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Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:56 am

and we wounder why most the country are starting to kick off

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -rent.html

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:03 am

init, people like you and i struggle through working life, i pay my taxes, pay my car insurance etc and do everything by the book, YET IM THE FOOL IN LIFE, im the one this goverment loves and takes the piss out of, same for our parents etc My parents told me it was a struggle at the start, they often found they would have to feed me and my sister and them go without when money was tight, years ago!! these type of cunts go to a office and will get payouts and everything :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


dont get me f*cking started now :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


always said there would be another world war type thing , but it won't be between countrys

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:11 am

Ben wrote:and we wounder why most the country are starting to kick off

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -rent.html


Ben, Youve just Ruined My Day reminding me of where My Taxs go :evil: :evil:

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:16 am

Just to play devils on this, having read the story, she isn't getting it cash in hand the £7k goes straight to the landlord and that is the going rate for that home. The money she gets for her family of seven is minimal and would be hard to live on. The Daily Mail are godd at bigging up this sort of story.

However, not playing devils, I agree it's pathetic, for a start we are all aware how much it is to live in London and if you have to rely on welfare from the government they should be moved out of such a rich location.

I like the bit about the father not being around, he should be the one brought to book or are they running a scam. :evil:

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:31 am

Shouldnt be allowed. Her kids are school age-she could be out working. My Mrs is almost 7 months pregnant and still doing 2 jobs to help pay our way. I earn good money but we want to give our 3 kids the best.

f**k it. I'll quit my job. She can quit her jobs and my taxes can pay for me to do f**k all.

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:35 am

I'm a Liberal Democrat if I'm honest lads. I thought Labour would help me but they haven't and I'd rather eat my own balls than see the Conservatives come in. However, when I read news stories like that it makes me foolishly consider voting Conservatives purely to screw over the scumbags who abuse the system. Yes, I am now at that stage where I am willing to cut off my nose to spite my face.

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:01 pm

its totaly wrong and pisses me off, she should be out working, she not gona bother trying to support her family when sh'e got a bloody mansion rent free :!: :twisted:

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:59 pm

boys you do realise that this sort of thing went on under the tories dont you ?

massively

they brought in housing benefit in the first f*cking place !

and landlords made plenty of money from it then and still do now

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:46 pm

FUCKIN BOLLOCKS. Should put her in a Nelson Mandela house style flat like the trotters off Only Fools and Horses and be forced to do community work (like road sweeping,litter/dog shit picking)will that happen No....................... :x

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:49 pm

Sludge wrote:boys you do realise that this sort of thing went on under the tories dont you ?

massively

they brought in housing benefit in the first f*cking place !

and landlords made plenty of money from it then and still do now


Now Now Paul, We are currently run by Labour and have been for the last 13 years :evil:

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:54 pm

vote British National Party, accepting all races now

so they aint racist :ayatollah: :D :ayatollah: :D

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:11 pm

makes me wonder why i bother having a job. I should just get my mrs up the duff a few times

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:17 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Sludge wrote:boys you do realise that this sort of thing went on under the tories dont you ?

massively

they brought in housing benefit in the first f*cking place !

and landlords made plenty of money from it then and still do now


Now Now Paul, We are currently run by Labour and have been for the last 13 years :evil:



the tories sold off the council houses

so people went to live in private houses

paid for by us ..through housing benefit

brought in by your lot

and landlords made plenty of money out of it

no point people blaming the lack of cheap housing on labour ...it would cost billions to build enough houses to replace those lost by selling off the council houses

what do you think is the alternative ?

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:18 pm

Ben wrote:vote British National Party, accepting all races now

so they aint racist :ayatollah: :D :ayatollah: :D



and lee trundle is a bluebird

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:27 pm

Sludge wrote:
Ben wrote:vote British National Party, accepting all races now

so they aint racist :ayatollah: :D :ayatollah: :D



and lee trundle is a bluebird


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:29 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Sludge wrote:boys you do realise that this sort of thing went on under the tories dont you ?

massively

they brought in housing benefit in the first f*cking place !

and landlords made plenty of money from it then and still do now


Now Now Paul, We are currently run by Labour and have been for the last 13 years :evil:



Give them chance they've only just got in. You cant expect them to come up with a solution in 13 years.

