The Echo And CCFC let this Forum take the Rap

Reading the Echo this Morning and even though the Echo ran the story of the Drinking incident before the Middlesbrough game, after a few words from Michael Chopra in the Echo yesterday and obviously if he says its not true then we must all believe him.
They printed this Morning everything that attacks this message board but printed nothing that incriminates themselves which is disgusting as they made it a massive story. They have also printed that it was down to us that Chopra left , but do they know the truth that it was the Malaysians that got rid of him and he wanted to stay.

Cardiff City Football Club despite knowing the truth are happy to let this forum take the blame, why are they not publicly stating that this story was in fact true. They have not denied the story in any way and Dave Jones actually admitted there guilt when he said they will be punished in a manner the City supporters would expect. All these players have now left so why aren't the Club telling the truth.

It takes a narrow mind not to way up the evidence , yes this Forum broke the story first but then the Echo reported it. Dave Jones admitted it was true,They have all now left the Club but a certain Michael Chopra tells his side of which he is entitled to do, and everyone believes him!!.

Why does the Club stay silent on this ? and let the Fans take the blame for !! (A) the Players pissing it up and (B) why Chopra left the Club ?. But hey what has the truth got to do with it.

The Echo, CCFC hang your heads in shame you know the truth but why are you keeping quiet. I know a few people who know Steve Borley, Gethin Jenkins , TG, ETC why are they not asking these people WHY ???

Why should the club defend the forum??? We are just a few fans in the grand scheme of things!! Lets be honest, we dont know the full story and probably never will. We cant believe carl over chops and vice versa. The only people that know the truth were the ones there!

think CCFC has better things to worry about than defending a message board. jeez

So if Carl suddenly announces that Elvis is on the moon driving a double decker bus with Hitler as his conductor would The Echo go on to print it tomorrow ? Maybe or maybe not ...... point Im making is if The Echo are to run stories then they must have their sources of info too rather than just copy what Carl posts , so therefore anything they wish to print they do as a newspaper whereas Carl just posts rumours , speculation and gossip which he believes is more or less pucka BUT it isnt exactly in the public domain the same way as The Echo ! So finally why dont both Chopra and Bothroyd contact Carl to do a 1 to 1 interview purely for this Forum and put to bed any doubts ??

What about the storey they ran when one of our players was punched at (was it tgi ?)

Personally if this forum is responisble for getting rid of Chopra and Bothroyd then we have done CCFC a great service no matter what the Echo or those EX-Players might think.

A saving of £30k a week in wages and a £1.5m fee for a pair of bottlers and injury prone moaners is dam good business IMO

Personally if this forum is responisble for getting rid of Chopra and Bothroyd then we have done CCFC a great service no matter what the Echo or those EX-Players might think.

A saving of £30k a week in wages and a £1.5m fee for a pair of bottlers and injury prone moaners is dam good business IMO

Totally agree with that

Personally if this forum is responisble for getting rid of Chopra and Bothroyd then we have done CCFC a great service no matter what the Echo or those EX-Players might think.

A saving of £30k a week in wages and a £1.5m fee for a pair of bottlers and injury prone moaners is dam good business IMO

Totally agree with that

Oh how fickle we are.

Where does it pin the blame on this forum? He said internet messageboards and didn't single any out in particular, and there are more than just this one around. And why should anyone defend us other than ourselves? This is an unofficial message board where individuals are expressing their own personal opinions, nothing more. So Chopra didn't like what some on here were saying. He should get a thicker skin then.

This is just one of a few messageboards. Did they actually name us? If not, then you're basically acknowledging that this forum is in the wrong.

Without naming the messageboards, you cannot claim that they are targeting us in particular. There are ITKers on CCMB as well

Where does it pin the blame on this forum? He said internet messageboards and didn't single any out in particular, and there are more than just this one around. And why should anyone defend us other than ourselves? This is an unofficial message board where individuals are expressing their own personal opinions, nothing more. So Chopra didn't like what some on here were saying. He should get a thicker skin then.

