Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:36 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Owain wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote::lol:
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I really can't stand the woman.
She's a foo-foo, going to put Scotland back to the dark ages,independence ar any cost. SNP will ruin Scotland, as they dont have an economic plan
Well luckily the Scottish people get to vote and decide.
You could say the same for the Brexit vote; there is no plan nor any real idea of what a deal could look like.
Correct me if I'm wrong but they have already voted and decided in a once in a generation referendum. And they rejected independence.
And for Brexit. What plan ? we voted to leave and leave we shall do.
Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:42 am
pembroke allan wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Owain wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote::lol:
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I really can't stand the woman.
She's a foo-foo, going to put Scotland back to the dark ages,independence ar any cost. SNP will ruin Scotland, as they dont have an economic plan
Well, luckily the Scottish people get to vote and decide.
You could say the same for the Brexit vote; there is no plan nor any real idea of what a deal could look like.
Correct me if I'm wrong but they have already voted and decided in a once in a generation referendum. And they rejected independence.
And for Brexit. What plan ? we voted to leave and leave we shall do.
Once in a generation but they didn't give answer snp wanted? Your right the plan is to leave EU as oted for by the majority of UK citizens.
Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:05 pm
Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:39 pm
AfanBluebird wrote:If Scotland are in such a huge amount of Debt, why is the UK government holding a Independence referendum back? If their GDP doesn't meet the standards of The EU, why does the SNP want a Independence referendum so soon after meeting with the EU (4 weeks ago)?
All I'm seeing is a slagging match from a bunch of grown men. Take a look at yourself for God sake. Some of you are 40/50 years old, and slagging off a leader of a country you're not even from for being a "bitch and idiot".
Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:10 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:If Scotland are in such a huge amount of Debt, why is the UK government holding a Independence referendum back? If their GDP doesn't meet the standards of The EU, why does the SNP want a Independence referendum so soon after meeting with the EU (4 weeks ago)?
All I'm seeing is a slagging match from a bunch of grown men. Take a look at yourself for God sake. Some of you are 40/50 years old, and slagging off a leader of a country you're not even from for being a "bitch and idiot".
It's called expressing an opinion, or are most opinions on here different from yours and therefore should not be voiced.
Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:37 pm
Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:39 pm
AfanBluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:If Scotland are in such a huge amount of Debt, why is the UK government holding a Independence referendum back? If their GDP doesn't meet the standards of The EU, why does the SNP want a Independence referendum so soon after meeting with the EU (4 weeks ago)?
All I'm seeing is a slagging match from a bunch of grown men. Take a look at yourself for God sake. Some of you are 40/50 years old, and slagging off a leader of a country you're not even from for being a "bitch and idiot".
It's called expressing an opinion, or are most opinions on here different from yours and therefore should not be voiced.
There's an opinion then there's calling someone a "bitch and idiot" for pursuing what was in her Manifesto.
Resulting to insults should be left to the playground, not left to 40/50 year old men behind a computer screen.
Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:32 pm
AfanBluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:If Scotland are in such a huge amount of Debt, why is the UK government holding a Independence referendum back? If their GDP doesn't meet the standards of The EU, why does the SNP want a Independence referendum so soon after meeting with the EU (4 weeks ago)?
All I'm seeing is a slagging match from a bunch of grown men. Take a look at yourself for God sake. Some of you are 40/50 years old, and slagging off a leader of a country you're not even from for being a "bitch and idiot".
It's called expressing an opinion, or are most opinions on here different from yours and therefore should not be voiced.
There's an opinion then there's calling someone a "bitch and idiot" for pursuing what was in her Manifesto.
Resulting to insults should be left to the playground, not left to 40/50 year old men behind a computer screen.
Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:23 pm
pembroke allan wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:If Scotland are in such a huge amount of Debt, why is the UK government holding a Independence referendum back? If their GDP doesn't meet the standards of The EU, why does the SNP want a Independence referendum so soon after meeting with the EU (4 weeks ago)?
All I'm seeing is a slagging match from a bunch of grown men. Take a look at yourself for God sake. Some of you are 40/50 years old, and slagging off a leader of a country you're not even from for being a "bitch and idiot".
It's called expressing an opinion, or are most opinions on here different from yours and therefore should not be voiced.
There's an opinion then there's calling someone a "bitch and idiot" for pursuing what was in her Manifesto.
Resulting to insults should be left to the playground, not left to 40/50 year old men behind a computer screen.
Are you her grandad or son? because you apear to be taking things personally? you are getting knickers in a twist on a football forum where name calling of some degree is common? May not be appropriate but hey that's life on here!
Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:30 pm
Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:48 pm
Jock wrote:Sturgeon is a weapons grade bitch......and an idiot.
Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:04 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Jock wrote:Sturgeon is a weapons grade bitch......and an idiot.
Correct me if I'm wrong Jock, but reading between the lines I get the impression you are not fussed on her.
Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:06 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:If Scotland are in such a huge amount of Debt, why is the UK government holding a Independence referendum back? If their GDP doesn't meet the standards of The EU, why does the SNP want a Independence referendum so soon after meeting with the EU (4 weeks ago)?
All I'm seeing is a slagging match from a bunch of grown men. Take a look at yourself for God sake. Some of you are 40/50 years old, and slagging off a leader of a country you're not even from for being a "bitch and idiot".
It's called expressing an opinion, or are most opinions on here different from yours and therefore should not be voiced.
There's an opinion then there's calling someone a "bitch and idiot" for pursuing what was in her Manifesto.
Resulting to insults should be left to the playground, not left to 40/50 year old men behind a computer screen.
Are you her grandad or son? because you apear to be taking things personally? you are getting knickers in a twist on a football forum where name calling of some degree is common? May not be appropriate but hey that's life on here!
Bit rich coming from you you weird little man, the amount of times you've reported me for name calling is beyond. Cluedos Alien strikes again. I will take this post as permission to abuse you whenever I like from now on.
I agree with AfanBluebird, why so much hate towards her? She clearly stated in her last manifesto they would go for another vote and then proceeded to get a huge share of the vote. They also said last time that it was a once in a generation event unless there was a huge change in circumstances - leaving the EU is that change in circumstance. Now I happen to think Scotland would be a lot worse off if they went it alone but they have absolute right to do so and have another vote on it in my eyes.
Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:16 pm
Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:23 pm
Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:04 pm
AfanBluebird wrote:If Scotland are in such a huge amount of Debt, why is the UK government holding a Independence referendum back? If their GDP doesn't meet the standards of The EU, why does the SNP want a Independence referendum so soon after meeting with the EU (4 weeks ago)?
All I'm seeing is a slagging match from a bunch of grown men. Take a look at yourself for God sake. Some of you are 40/50 years old, and slagging off a leader of a country you're not even from for being a "bitch and idiot".
Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:07 pm
Jock wrote:Sturgeon is a weapons grade bitch......and an idiot.
Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:19 am
Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:34 am
AfanBluebird wrote:Political Parties and Political Leaders often get slagged off in the media for not doing what is in their Manifesto. The Voters in Scotland gave the SNP the majority in their country, whether you agree with it or not. Whether or not you argee, Scotland voted remain in the EU referendum, should they be taken out of the EU against their will?
Here's the part of the 2016 manifesto of the SNP. Quite clearly says they will be pursuing another referendum within the next parliament... not really a shock is it? Scottish Greens have also said the same.
I ask again, if Scotland is in such a state financially, why are the UK so desperate to hold on to them? The UK is coming other of the EU, so won't need to bail them out.
Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:01 pm
Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:12 pm
Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:20 pm
Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:55 pm
llangainbluebird wrote:Struggling to see how so many people can get so worked up about Scotland, (excluding Jock, of course, who comes across as quite calm, compared to many on here). Personally, I'm looking forward to a new country called England and Wales. The English are the best friends we, (Welsh), will ever have.
Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:09 pm
jon1959 wrote:llangainbluebird wrote:Struggling to see how so many people can get so worked up about Scotland, (excluding Jock, of course, who comes across as quite calm, compared to many on here). Personally, I'm looking forward to a new country called England and Wales. The English are the best friends we, (Welsh), will ever have.
It would be like the cricket board - shortened to England!
Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:16 pm
AfanBluebird wrote:Political Parties and Political Leaders often get slagged off in the media for not doing what is in their Manifesto. The Voters in Scotland gave the SNP the majority in their country, whether you agree with it or not. Whether or not you argee, Scotland voted remain in the EU referendum, should they be taken out of the EU against their will?
Here's the part of the 2016 manifesto of the SNP. Quite clearly says they will be pursuing another referendum within the next parliament... not really a shock is it? Scottish Greens have also said the same.
I ask again, if Scotland is in such a state financially, why are the UK so desperate to hold on to them? The UK is coming other of the EU, so won't need to bail them out.
Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:52 pm
dogfound wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Political Parties and Political Leaders often get slagged off in the media for not doing what is in their Manifesto. The Voters in Scotland gave the SNP the majority in their country, whether you agree with it or not. Whether or not you argee, Scotland voted remain in the EU referendum, should they be taken out of the EU against their will?
Here's the part of the 2016 manifesto of the SNP. Quite clearly says they will be pursuing another referendum within the next parliament... not really a shock is it? Scottish Greens have also said the same.
I ask again, if Scotland is in such a state financially, why are the UK so desperate to hold on to them? The UK is coming other of the EU, so won't need to bail them out.
IF IT IS CLEAR MORE THAN HALF THE COUNTRY WANT INDEPENDENCE.
well in 2014 35% of the country voted for independence.
last year 40% voted remain.
more than half is 1 person more than 50% so where is the evidence.?
i think the 50year old playgroundheads have put a tad more thought into this than legolady
Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:11 pm
dogfound wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Political Parties and Political Leaders often get slagged off in the media for not doing what is in their Manifesto. The Voters in Scotland gave the SNP the majority in their country, whether you agree with it or not. Whether or not you argee, Scotland voted remain in the EU referendum, should they be taken out of the EU against their will?