Re: Just makes you mad

Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:38 pm

Sludge wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Sludge wrote:boys you do realise that this sort of thing went on under the tories dont you ?

massively

they brought in housing benefit in the first f*cking place !

and landlords made plenty of money from it then and still do now


Now Now Paul, We are currently run by Labour and have been for the last 13 years :evil:



the tories sold off the council houses

so people went to live in private houses

paid for by us ..through housing benefit

brought in by your lot

and landlords made plenty of money out of it

no point people blaming the lack of cheap housing on labour ...it would cost billions to build enough houses to replace those lost by selling off the council houses

what do you think is the alternative ?


Give the bone idle lazy sods some bricks, mortar, shovels, a trowel, corrigated iron sheets and they can build their own f*cking houses, the lefty socialist government can help them come June as they won't have a job either!

Re: Just makes you mad

Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:16 am

Midfield general wrote:UKIP are the only ones who will listen to the normal man on the street these days.

Sludge, may I remind you that when the Tories brought in the 'right to buy' scheme which was a fantastic idea by the way. The money which the local authorities got for the housing should have been put to develope more housing. Unfortunately they took at as a cash stream for other things and hense the serious lack of Council Houses now. May I also remind you that many local authorities who took the decision to divert those funds where Labour held Councils.

Did you all know that the Labour/Plaid led Assembly has also passed a directive now that a person who's just come out of prison is more intitled to a Council house before a person who has paid into the system for years yet may have lost their home in this financial climate. Absolutely disgusting!!!!


all totally untrue

the money that the councils raised from selling council houses was ring fenced meaning that it could not be spent on building new housing and had to be used to pay back the deficit to central government

until that deficit was cleared , no money whatsoever was available for new council house building

your suggestion that labour councils used the money they got from council house sales and diverted it into other areas instead of spending it on council housing is totally incorrect

total nonsense

much like UKIP

Re: Just makes you mad

Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:41 pm

its totally untrue and either you have been told billy bollocks or you are fibbing

the right to buy act stopped ANY council from spending money from council house sales unless they had paid off debts to central government FIRST

and in those days councils ruled by conservatives, labour , liberal ...all diifferent ones...had lots of debts

you stated that labour councils used money they should have spent on housing ( see above, they couldnt ) on other things

which councils ?

what did they spend it on ?


I will tell you one thing though...

westminster council ..which was run by the tories ...under a certain lady porter.... used council funds to mess about with the houses they controlled in order to gain votes..highly illegal ...if you want to talk about council housing and dodgy councils


have a look on the internet ...its all there


she was in court over it ...dodgy council housing ...a council run by the tories ...all on the internet


you clearly aint done any research on this matter at all

Re: Just makes you mad

Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:45 pm

Midfield general wrote:Its true and the sooner Labour supporters realise that its their Councils which spent the this income on other things the better.


no, it isnt true at all

The 'right to buy' was one of the best ideas ever to come from any government for decades and its typical tory bashing from Labour supporters to ignore this simple fact.


an opinion , not a fact

Re: Just makes you mad

Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:21 pm

Sludge(Paul), Your an intelligent person why do you defend these scroungers and Labour ?

Re: Just makes you mad

Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:26 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Sludge(Paul), Your an intelligent person why do you defend these scroungers and Labour ?

I cannot understand how anyone can defend spongers. We need a welfare state to help those in need. However the welfare state seems to encourage single mothers, drug addicts and layabouts. The work shy should be made to do jobs in the community (cleaning graffiti, painting fences, litter picking etc) for their benefits.

Re: Just makes you mad

Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:29 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Sludge(Paul), Your an intelligent person why do you defend these scroungers and Labour ?

I cannot understand how anyone can defend spongers. We need a welfare state to help those in need. However the welfare state seems to encourage single mothers, drug addicts and layabouts. The work shy should be made to do jobs in the community (cleaning graffiti, painting fences, litter picking etc) for their benefits.


Exactly! Work for your dole money! When I was on the dole I was doing odd jobs for family and friends to make it seem like I was doing my bit. I now know people who just get pregnant or sacked so they can have benefits.

Re: Just makes you mad

Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:41 pm

Zabier wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Sludge(Paul), Your an intelligent person why do you defend these scroungers and Labour ?

