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Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:51 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:every dog has its day. coleman's was euro 2016.
it will be interesting to see how he does in his next job without a superstar that has earned him almost all of his wins*. he is a solid manager, but seems to have a very high opinion of himself and as such, i doubt he has the humility to realise that without Mr Bale, he would have had his p45 long ago.
* thats easy, just look at his record prior to wales
Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:30 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:every dog has its day. coleman's was euro 2016.
it will be interesting to see how he does in his next job without a superstar that has earned him almost all of his wins*. he is a solid manager, but seems to have a very high opinion of himself and as such, i doubt he has the humility to realise that without Mr Bale, he would have had his p45 long ago.
* thats easy, just look at his record prior to wales
Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:06 pm
rontom wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:every dog has its day. coleman's was euro 2016.
it will be interesting to see how he does in his next job without a superstar that has earned him almost all of his wins*. he is a solid manager, but seems to have a very high opinion of himself and as such, i doubt he has the humility to realise that without Mr Bale, he would have had his p45 long ago.
* thats easy, just look at his record prior to wales
When Mourino was asked who is the best man management manager in the Premier League, he did not state Alex Ferguson but said it was Chris Coleman
Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:29 pm
Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:56 pm
EalingBluebird wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:every dog has its day. coleman's was euro 2016.
it will be interesting to see how he does in his next job without a superstar that has earned him almost all of his wins*. he is a solid manager, but seems to have a very high opinion of himself and as such, i doubt he has the humility to realise that without Mr Bale, he would have had his p45 long ago.
* thats easy, just look at his record prior to wales
What absolute rubbish. You don't happen to work for a bitter English media do you?
He had a very good club management career regardless of the myth many people against him with to try and peddle - and is Wales most successful international manager of all time... By some distance. Many clubs and countries have superstars, we have had a certain Ryan Giggs for over a decade - not many achieve what he has though. He is a credit to our country and you should show the man a bit more respect.
As for the thread in hand, what on earth is silly about that. He doesn't want to manage a nation he has not got a passion for. I don't think that is at all a shocking statement. Fair play to him.
I said before the group stages that he could win the Euros and some of our Cardiff based fans will still try to find some mud to sling at him. Quite pathetic and extremely tiresome.
Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:16 pm
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Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:01 am
Forever Blue wrote:Chris Coleman's magnificent response when English media ask if he would take England job
Monday 4th July 2016
BY CHRIS WATHAN
The Wales manager had a categoric answer ready for English journalists
Wales boss Chris Coleman says he would never even contemplate the prospect of managing England.
“But to manage another country? No, I wouldn't. That's not something I would consider.”
Stupid f*cking question really!
Coleman's stock has soared over the past few weeks as he's masterminded Wales' remarkable journey to the semi-finals of Euro 2016.
And, with a large English press pack arriving at Wales' team base this week ahead of Wednesday's historic match against Portugal, it was cheekily suggested he could be a possible contender to replace Roy Hodgson as the Three Lions lick their wounds following their Euro exit at the hands of Iceland.
But Coleman, who signed a new two-year deal to lead Wales through their World Cup qualifying just before the tournament, was categoric in his response.
“It's not something that would ever, ever enter my thinking. I could never rule that in," he said.
"I'm a Welshman through and through and I've only ever wanted to manage Wales internationally. It would only ever be Wales.
“I've always said my next job after Wales, whenever that is, will probably be abroad because I want to manage in the Champions League and I think that would be my best chance.
“But to manage another country? No, I wouldn't. That's not something I would consider.”
Wales' success is only plunging England into further introspection as they enviously see the incredible achievements being made by a team they thought they would beat to top spot in Group B.
And it has not escaped notice that Wales have already matched their best-ever run in the European Championships, winning as many knockout games in one tournament as the Three Lions have mustered since making it to the last four of Euro '96, 20 years ago.
England's one win in France was the last-gasp win over Wales in Lens, but now experts are saying the English FA should learn lessons from Wales.
Yet Coleman insisted he isn't interested in sharing the secrets, adding: “I've no idea what's being said but all I know is that the bigger countries have got to get into quarter finals, semi-finals, final. We didn’t. We had to come and perform for us, for inside our camp. I thought we had a good chance of getting to the quarter final but I never came out and said to the players: ‘that is what we can do.’ “We just take it game by game and that’s all we’ve ever done. It’s boring. Anyone who listens to me talk, I say the same thing.”
Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:50 am
SwampCCFC wrote:err, its called having a different opinion, is that allowed?
he will not manage wales forever, so we will see. his career was heading for the toilet before the FAW gave him a job. at times, the way bale was playing, there were games which a 5 year old could have managed us to the same result.
to be honest i take little notice of current players opinions on their manager. for the very simple reason that its not in players interests to be brutally honest until the manager is out of the door. why not talk to his chairman at sociedad who was shocked to find him turning up late for work because of night clubbing? there are two sides to every story.
i can't argue that luck is on his side - having the second best player in the world at the moment, and an expanded euros - under the old system we would have been in the play offs - not once have i seen him acknowledge this. whether or not he's a good manager, i think he is incredibly arrogant in relation to what he has achieved in the game, which has clearly influenced my opinion of him. god knows what he'll be like after this tournament.
Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:58 pm
EalingBluebird wrote:rontom wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:every dog has its day. coleman's was euro 2016.
it will be interesting to see how he does in his next job without a superstar that has earned him almost all of his wins*. he is a solid manager, but seems to have a very high opinion of himself and as such, i doubt he has the humility to realise that without Mr Bale, he would have had his p45 long ago.
* thats easy, just look at his record prior to wales
When Mourino was asked who is the best man management manager in the Premier League, he did not state Alex Ferguson but said it was Chris Coleman
Gareth Bale was asked last week:- "What has happened within this Welsh side in the last few years to become what we are seeing today"
His answer:- "In all honesty.. Chris Coleman".
It's convenient how many choose to ignore Gary Speeds club management career which is probably one of the worst in Welsh International management history. Didnt he take Sheff Utd to rock bottom of the league before Wales bizarrely stepping in? Colemans club and international record is Mount Everest compared to Speeds Pen Y Fan - but it's not fashionable to highlight that of course.
No manager will again come close to what he has achieved with Wales in all our lifetimes. Of that I am sure.
Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:14 pm
EalingBluebird wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:every dog has its day. coleman's was euro 2016.
it will be interesting to see how he does in his next job without a superstar that has earned him almost all of his wins*. he is a solid manager, but seems to have a very high opinion of himself and as such, i doubt he has the humility to realise that without Mr Bale, he would have had his p45 long ago.
* thats easy, just look at his record prior to wales
What absolute rubbish. You don't happen to work for a bitter English media do you?
He had a very good club management career regardless of the myth many people against him with to try and peddle - and is Wales most successful international manager of all time... By some distance. Many clubs and countries have superstars, we have had a certain Ryan Giggs for over a decade - not many achieve what he has though. He is a credit to our country and you should show the man a bit more respect.
As for the thread in hand, what on earth is silly about that. He doesn't want to manage a nation he has not got a passion for. I don't think that is at all a shocking statement. Fair play to him.
I said before the group stages that he could win the Euros and some of our Cardiff based fans will still try to find some mud to sling at him. Quite pathetic and extremely tiresome.
Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:14 pm
EalingBluebird wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:every dog has its day. coleman's was euro 2016.
it will be interesting to see how he does in his next job without a superstar that has earned him almost all of his wins*. he is a solid manager, but seems to have a very high opinion of himself and as such, i doubt he has the humility to realise that without Mr Bale, he would have had his p45 long ago.
* thats easy, just look at his record prior to wales
What absolute rubbish. You don't happen to work for a bitter English media do you?
He had a very good club management career regardless of the myth many people against him with to try and peddle - and is Wales most successful international manager of all time... By some distance. Many clubs and countries have superstars, we have had a certain Ryan Giggs for over a decade - not many achieve what he has though. He is a credit to our country and you should show the man a bit more respect.
As for the thread in hand, what on earth is silly about that. He doesn't want to manage a nation he has not got a passion for. I don't think that is at all a shocking statement. Fair play to him.
I said before the group stages that he could win the Euros and some of our Cardiff based fans will still try to find some mud to sling at him. Quite pathetic and extremely tiresome.
Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:02 pm
Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:10 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:'He had a very good club management career regardless of the myth many people against him with to try and peddle - and is Wales most successful international manager of all time... By some distance.'
under coleman we finished 2nd in our group, it is a disservice to sparky (a vastly more capable manager) who also got us to second and would have qualified under the new system. coleman got a massive stroke of luck when the euros were expanded. where has he acknowledged this? all he's doing is lapping it up and enjoying his 15 minutes.
Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:18 pm
KBK-13 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:'He had a very good club management career regardless of the myth many people against him with to try and peddle - and is Wales most successful international manager of all time... By some distance.'
under coleman we finished 2nd in our group, it is a disservice to sparky (a vastly more capable manager) who also got us to second and would have qualified under the new system. coleman got a massive stroke of luck when the euros were expanded. where has he acknowledged this? all he's doing is lapping it up and enjoying his 15 minutes.
