff City fans making obscene gestures in reference to the death of Swansea City fan Terry Coles who was fatally trampled by a horse in 2000.

South Wales Police is also probing allegations of Swansea supporters appearing to mock the deaths of former Bluebirds players Emiliano Sala and Peter Whittingham at Saturday's match in the Swansea.com Stadium. A spokesman for the force said it has been "made aware of incidents shown in footage recorded of supporters at the south Wales derby", adding: "Our investigation into this footage is ongoing."




Cardiff City are in contact with police over the video of fans appearing to mock Mr Coles, which appeared to include horse-riding and throat-slitting gestures. The club are also speaking to the force about reports of tragedy chanting towards Cardiff players and fans at the match.


Mr Coles, a Swansea season ticket holder and father of two, died aged 42 after being trampled to death by a South Yorkshire Police horse in a lane leading to Rotherham United's Millmoor ground before a Third Division Championship match on May 6, 2000. A review by the Independent Police Complaints Commission found there was "a failure of duty" by three officers as horses cantered down a narrow lane filled with supporters.

At the start of this season the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) released guidance on punishments for tragedy chanting, which is when fans sing offensive songs about stadium disasters or the deaths of football figures. The CPS said fans could be stopped from attending matches and tournaments along with bans on travelling to certain areas or being allowed in pubs at game times. Swansea City were approached for comment.
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Re: Breaking: NEW: Police probe video of fans allegedly 'moc

Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:48 pm

Said previous post that it's against law to mimmick something that is construed as tragedy chanting or gestures..... if swans players did similar that could be looked at by efl... and before anyone says it's part of rivalry and club should not say anything is missing point that things like this can and do cause greater problems amongst fans at games.... man u /livpool game had same problem.. its simply not acceptable in this day and age.

Re: Breaking: NEW: Police probe video of fans allegedly 'moc

Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:47 pm

Professional players and managers mocking kids allegedly running into the sea to escape a mob of men should also be investigated.

Re: Breaking: NEW: Police probe video of fans allegedly 'moc

Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:14 am

BluebirdNorth wrote:Professional players and managers mocking kids allegedly running into the sea to escape a mob of men should also be investigated.

At a minimum they should be investigated by the league and receive so form of ban for such unprofessional behaviour.

Re: Breaking: NEW: Police probe video of fans allegedly 'moc

Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:02 am

Whoever those City fans are want to be ashamed. There's no room for mocking a death regardless of who they supported

Re: Breaking: NEW: Police probe video of fans allegedly 'moc

Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:19 am

This type of thing has gone on for as long as I can remember and while undoubtedly distasteful should it be unlawful? and if Plod do want to stamp it out, surely existing “behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace” laws would suffice rather than dreaming up new hate speech laws.

Re: Breaking: NEW: Police probe video of fans allegedly 'moc

Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:40 am

Jock wrote:This type of thing has gone on for as long as I can remember and while undoubtedly distasteful should it be unlawful? and if Plod do want to stamp it out, surely existing “behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace” laws would suffice rather than dreaming up new hate speech laws.




It appears that singing or shouting can be classed as hate crime and gestures are public order offences ...