I cannot understand how anyone can defend spongers. We need a welfare state to help those in need. However the welfare state seems to encourage single mothers, drug addicts and layabouts. The work shy should be made to do jobs in the community (cleaning graffiti, painting fences, litter picking etc) for their benefits.


Exactly! Work for your dole money! When I was on the dole I was doing odd jobs for family and friends to make it seem like I was doing my bit. I now know people who just get pregnant or sacked so they can have benefits.

I was on the dole for 6 weeksabout 11years ago and i got eff all apart from 40 quid a week. Had i known the system my council taxetc would have been paid.

The trouble is no politician is willing to say that they will do such a thing. All scared of upsetting the spongers.

Re: Just makes you mad

Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:34 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Sludge(Paul), Your an intelligent person why do you defend these scroungers and Labour ?

I cannot understand how anyone can defend spongers. We need a welfare state to help those in need. However the welfare state seems to encourage single mothers, drug addicts and layabouts. The work shy should be made to do jobs in the community (cleaning graffiti, painting fences, litter picking etc) for their benefits.



I totally agree

I want midfield general to tell me about these labour councils he says committed fraud with public money over council house money

the only fraud I can find was a tory one ...lady porter


hes gone all quiet

Re: Just makes you mad

Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:42 pm

Zabier wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Sludge(Paul), Your an intelligent person why do you defend these scroungers and Labour ?

I cannot understand how anyone can defend spongers. We need a welfare state to help those in need. However the welfare state seems to encourage single mothers, drug addicts and layabouts. The work shy should be made to do jobs in the community (cleaning graffiti, painting fences, litter picking etc) for their benefits.


Exactly! Work for your dole money! When I was on the dole I was doing odd jobs for family and friends to make it seem like I was doing my bit. I now know people who just get pregnant or sacked so they can have benefits.



I cany understand how anyone can defend scroungers either

but it was the tory government who sold off council houses

they then didnt build any to replace them from 1980 to 1997

and so people had to go and live in private flats ...paid for if people were not working or disabled by housing benefit ......and people who had lots of flats and houses did very well out of it

and we , the tax payer , had to pay for that ...it cost us billions and still does

you can blame the labour govt for iraq and blame the labour govt for not being tough on immigration

but you cant blame them for all the council houses being sold and none built to replace then for 17 years while the tories were in power

labour have tried to stop the sale of council houses and invest in social housing , but unless this country spends billions on building new ones, the situation will continue

if the labour govt had said that they were going to have to rank up taxes to pay for this massive building programme to replace the houses sold ....guess who would have been complaining about " bloody taxes " ?

Re: Just makes you mad

Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:49 am

Midfield general wrote:UKIP are the only ones who will listen to the normal man on the street these days.

Sludge, may I remind you that when the Tories brought in the 'right to buy' scheme which was a fantastic idea by the way. The money which the local authorities got for the housing should have been put to develope more housing. Unfortunately they took at as a cash stream for other things and hense the serious lack of Council Houses now. May I also remind you that many local authorities who took the decision to divert those funds where Labour held Councils.

Did you all know that the Labour/Plaid led Assembly has also passed a directive now that a person who's just come out of prison is more intitled to a Council house before a person who has paid into the system for years yet may have lost their home in this financial climate. Absolutely disgusting!!!!


Theres something in this UKIP , they talk alot of sense.

Re: Just makes you mad

Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:16 am

Doesnt matter whos in power the world is run by these guys

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Just makes you mad

Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:42 pm

Daya wrote:
Midfield general wrote:UKIP are the only ones who will listen to the normal man on the street these days.

Sludge, may I remind you that when the Tories brought in the 'right to buy' scheme which was a fantastic idea by the way. The money which the local authorities got for the housing should have been put to develope more housing. Unfortunately they took at as a cash stream for other things and hense the serious lack of Council Houses now. May I also remind you that many local authorities who took the decision to divert those funds where Labour held Councils.

Did you all know that the Labour/Plaid led Assembly has also passed a directive now that a person who's just come out of prison is more intitled to a Council house before a person who has paid into the system for years yet may have lost their home in this financial climate. Absolutely disgusting!!!!


Theres something in this UKIP , they talk alot of sense.


sense ?

do me a favour dayo


the info this fella midfield general has put up in this post is totally untrue ?

they may well talk sense, not in my opinion, but this post he put up is nonsense , toal nonsense