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Who are the Malaysians??

Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:22 pm

Is it just TG & Tan, is TG just fronting for Tan or are there others involved in the 'consortium'? If there are others then it would be interesting to find out who they are. Also, check out the accounts of the Berjaya group, there are accounts on several of the businesses under the Berjaya umbrella. Shareholding details are interesting too. Notice how Tan has increased the turnover dramatically over the last couple of years. Looks promising anyway!

http://www.berjaya.com/
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Re: Who are the Malaysians??

Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:48 pm

Tan is a billionaire. No need of anyone else.
TG and Tan fine by me
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Re: Who are the Malaysians??

Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:53 pm

It was originally a consortium of 5 businessmen including TG, VT and 3 others all Multi millionaires or billionaires. Not sure if that has changed since the HMRC debacle. We know TG is still there as he is now a director as for the rest of them dunno - ask Annis :ayatollah:

Re: Who are the Malaysians??

Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:10 pm

If we come under the Berjaya umbrella then I suggest we are going places big time. Interesting times ahead. :ayatollah:

Re: Who are the Malaysians??

Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:14 pm

ihatealiens wrote:If we come under the Berjaya umbrella then I suggest we are going places big time. Interesting times ahead. :ayatollah:



Let's not get carried away....given the state of the game I cant see them throwing money around.......and to be honest I do not want to see them doing so.

If a player doesn't want to come to Cardiff ....and will be only persuaded by a huge salary Id tell him to feck off.

Re: Who are the Malaysians??

Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:43 pm

just come across this old post may help little.

VINCENT TAN NEXT FOR CARDIFF CITY?


After the appointment of Dato Chan Tien Ghee to the club’s board last week, Bluebirds chairman Peter Ridsdale is now desperate to secure the involvement of ‘TG’s” associate Vincent Tan.

And with a personal wealth estimated at US$1.3bn there is little surprise Ridsdale is keen to bring on board a man who first made his fortune as a McDonald’s franchisee.

Tan – or Tan Sri Vincent Tan Chee Yioun to give him his full title – had long been rumoured to be the man behind the man after Ridsdale first went public with his courting of Chan back in August.

The City supremo insisted then he had hoped his dealings with Chan could open up doors to both direct and indirect investment – and he has now gone public on his hopes entrepreneur Tan will add Cardiff City to his quite incredible portfolio.

Linked through Chan’s Central Malaysian Properties, Tan’s name was first publicly mentioned by Ridsdale during Monday night’s Q&A session with supporters.

And a brief glance at Tan’s business dealings suggest it would signal an end to the cash-flow issues that have been spoken about in recent times.

The head and chair of colossal conglomerate The Berjaya Group, 52-year-old Tan was last year placed by influential financial publishers Forbes as the ninth richest man in Malaysia with a net worth of US$1.3bn.

Unsurprising given the long list of interests with The Berjaya Group reported to include as many as seven public and 200 private companies ranging from gambling, telecommunications, media, textiles, tourism, financial services, property, industry and consumer marketing – combined sales of his network of enterprises reportedly reaching US$4bn.

But it is in the fast-food business that first gave Tan his break after he invested in the first McDonald’s franchise in Malaysia.

Having quit schooling at 17, he landed his first restaurant at 29. The golden arches now pop up in 185 different spots in Malaysia.

Starbucks is the other big US business that Tan has his hands on in his homeland through franchise rights and he has not been slow to invest wherever he feels there is an opening for enterprise.

“I move like a cheetah. Others, they move like elephants,” Tan said in a recent interview with Forbes.

And it seems he has not stopped moving, hinting at his willingness to look overseas with these comments from the same interview: “It’s a challenge. I want to learn how to do business and to be successful in different countries. It’s all about a combination of money and other factors that you have to organise into a force that creates value.”

Cardiff seem reliant on full investment from the Malaysians, whether from Tan directly or if TG is able to provide further funds following his apparent initial investment last week.

To put it in context, Ridsdale stated at the fans’ forum on Monday that talks with potential American investors are off.

And, after giving the first details of the proposed new agreement with Langston, it is clear Cardiff need injection of cash to meet the £10m 12-month repayment deadline set out.

As reported in yesterday’s Echo, Ridsdale insists there is a verbal agreement in place with Langston to restructure the existing debt by starting with monthly payments in January and the stadium naming rights valued at £5m rather than the £9m quoted figure under the previous agreement.

Ridsdale admitted there is a clause to pay £1m a year until 2016 should the club miss their £10m target in 2010.

Ridsdale also admitted at the meeting he hopes the debts – including the unpaid tax bill that brought about a High Court hearing last week – can be managed by Malaysian investment.

But the deal with Langston – hoped to be signed in the immediate future – is believed to be crucial in ensuring the club looks a much more of an attractive proposition, especially given their new stadium asset.

Ridsdale stated at the meetings the Malaysians are currently going through the club’s books.

It hasn’t been made clear in public whether they were aware of the High Court date with the Revenue until after it came to light via Media Wales.

Still Ridsdale painted a positive picture of the current standing with both Chan and Tan at the meeting with the fans’ at the capital’s municipal club.

“TG has put in an amount of money with another amount due this week,” he maintained.

