Thu May 18, 2017 10:14 am
paulh_85 wrote:Its a nice post, and you keep talking about research but then you say things like thisHowever, in my eyes, you're voting for a party that throws billions at bankers, multi-billion pound corporations, and wars in countries that have no relevance to us.
Is going to war in certain countries exclusive to the tories?
And as for the Working Class voting for the tories, perhaps its because people who are on low/medium paid jobs and work damn hard for it are sick and tired of seeing scroungers, and "career mums" and people who have never worked a day in their life being given money hand over fist"
As an example, there is a small build of about 8 council flats near where i live, one of them has a brand new Audi parked outside, its reasonable that something like that angers people. I have a friend who works in the the council housing business, the number of people who cant afford rent/food but have new iphones is alarming. there is no responsibility of self anymore. People do what they like and expect the state to pick up the tab, and under labour their meal ticket will only get bigger.
Thu May 18, 2017 10:29 am
Thu May 18, 2017 10:41 am
Jonty106 wrote:ZABIER......You are clearly a panicky Left Wing Socialist and Corbyn support. Your socialist dogma is a thing of the past and we've not seen the likes of it since Michael Foot was trounced in 1983. Your attempt to portray yourself as some worldly political centrist by saying you voted Lib Dem because of tuition fees does you no favours as it smacks of a me, me, attitude. But all of this pales into insignificance when you know that a vote for Labour is a vote for Corbyn and his Marxist entourage. Corbyn and his chums are friends to the IRA, Hamas and Hezbollah. They are Communists who will destroy the economy as surely as happened in the Soviet Union Empire and more recently in Venezuela under Chavez (Jeremy's hero). Now, to my knowledge I've never met you and I'm sure if I did we would agree to differ on politics and be on our way and I leave you now disappointed with your views but with no malice. Lets both just hope City are in the top 6 at least next season.
Thu May 18, 2017 10:44 am
Thu May 18, 2017 11:17 am
grange_end1927 wrote:Corbyn changes again
Thu May 18, 2017 11:26 am
wez1927 wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
And that Thatcher lite is a c**t, what's your point?
She was a c**t too but Thatcher was 30 years ago and corbyn is now
Thu May 18, 2017 11:28 am
wez1927 wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:Who would've thought Cardiff City would have so many Tory scum in its ranks, the party that stripped South Wales of any industry and jobs with no backup plan and left us to rot, the party that sent the police to beat our relatives when they dared to strike and the party that stole and profited from selling off our utilities on the cheap. Utter cunts.
The miners strike was 30 years ago move on ffs why hasnt the pits reopened under labour when they were in power ,252 mines closed when labour was in power wheres the outcry? Lets look at our manufacturing industry that has left wales when labour was in power due to eu grants to new eu member countries ? But i forgot its all that thatchers fault isnt it
Thu May 18, 2017 11:31 am
petesmeat wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Corbyn changes again
Theresa May can't even eat chips. Not that it matters of course, what matters is that she's a nasty, selfish, careerist who only cares about herself and her mates. Look at this for instance.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/ju ... ening-them
She's the party for working people, as long as she means they work for her and that's about it.
Here, have a look at her voting record. It isn't pretty.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426 ... head/votes
But Brexit, hey, that's all that matters. Doesn't matter that Corbyn is for it, and that May campaigned for remain, all that matters is that we get out and the Tories are the only party to deliver it.
Thu May 18, 2017 12:06 pm
wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
Thu May 18, 2017 12:18 pm
BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
It isn't hard to see you're constantly attacked on this forum Wez. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you that would lead anyone to believe you're an educated adult. Honestly. Complete idiot.
Tell me why Corbyn's a scumbag? also what was he protesting against here?
I know you only seem to understand layman's terms, so I'm happy for you to answer in the simplest way you can.
Thu May 18, 2017 12:23 pm
wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
It isn't hard to see you're constantly attacked on this forum Wez. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you that would lead anyone to believe you're an educated adult. Honestly. Complete idiot.
Tell me why Corbyn's a scumbag? also what was he protesting against here?
I know you only seem to understand layman's terms, so I'm happy for you to answer in the simplest way you can.
I bow down to you're superior intellect compared to mine, so in layman's terms he supports terroist organisation the facts are there to see ,simple pimple
Thu May 18, 2017 12:47 pm
Thu May 18, 2017 1:46 pm
CF14-SE14 wrote:Wez is yet to work out what facts are
Thu May 18, 2017 1:50 pm
BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
It isn't hard to see you're constantly attacked on this forum Wez. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you that would lead anyone to believe you're an educated adult. Honestly. Complete idiot.
