" JUST A QUESTION TO EVERYONE ? "

After reading this comment on my facebook and reading myself about how he has been off the pitch up in Scotland, Whats your opinions ?


Gareth CCFC
After reading some reports from jock land, He's suppose to be a social hand grenade just waiting to off. Could be a nightmare ! But got great potential , also reports from up north say we have a transfer kitty of £16 million

COULD GOODWILLIE BE A PROBLEM ? Hmm

After reading this comment on my facebook and reading myself about how he has been off the pitch up in Scotland, Whats your opinions ?


Gareth CCFC
After reading some reports from jock land, He's suppose to be a social hand grenade just waiting to off. Could be a nightmare ! But got great potential , also reports from up north say we have a transfer kitty of £16 million

COULD GOODWILLIE BE A PROBLEM ? Hmm

we have players who mis behave themselves as you fully well know. I believe malky can kick him up his arse

I think a move away from up here could be just what he needs Annis.

depends if malky thinks he can curb it really. are there any examples of him doing this to players at watford?

I think a move away from up here could be just what he needs Annis.

Paul, That usually helps without a doubt

I think a move away from up here could be just what he needs Annis.

Paul, That usually helps without a doubt

He seems to be a bit of a target here, though I don't doubt he's not entirely innocent.

I seem to recall there was an alleged incident of him exposing hmself in a pub or something along those lines, then there was the rape claim which was dropped and now the assault case. I assume that the club will have looked into the case etc and that is why they are going ahead with the deal if a fee can be agreed.

There's no doubt he has talent and potential though.

I think a move away from up here could be just what he needs Annis.

Paul, That usually helps without a doubt

He seems to be a bit of a target here, though I don't doubt he's not entirely innocent.

I seem to recall there was an alleged incident of him exposing hmself in a pub or something along those lines, then there was the rape claim which was dropped and now the assault case. I assume that the club will have looked into the case etc and that is why they are going ahead with the deal if a fee can be agreed.

There's no doubt he has talent and potential though.

Cheers Paul, Everyone deserves another chance in life

I think a move away from up here could be just what he needs Annis.

Paul, That usually helps without a doubt

A leopard never changes it's spots. My fear is that after what for him will be a big transfer and higher wages he will think he had hit the big time when it comes to his off the field behaviour. After what happened with some of our players last season can we really take the chance on him?

why take the chance? ... i`d leave him be ..... 3 times that boy as hit the news up there not once! ... and rape is a massive thing to have hanging over him.

Ive got every faith he'll be fine down here under Malky's man management skills

I think a move away from up here could be just what he needs Annis.

Paul, That usually helps without a doubt

A leopard never changes it's spots. My fear is that after what for him will be a big transfer and higher wages he will think he had hit the big time when it comes to his off the field behaviour. After what happened with some of our players last season can we really take the chance on him?

Well this will then be down to Malky and himself to hopefully make sure he has sorted himself out, I really hope he has, because Cardiff is a Village, when players misbehave.

I think a move away from up here could be just what he needs Annis.

Paul, That usually helps without a doubt

He seems to be a bit of a target here, though I don't doubt he's not entirely innocent.

I seem to recall there was an alleged incident of him exposing hmself in a pub or something along those lines, then there was the rape claim which was dropped and now the assault case. I assume that the club will have looked into the case etc and that is why they are going ahead with the deal if a fee can be agreed.

There's no doubt he has talent and potential though.

The rape claim hasn't been dropped, unless someone can find a link which shows it has. I couldn't find one yesterday. The case is still waiting to come to court, thouhgh as far as can see no court date has been set.

He is of course innocent until proved guilty on both the current charges against him and it is perfectly correct for him to carry on his career.

My only concern i that if he is found guilty particularly of the rape then we could be spending a lot of cash for us on someone who could face several years in jail.

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He sounds like a very exciting player but also a very big risk.

I'm not sure if it's a risk worth taking tbh.

He seems to be a bit of a target here, though I don't doubt he's not entirely innocent.

I seem to recall there was an alleged incident of him exposing hmself in a pub or something along those lines, then there was the rape claim which was dropped and now the assault case. I assume that the club will have looked into the case etc and that is why they are going ahead with the deal if a fee can be agreed.