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Where does it pin the blame on this forum? He said internet messageboards and didn't single any out in particular, and there are more than just this one around. And why should anyone defend us other than ourselves? This is an unofficial message board where individuals are expressing their own personal opinions, nothing more. So Chopra didn't like what some on here were saying. He should get a thicker skin then.

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they shouldnt worry about whats printed in the papers and messageboards whether its true or not.just be professional and carry on playing football for fucks sake

Good riddance out with the old in with the new

So if Carl suddenly announces that Elvis is on the moon driving a double decker bus with Hitler as his conductor would The Echo go on to print it tomorrow ?

Yes. Without a shadow of doubt.


And as has been said, why the football club would "defend" a messageboard, even less give a flying f**k about it, is beyond me. It's only a messageboard

Personally if this forum is responisble for getting rid of Chopra and Bothroyd then we have done CCFC a great service no matter what the Echo or those EX-Players might think.

A saving of £30k a week in wages and a £1.5m fee for a pair of bottlers and injury prone moaners is dam good business IMO

Totally agree with that

Oh how fickle we are.

So true.

NO YOU ARE ALL MISSING THE POINT. THEY ARE LETTING THIS MESSAGE BOARD TAKE THE RAP. WHY CANT THEY JUST TELL THE TRUTH AS TO WHAT HAPPENED. WE ARE ALL ENTITALLED TO THE TRUTH. IF IT WAS HOW CHOPRA SAID IT WAS WHY DID THE MALAYSIANS BOOT HIM OUT ?

NO YOU ARE ALL MISSING THE POINT. THEY ARE LETTING THIS MESSAGE BOARD TAKE THE RAP. WHY CANT THEY JUST TELL THE TRUTH AS TO WHAT HAPPENED. WE ARE ALL ENTITALLED TO THE TRUTH. IF IT WAS HOW CHOPRA SAID IT WAS WHY DID THE MALAYSIANS BOOT HIM OUT ?

YOU are taking this messageboard too seriously.

Both players and the press mention 'messageboards' and you more or less CLAIM
it to be this one, as though "well they wouldnt have read any other board!"

In the bigger scheme of things, this board, the CCMB board, any other board...
mean f**k ALL to Cardiff City Football Club.

Why are WE entitled to the truth??

We called Chopra a disgraceful lying gambling pisshead, he denied it, woopy-do...
move on. He has, he's at Ipswich now. Good. the club can do better

Whatever happened between Chopra and the Club when he left is nothing to do
with us really, we'd like to know... but why should they release details that both
parties may have shook on to keep confidential.

Someone above has even suggested that Bothroyd and Chopra be "interviewed"
by this board

This is not The Daily Mirror, or Private Eye...its a f*cking Football Messageboard

Every Club in Britain has one or two

If they shook hands Taffy then why have they both gone running to the Rags ? Nah we paid our money last season we are entitled to the truth as to why our promotion went TITS up.

Personally if this forum is responisble for getting rid of Chopra and Bothroyd then we have done CCFC a great service no matter what the Echo or those EX-Players might think.

A saving of £30k a week in wages and a £1.5m fee for a pair of bottlers and injury prone moaners is dam good business IMO

WHAT?? You honestly think this forum could have been responsible for the Club binning both players???


I feel sorry for Carl and Annis, they must be embarassed by some of the stuff they read, they try to
keep everyone informed of whats happening, have great sources, tell it like it is.

But I'm sorry mate. Do you think for one second that TG and Jenkins have sat down in that
Boardroom and said

"What we gonna do about Chopra and Bothroyd? they are both becoming bad influences here?"

"Well what do the lads on AAMB say?"

"Ah they say sack 'em!"

"Well thats them gone then, cancel their contracts!!"

Do you think when the idiots were seen in town on the lash, nobody at the Club knew until
it was mentioned on here??

