Sneggyblubird wrote:Fusilier23 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:don't know much about the "troubles" was too young then, however I did recently watch a documentary which stated the British Government allowed the arrest, and imprisonment of anyone and everyone, as the were allowed to skip trials, resulting in hundreds of innocent people being falsey accused of being an IRA terrorist. those they couldn't get, they passed on information and weapons to "unionists" to go execute. there was even a panorama show on the other week "Operation Stakeknife ?" I believe, which stated that the british intelligence had a agent work as the IRA man responsible for torture to get confessions, and that they allowed other agents to be killed by the stakeknife.
again I don't know much about the "troubles" however from everything I have seen both sides did terrible things, even the british who killed numerous innocent people, which undoubtled led to the rise and increase in numbers joining the IRA. however there seems to be a big thing on this forum where, whenever someone commits atrocities or does something wrong, they are branded vile, but if its britian its somehow justified.
the post even states "Accused" terrorists, and from what I gather anyone with an irish accent was an accused terrorist, im pretty sure there have been plenty of people released from jail including 5 guys who were wrongly convincted of terrorism, because the police falsified evidence. and it says who subsequently (quote : after a particular thing has happened; afterwards) so in otherwords, after being arrested, falsey accused, he went and did something, granted it was wrong what he did, but you treat someone a criminal they will be criminal.
now I am still very young, so my views maybe naïve, or branded some form of extreme left blah blah blah, but the truth is, for some reason, there is a HUGE smear campaign against Corbyn, I don't know why, Tony Blair led us into an illegal war, nothing on here about him, Miliband was the most unelectable labour leader in my lifetime, and yet the press left him alone, because they knew he couldn't win, but the moment labours membership numbers swelled under-corbyn, a huge media campaign against him came out.
final point, I don't understand why "Wez" continuously has to brand people who support Corbyn, names and stuff. its pathetic, someones political view is their own, people of this country continuously moan and complain young people aren't involved with politics, don't vote or don't care, when we do we branded "Idiots" etc, why, because finally a politican has got us interested in politics. it just seems pathetic from what is probably a grown man, if you have different political views, fair enough, that's the best thing about democracy we can see things differently.-]
As you have said you are quite young - served in the troubles on a number of different levels. Mistakes made by the government, yes but Corbyn who did not have to attend this or other meeting chose to do so as a SYMPATHISER. We may have interred some innocents but how many "prisoners" did the IRA etc take - none. War is a dirty game and the sooner some people realise that the better.
You have said you've served so respect for that but at the end of the day if it wasn't for some rather unsavory types we'ed still be fighting that particular war.The people on both sides that sanctioned atrocities(and they were on both sides)ultimately had to sit down and talk peace.To do that there were others that facilitated this and the question is was Corbin one of these.As I understand it he was opposed to the troops being their in the first place and was also opposed trials without jury's.I can't for the life of me understand why some of the major politicians of all denominations haven't jumped on this except that maybe that Corbin isn't and never was a terrorist sympathiser.
Corbyn was and is a terrorist sympathiser, as I've already said the SDLP was the Republican Party in Northern Ireland that wanted to achieve a United Ireland by the ballot box, SinnFein/IRA wanted to bomb their way to a United Ireland, Corbyn supported the latter and attacked the SDLP, If your going to post on a topic at least try and get your facts right. The Provos were losing especially in places like Mid Ulster where the LVF were taking out their men, they came round to negotiating because they had to and it had absolutely nothing to do with Corbyn.