Why would he come out and say we are lucky to be here, if it wasn't for the changes to the tournament we would be on holiday?
I haven't noticed any other managers who have finished 2nd come out and say it either.
Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:59 am
SwampCCFC wrote:KBK-13 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:'He had a very good club management career regardless of the myth many people against him with to try and peddle - and is Wales most successful international manager of all time... By some distance.'
under coleman we finished 2nd in our group, it is a disservice to sparky (a vastly more capable manager) who also got us to second and would have qualified under the new system. coleman got a massive stroke of luck when the euros were expanded. where has he acknowledged this? all he's doing is lapping it up and enjoying his 15 minutes.
Why would he come out and say we are lucky to be here, if it wasn't for the changes to the tournament we would be on holiday?
I haven't noticed any other managers who have finished 2nd come out and say it either.
well if i was manager and people kept telling me i was the best thing since sliced bread i'd say hang on, thats a disservice to sparky, who achieved the same.
given the circumstances, i'd like to see a bit more humility. i am clearly in a minority of one on this thread and thats not a problem. probably best to accept our differences and enjoy the match tommorow
Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:42 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:KBK-13 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:'He had a very good club management career regardless of the myth many people against him with to try and peddle - and is Wales most successful international manager of all time... By some distance.'
under coleman we finished 2nd in our group, it is a disservice to sparky (a vastly more capable manager) who also got us to second and would have qualified under the new system. coleman got a massive stroke of luck when the euros were expanded. where has he acknowledged this? all he's doing is lapping it up and enjoying his 15 minutes.
Why would he come out and say we are lucky to be here, if it wasn't for the changes to the tournament we would be on holiday?
I haven't noticed any other managers who have finished 2nd come out and say it either.
well if i was manager and people kept telling me i was the best thing since sliced bread i'd say hang on, thats a disservice to sparky, who achieved the same.
given the circumstances, i'd like to see a bit more humility. i am clearly in a minority of one on this thread and thats not a problem. probably best to accept our differences and enjoy the match tommorow
Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:16 am
EalingBluebird wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:KBK-13 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:'He had a very good club management career regardless of the myth many people against him with to try and peddle - and is Wales most successful international manager of all time... By some distance.'
under coleman we finished 2nd in our group, it is a disservice to sparky (a vastly more capable manager) who also got us to second and would have qualified under the new system. coleman got a massive stroke of luck when the euros were expanded. where has he acknowledged this? all he's doing is lapping it up and enjoying his 15 minutes.
Why would he come out and say we are lucky to be here, if it wasn't for the changes to the tournament we would be on holiday?
I haven't noticed any other managers who have finished 2nd come out and say it either.
well if i was manager and people kept telling me i was the best thing since sliced bread i'd say hang on, thats a disservice to sparky, who achieved the same.
given the circumstances, i'd like to see a bit more humility. i am clearly in a minority of one on this thread and thats not a problem. probably best to accept our differences and enjoy the match tommorow
So has anybody actually seen this "im the best thing since sliced bread" comments then? Or is it just in your head?
Just like the imaginary fantasy land where Mark Hughes achieved the same as Coleman is just in your head too?
Pass the crackpipe.
Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:52 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:KBK-13 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:'He had a very good club management career regardless of the myth many people against him with to try and peddle - and is Wales most successful international manager of all time... By some distance.'
under coleman we finished 2nd in our group, it is a disservice to sparky (a vastly more capable manager) who also got us to second and would have qualified under the new system. coleman got a massive stroke of luck when the euros were expanded. where has he acknowledged this? all he's doing is lapping it up and enjoying his 15 minutes.
Why would he come out and say we are lucky to be here, if it wasn't for the changes to the tournament we would be on holiday?
I haven't noticed any other managers who have finished 2nd come out and say it either.
well if i was manager and people kept telling me i was the best thing since sliced bread i'd say hang on, thats a disservice to sparky, who achieved the same.
given the circumstances, i'd like to see a bit more humility. i am clearly in a minority of one on this thread and thats not a problem. probably best to accept our differences and enjoy the match tommorow
Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:02 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:every dog has its day. coleman's was euro 2016.
it will be interesting to see how he does in his next job without a superstar that has earned him almost all of his wins*. he is a solid manager, but seems to have a very high opinion of himself and as such, i doubt he has the humility to realise that without Mr Bale, he would have had his p45 long ago.
* thats easy, just look at his record prior to wales