Here's the part of the 2016 manifesto of the SNP. Quite clearly says they will be pursuing another referendum within the next parliament... not really a shock is it? Scottish Greens have also said the same.
I ask again, if Scotland is in such a state financially, why are the UK so desperate to hold on to them? The UK is coming other of the EU, so won't need to bail them out.
IF IT IS CLEAR MORE THAN HALF THE COUNTRY WANT INDEPENDENCE.
well in 2014 35% of the country voted for independence.
last year 40% voted remain.
more than half is 1 person more than 50% so where is the evidence.?
i think the 50year old playgroundheads have put a tad more thought into this than legolady
Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:20 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:dogfound wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Political Parties and Political Leaders often get slagged off in the media for not doing what is in their Manifesto. The Voters in Scotland gave the SNP the majority in their country, whether you agree with it or not. Whether or not you argee, Scotland voted remain in the EU referendum, should they be taken out of the EU against their will?
Here's the part of the 2016 manifesto of the SNP. Quite clearly says they will be pursuing another referendum within the next parliament... not really a shock is it? Scottish Greens have also said the same.
I ask again, if Scotland is in such a state financially, why are the UK so desperate to hold on to them? The UK is coming other of the EU, so won't need to bail them out.
IF IT IS CLEAR MORE THAN HALF THE COUNTRY WANT INDEPENDENCE.
well in 2014 35% of the country voted for independence.
last year 40% voted remain.
more than half is 1 person more than 50% so where is the evidence.?
i think the 50year old playgroundheads have put a tad more thought into this than legolady
Dodgy ground here.they had a majority when those that could be arsed to vote did so,same as the Brexit vote.The same as any General Election or Local for that matter.Clinton actually beat Trump in the popular vote but Trump got the votes in numbers where it mattered. Doesn't work your way,never has.
Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:36 pm
Jock wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:dogfound wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Political Parties and Political Leaders often get slagged off in the media for not doing what is in their Manifesto. The Voters in Scotland gave the SNP the majority in their country, whether you agree with it or not. Whether or not you argee, Scotland voted remain in the EU referendum, should they be taken out of the EU against their will?
Here's the part of the 2016 manifesto of the SNP. Quite clearly says they will be pursuing another referendum within the next parliament... not really a shock is it? Scottish Greens have also said the same.
I ask again, if Scotland is in such a state financially, why are the UK so desperate to hold on to them? The UK is coming other of the EU, so won't need to bail them out.
IF IT IS CLEAR MORE THAN HALF THE COUNTRY WANT INDEPENDENCE.
well in 2014 35% of the country voted for independence.
last year 40% voted remain.
more than half is 1 person more than 50% so where is the evidence.?
i think the 50year old playgroundheads have put a tad more thought into this than legolady
Dodgy ground here.they had a majority when those that could be arsed to vote did so,same as the Brexit vote.The same as any General Election or Local for that matter.Clinton actually beat Trump in the popular vote but Trump got the votes in numbers where it mattered. Doesn't work your way,never has.
They did not have a majority in the referendum to break up the UK, most Scots don't want another referendum and in Brexit 35% of SNP voters wanted out the EU. He's on solid ground .
Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:39 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:Jock wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:dogfound wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Political Parties and Political Leaders often get slagged off in the media for not doing what is in their Manifesto. The Voters in Scotland gave the SNP the majority in their country, whether you agree with it or not. Whether or not you argee, Scotland voted remain in the EU referendum, should they be taken out of the EU against their will?
Here's the part of the 2016 manifesto of the SNP. Quite clearly says they will be pursuing another referendum within the next parliament... not really a shock is it? Scottish Greens have also said the same.
I ask again, if Scotland is in such a state financially, why are the UK so desperate to hold on to them? The UK is coming other of the EU, so won't need to bail them out.
IF IT IS CLEAR MORE THAN HALF THE COUNTRY WANT INDEPENDENCE.
well in 2014 35% of the country voted for independence.
last year 40% voted remain.
more than half is 1 person more than 50% so where is the evidence.?
i think the 50year old playgroundheads have put a tad more thought into this than legolady
Dodgy ground here.they had a majority when those that could be arsed to vote did so,same as the Brexit vote.The same as any General Election or Local for that matter.Clinton actually beat Trump in the popular vote but Trump got the votes in numbers where it mattered. Doesn't work your way,never has.
They did not have a majority in the referendum to break up the UK, most Scots don't want another referendum and in Brexit 35% of SNP voters wanted out the EU. He's on solid ground .
Jock,I didn't say they did but Scotland has voted in favour of the UK staying in the EU by 62% to 38%(doing yourself out of 3%) - with all 32 council areas backing Remain.Did you forget the 62%The point is even that 62% probably doesn't account for 50% of the voting population.