There's no doubt he has talent and potential though.[/quote]

The rape claim hasn't been dropped, unless someone can find a link whcih shows it has. I couldn't find one yesterday. The case is still waiting to come to court, thouhgh as far as can see no court date has been set.

He is of course innocent until proved guilty on both thecurren charges agaianst him and it is of course perfectly correct for him to carry on his career.

My only concern i that if he is found guilty particularly of the rape then we could be spending a lot of cash for us on someone who could face several years in jail.[/quote]

Could CCFC insure against him getting convicted ?

A risk worth taking imo, we wont get better for the money.

Weve all been bad willies at one time or another , but lets not forget hes not guilty of any charges under the judicial system so no probs in signing asa far as i see. New environment would see the lad grow up and mature, further more all potential transfer targets are surely vetted not just for their footballing skills but also their personalities and character too. Malky will no doubt know all about the lad so we back his judgement on all transfer targets

He may be a bit of a loose cannon, but at least Malky is managing him and not DJ.

MM will know how to manage him, i got no concerns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At first this concerned me a lot.

But with Malky I feel quite relaxed about it, in fact quite excited that we could have a very good player on our books very soon.

My only concern i that if he is found guilty particularly of the rape then we could be spending a lot of cash for us on someone who could face several years in jail.

I would expect there will be a clause in his contract that it will be terminated if he is found guilty.

The rape claim hasn't been dropped, unless someone can find a link which shows it has. I couldn't find one yesterday. The case is still waiting to come to court, thouhgh as far as can see no court date has been set.

He is of course innocent until proved guilty on both the current charges against him and it is perfectly correct for him to carry on his career.

My only concern i that if he is found guilty particularly of the rape then we could be spending a lot of cash for us on someone who could face several years in jail.

I couldn't find one either, I took someone's word for it that the rape had been dropped and he was only on the assault charges so apologies if that is wrong.

Weve all been bad willies at one time or another , but lets not forget hes not guilty of any charges under the judicial system so no probs in signing asa far as i see. New environment would see the lad grow up and mature, further more all potential transfer targets are surely vetted not just for their footballing skills but also their personalities and character too. Malky will no doubt know all about the lad so we back his judgement on all transfer targets

Surely it's not just all about whether the courts find him guilty. Even if he is found not guilty on all charges in court the fact remains that he was involved in a few unsavoury off the field incidents and just because he may move from Scotland to Wales there is no reason to believe that his behaviour will change. After what happened with some of our players last season I'm not convinced it is worth taking the risk. As for Malky knowing all about him, why do you assume this? Just because they are both Scottish? Malky has lived and played in England for years so has probably had no contact with Goodwillie ever until now. All he would know about him is as a player on the field. He would know nothing about his attitude and behaviour away from the club.

My only concern i that if he is found guilty particularly of the rape then we could be spending a lot of cash for us on someone who could face several years in jail.

I would expect there will be a clause in his contract that it will be terminated if he is found guilty.

True

But we wouldn't get the £2 million ( or whatever we pay) back!!!!

Weve all been bad willies at one time or another , but lets not forget hes not guilty of any charges under the judicial system so no probs in signing asa far as i see. New environment would see the lad grow up and mature, further more all potential transfer targets are surely vetted not just for their footballing skills but also their personalities and character too. Malky will no doubt know all about the lad so we back his judgement on all transfer targets

Surely it's not just all about whether the courts find him guilty. Even if he is found not guilty on all charges in court the fact remains that he was involved in a few unsavoury off the field incidents and just because he may move from Scotland to Wales there is no reason to believe that his behaviour will change. After what happened with some of our players last season I'm not convinced it is worth taking the risk. As for Malky knowing all about him, why do you assume this? Just because they are both Scottish? Malky has lived and played in England for years so has probably had no contact with Goodwillie ever until now. All he would know about him is as a player on the field. He would know nothing about his attitude and behaviour away from the club.

Sorry mate, everyone in Scotland knows each other - ask Nuclearblue, it's true.

He will be found Not Guilty. I can guarantee that. I know for a fact he will not be prosecuted.

Taking out a 6 ft 5 Rugby player and least he's not going to be rolling around the pitch.

So it looks like he will be a Big Gamble.

So it looks like he will be a Big Gamble.

Yep

Cheers Paul, Everyone deserves another chance in life

Or 3 in the case of DJ