If they shook hands Taffy then why have they both gone running to the Rags ? Nah we paid our money last season we are entitled to the truth as to why our promotion went TITS up.

We'll never know the truth. Chopra will say one thing, Bothroyd another and the Club
will (hopefully) keep a dignified silence.

they have slagged off Football messageboards? so what? We've slagged them off too

So its a score-draw

As for why our promotion went tits up...

Look to the ex-manager who could not manage these loose cannons, and who brought in
players that just were not up to the task

If they shook hands Taffy then why have they both gone running to the Rags ? Nah we paid our money last season we are entitled to the truth as to why our promotion went TITS up.

We'll never know the truth. Chopra will say one thing, Bothroyd another and the Club
will (hopefully) keep a dignified silence.

they have slagged off Football messageboards? so what? We've slagged them off too

So its a score-draw

As for why our promotion went tits up...

Look to the ex-manager who could not manage these loose cannons, and who brought in
players that just were not up to the task

We have a right to know which players were out on the lash before the Boro game. As a paying customer we all have the right to know. And the Club should tell us what exactly happened

If they shook hands Taffy then why have they both gone running to the Rags ? Nah we paid our money last season we are entitled to the truth as to why our promotion went TITS up.

We'll never know the truth. Chopra will say one thing, Bothroyd another and the Club
will (hopefully) keep a dignified silence.

they have slagged off Football messageboards? so what? We've slagged them off too

So its a score-draw

As for why our promotion went tits up...

Look to the ex-manager who could not manage these loose cannons, and who brought in
players that just were not up to the task

We have a right to know which players were out on the lash before the Boro game. As a paying customer we all have the right to know. And the Club should tell us what exactly happened

Now hang on... Explain "They are letting this messageboard take the rap" thats
what you wrote, is thats whats pissed you off the most?

cos I tell you summat. NOBODY will ever know exactly what was in those players drinks
that night, nobody will really know if they were hammered, the players would deny it
even if they were. The Club dont know, or they could have fined them heavily, I dont
believe they did, did they?... They brought this Club into disrepute and let the fans
down.. thats why we let them go!... If the Club turn round and say they got rid of them
cos they were pissheads it would be slander (without proof).

the fans, however, on MESSAGEBOARDS (note the plural) CAN say what they like...

But dont expect every player to just lie down and take it, some will fire back, thats
all thats happened here. its no drama

Are you serious ? we are only fans as much as we would all like to know whats going on we havent got the right to know. I know we pay good money to watch City but its our choice

They dont have to be drinking like Bothroyd wasn't but they were out until the early hours hours before a game. And yes we do have the right to know what Happened. In the Echo everyone is blaming the message boards or which is more likely they are printing just those that blame the message boards not the great big article the Echo wrote soon after the incident.

They dont have to be drinking like Bothroyd wasn't but they were out until the early hours hours before a game. And yes we do have the right to know what Happened. In the Echo everyone is blaming the message boards or which is more likely they are printing just those that blame the message boards not the great big article the Echo wrote soon after the incident.

Sorry, am i missing something?

what exactly are 'messageboards' being blamed for???

Chopra leaving? NO
Bothroyd leaving? NO
Cardiff City failing to get promoted? NO?
World debt?
The Greenhouse effect?

They dont have to be drinking like Bothroyd wasn't but they were out until the early hours hours before a game. And yes we do have the right to know what Happened. In the Echo everyone is blaming the message boards or which is more likely they are printing just those that blame the message boards not the great big article the Echo wrote soon after the incident.

Sorry, am i missing something?

what exactly are 'messageboards' being blamed for???

Chopra leaving? NO
Bothroyd leaving? NO
Cardiff City failing to get promoted? NO?
World debt?
The Greenhouse effect?

Apart from world debt and the Greenhouse effects they are blaming the message board for Chopra leaving the City, and also no wonder Bothroyd went as well