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GrangeEndStar wrote:It's important I think for people to research VT to understand his mindset and why Cardiff is not his focus and hasn't been for a number of years. And we've seen the results of that.
And again, this is not anti Tan as in terms of our club, all he has to do is change the management structure, bring expertise in and let the board function properly. But if he continues in the same way as he has, he will get precisely the same results. And the big black hole gets deeper and harder to climb out of as there are concerns about him raising funding if certain forecasted scenarios happen.
Here's an extract from the link below, it's worth scanning the link content as it paints a picture of how he operates. And it's not great. And as his football 'bets' have cost him dearly so he wants out and his main focus is now his domestic market, which makes absolute sense.
FOOTBALL PORTFOLIO BETS:
BY 2012, Vincent Tan had retired from Corporate Malaysia, and ventured into Europe's football scene in the ensuring years by acquiring football clubs in the United Kingdom, Sarajevo and in Belgium.
THOSE bets in Europe, proved costly to Vincent Tan, as in less than 11 years, he had lost more than US$600 million of his fortune. READ : Forbes now estimates Vincent Tan Chee Yioun to be worth US$695 million.
MAIN FOCUS IS NOW THE $100BN CASINO INDUSTRY:
TUN Mahathir's, re-emergence as Prime Minister in 2020 seem to be God send for Vincent Tan Chee Yioun on a personal level, while on the business front, it seemed ripe for another run on corporate Malaysia.
https://nuclearmanbursa.blogspot.com/20 ... x.html?m=1
Thu May 16, 2024 9:37 am
Forever Blue wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:It's important I think for people to research VT to understand his mindset and why Cardiff is not his focus and hasn't been for a number of years. And we've seen the results of that.
And again, this is not anti Tan as in terms of our club, all he has to do is change the management structure, bring expertise in and let the board function properly. But if he continues in the same way as he has, he will get precisely the same results. And the big black hole gets deeper and harder to climb out of as there are concerns about him raising funding if certain forecasted scenarios happen.
Here's an extract from the link below, it's worth scanning the link content as it paints a picture of how he operates. And it's not great. And as his football 'bets' have cost him dearly so he wants out and his main focus is now his domestic market, which makes absolute sense.
FOOTBALL PORTFOLIO BETS:
BY 2012, Vincent Tan had retired from Corporate Malaysia, and ventured into Europe's football scene in the ensuring years by acquiring football clubs in the United Kingdom, Sarajevo and in Belgium.
THOSE bets in Europe, proved costly to Vincent Tan, as in less than 11 years, he had lost more than US$600 million of his fortune. READ : Forbes now estimates Vincent Tan Chee Yioun to be worth US$695 million.
MAIN FOCUS IS NOW THE $100BN CASINO INDUSTRY:
TUN Mahathir's, re-emergence as Prime Minister in 2020 seem to be God send for Vincent Tan Chee Yioun on a personal level, while on the business front, it seemed ripe for another run on corporate Malaysia.
https://nuclearmanbursa.blogspot.com/20 ... x.html?m=1
Paul,
What you’ve confirmed with your last 4-5 topics about Tan is:
1. Tan never grows a business, he gets others to get him up their through favours and what many searches show a lot of corruption.
2. All his football dealings have failed.
3. He without doubt wants out at Cardiff, but wants £200mill and won’t budge as he can’t afford more losses.
Thu May 16, 2024 9:48 am
GrangeEndStar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:GrangeEndStar wrote:It's important I think for people to research VT to understand his mindset and why Cardiff is not his focus and hasn't been for a number of years. And we've seen the results of that.
And again, this is not anti Tan as in terms of our club, all he has to do is change the management structure, bring expertise in and let the board function properly. But if he continues in the same way as he has, he will get precisely the same results. And the big black hole gets deeper and harder to climb out of as there are concerns about him raising funding if certain forecasted scenarios happen.
Here's an extract from the link below, it's worth scanning the link content as it paints a picture of how he operates. And it's not great. And as his football 'bets' have cost him dearly so he wants out and his main focus is now his domestic market, which makes absolute sense.
FOOTBALL PORTFOLIO BETS:
BY 2012, Vincent Tan had retired from Corporate Malaysia, and ventured into Europe's football scene in the ensuring years by acquiring football clubs in the United Kingdom, Sarajevo and in Belgium.
THOSE bets in Europe, proved costly to Vincent Tan, as in less than 11 years, he had lost more than US$600 million of his fortune. READ : Forbes now estimates Vincent Tan Chee Yioun to be worth US$695 million.
MAIN FOCUS IS NOW THE $100BN CASINO INDUSTRY:
TUN Mahathir's, re-emergence as Prime Minister in 2020 seem to be God send for Vincent Tan Chee Yioun on a personal level, while on the business front, it seemed ripe for another run on corporate Malaysia.
https://nuclearmanbursa.blogspot.com/20 ... x.html?m=1
Paul,
What you’ve confirmed with your last 4-5 topics about Tan is:
1. Tan never grows a business, he gets others to get him up their through favours and what many searches show a lot of corruption.
2. All his football dealings have failed.
3. He without doubt wants out at Cardiff, but wants £200mill and won’t budge as he can’t afford more losses.
That's just how it is and there are plenty of dark arts in business, that's the way of the world.
My concern is where VT goes from here with us, as we are simply a 'bet' that is costing him significantly.
And as said, only he and he alone can choose to do something to tips the odds in his favour. Which is a simple structural change, appoint expertise and let them and the board execute and get on with it. Or he sells at a loss. Or he part sells and does the former a la Ratclliffe at Man U etc.
He needs to realise that his total control and stubbornness is his weakness. He needs to appoint smart people and let them tell him what he needs to do and just let them get on with it.
This is the only way he's going to ever make even some of his £250M back which actually represents a third of his family business wealth.
And it could happen today if he wanted.
Thu May 16, 2024 9:59 am