“I cannot say how much that is, but I will say it is in the millions. I have also met with Vincent Tan.

“They have asked for all the numbers regarding the club and we have given them those.

“They will be considered with due diligence.

“They have indicated they are interested in investing in everything from a minority 10% stake in the club to a majority if they like what they see.

“British football is very attractive to people in the Far East.”

Re: Who are the Malaysians??

Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:53 pm

Facts and Statistics

Location: Southeastern Asia. Shares borders with Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore and Brunei.

Capital: Kuala Lumpur

Climate: tropical; annual southwest (April to October) and northeast (October to February) monsoons

Population: 24,821,286 (July 2007 est.)

Ethnic Make-up: Malay 50.4%, Chinese 23.7%, indigenous 11%, Indian 7.1%, others 7.8%

Religions: Muslim 60.4%, Buddhist 19.2%, Christian 9.1%, Hindu 6.3%, Confucianism, Taoism, other traditional Chinese religions 2.6%, other or unknown 1.5%, none 0.8%

Government: constitutional monarchy

Language in Malaysia

The Malay language is an Austronesian language spoken not only by Malaysians but all Malay people who reside in the Malay Peninsula, southern Thailand, the Philippines, Singapore, central eastern Sumatra, the Riau islands, parts of the coast of Borneo, Cocos and Christmas Islands in Australia. It is also very similar to Indonesian, known locally as Bahasa Indonesia.
In Malaysia, the language is officially known as Bahasa Malaysia, which translates as the "Malaysian language". The term, which was introduced by the National Language Act 1967, was predominant until the 1990s, when most academics and government officials reverted to "Bahasa Melayu," which is used in the Malay version of the Federal Constitution.

Malay Culture and Society

A Multi-Cultural Society

Malaysia is a multi-cultural society. The main ethnic groups are the native Malays as well as large populations of Chinese, and Indians. When visiting the country it is clear that the ethnicities retain their religions, customs and way of life. The most important festivals of each group are public holidays.

Although growing up, children are educated in the same schools and will eventually work in the same offices, few marry outside their own ethnicity. Families tend to socialise within their own ethnic group – all part of retaining their individual traditions and lifestyles.

Despite the ethnic differences there are commonalities culturally speaking.

Group Orientation

The family is considered the centre of the social structure. As a result there is a great emphasis on unity, loyalty and respect for the elderly. The family is the place where the individual can be guaranteed both emotional and financial support. When one member of the family suffers a financial setback, the rest of the family will contribute what they can to help out. Families tend to be extended, although in the larger cities this will naturally differ.

The Concept of Face

Malays, Chinese and Indians all strive to maintain face and avoid shame both in public and private. Face is a personal concept that embraces qualities such as a good name, good character, and being held in esteem by one's peers. Face is considered a commodity that can be given, lost, taken away, or earned. On top of this face also extends to the family, school, company, and even the nation itself.

The desire to maintain face makes Malaysians strive for harmonious relationships.

Face can be lost by openly criticizing, insulting, or putting someone on the spot; doing something that brings shame to the group; challenging someone in authority, especially if this is done in public; showing anger at another person; refusing a request; not keeping a promise; or disagreeing with someone publicly. Conversely, face can be saved by remaining calm and courteous; discussing errors or transgressions in private; speaking about problems without blaming anyone; using non-verbal communication to say "no"; and allowing the other person to get out of the situation with their pride intact.

Re: Who are the Malaysians??

Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:56 pm

Meeting and Greeting

Greetings in a social context will depend upon the ethnicity of the person you are meeting. In general, most Malays are aware of Western ways so the handshake is normal. There may be slight differences though and a few things to bear in mind include:

• Malay women may not shake hands with men. Women can of course shake hands with women. Men may also not shake hands with women and may bow instead while placing their hand on their heart.

Among all cultures, there is a general tendency to introduce:

• the most important person to the lower ranking person.

• the older person to the younger person.
• women to men.

Names

The way names are used also varies between ethnicities:

Malays

• Many Malays do not have surnames. Instead, men add their father's name to their own name with the term "bin" (meaning ‘son of’). So Rosli bin Suleiman, would be Rosli the son of Suleiman.
• Women use the term "binti", so Aysha bint Suleiman is Aysha the daughter of Suleiman.

Gift Giving Etiquette

Here are some general gift giving etiquette guidelines:

Gift giving to Malays:

• If invited to someone's home for dinner, bring the hostess pastries or good quality chocolates.
• Never give alcohol.
• Do not give toy dogs or pigs to children.
• Do not give anything made of pigskin.
• Avoid white wrapping paper as it symbolizes death and mourning.
• Avoid yellow wrapping paper, as it is the color of royalty.
• If you give food, it must be “halal” (meaning permissible for Muslims).
• Offer gifts with the right hand only or both hands if the item is large.
• Gifts are generally not opened when received.

Re: Who are the Malaysians??

Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:03 pm

found this quite funny may explain why they have been sitting on the sideline since last year and only now making a move.

Malaysians view time in a more relaxed sense for the most part. They put more emphasis on people, relationship, rather than set schedules and deadlines.
While the bus, train, and plane schedules will be adhered to for the most part, showing up a little late to a party or function is quite common.