Tell me why Corbyn's a scumbag? also what was he protesting against here?
I know you only seem to understand layman's terms, so I'm happy for you to answer in the simplest way you can.
I bow down to you're superior intellect compared to mine, so in layman's terms he supports terroist organisation the facts are there to see ,simple pimple
Facts ey? Let's have them.
Thu May 18, 2017 1:56 pm
wez1927 wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:Wez is yet to work out what facts are
Been shopping
Thu May 18, 2017 2:06 pm
Thu May 18, 2017 2:15 pm
Polo. wrote:wez1927 wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:Wez is yet to work out what facts are
Been shopping
Wez mate you certainly got some of the morons on here biting
Thu May 18, 2017 2:47 pm
Zabier wrote:Right, I'm just going to post my insignificant two cents because there's a fair bit of hostility which isn't uncommon in political threads. Please take the time to read what I am about to say because hopefully it is something you can all relate to. I'm not here to name call, slate people for their views, or what not. I am here to explain why I feel the way I do but I also want to find out why others are voting the way they do. A few people's views do confuse me but that's why I want to hear more from them. Not simply slam their stance.
Throughout my life, I've been a bit of a swing voter. I've never voted Conservative but that's because their policies have never been of great benefit to me compared to the other parties. In university, I voted Liberal Democrat due to the tuition fees pledge (yes, they really fucked us there!), I've previously voted Plaid Cymru because I've felt they have been the best option locally where I lived at the time, and I'm now swaying towards Labour. Why? For the first time in my life this is a Labour that is actually offering something I feel the majority would benefit from. The criticisms the manifesto has received leaves me scratching my head. Where will the money come from? If the read the manifesto it explains that. It worries me that the same questions weren't asked when the Tories committed so many billions to Brexit, renewing Trident, and constructing a nuclear power station at Hinckley. Yes, all very important issues but are they more important than our very people and the well being of everyone around us?
Two things that really annoy me. Firstly, those that do not even turn up to vote and then moan about politics. Not turning up is the ultimate sign of disrespect to those that sacrificed so much for us to have the freedom to vote. So you don't agree with any party? Spoil your voting sheet. Not turning up is just laziness. Dress it up as you will. That's what it is. Can't make voting day? Send your vote off early. There is literally no excuse. You're disillusioned with politics that much? Run as an independent. Stop making excuses for being apathetic. It's a disease this country is suffering from.
Secondly, it's people who vote blindly. I'm not just talking people that vote a particular party. It annoys me just as much that somebody can vote Tory without reading into the manifesto and facts as it does someone voting Labour without knowing why. Do your research. Yes, it's boring as f**k. It's our responsibility as free living citizens to make an educated choice in voting for the right candidates. No, that's not being forced into it. It's not fascist. It's being responsible and grateful for the freedom we have to vote.
Anyway, that's my rant over. Here is where I want to know more. As I said, I am voting Labour so view my stance as slightly biased or influence. I've not relied on the media to get my view. I've looked at all the manifestos. No, I don't agree with all the Labour manifesto but it is arguably the most positive and progressive I have ever seen.
What puzzles me is those of you who are voting Tory when you a) say you want Brexit to be done and dusted and b) you class yourself as part of the working class. Firstly, as has been stated, Jeremy Corbyn wanted to leave the EU. The manifesto has stated it has accepted the result. Who is likely to get a better deal from Brexit? The woman who has already threatened war with Spain over Gibraltar and is at logger heads with her EU counterparts? Or the man who has an amicable nature, has expressed sympathy towards those in the EU, and is keen to work more rationally with the EU over Brexit?
As for working class people voting Tory, why? If you earn less than £25,000 a year there is no logical reason to do it from what I can see. As I said, I am willing to listen and be proved wrong. However, in my eyes, you're voting for a party that throws billions at bankers, multi-billion pound corporations, and wars in countries that have no relevance to us. Yet, they have been proven to be privatising the NHS so within 10-15 years healthcare will no longer be free, zero hour contracts are encouraged, and a general neglect towards anyone outside the top 1% is rife.
I will end by asking just one thing. Whether you're left, right, or centre. Put down the paper. Turn off the TV. We live in a country that is as manipulated by propaganda as Germany was in the early 1930s. Look how often publications have to apologise for incorrect articles or features that openly lie. Ignore the media. Find the facts for yourself. Look at all the parties. Don't believe the shit that the Daily Mail, Sun, Guardian or whoever puts out.
I know that come the election it's likely the Conservatives will win. Too many people are too lazy to do their own research. Too many people buy the "strong and stable" bull shit. Do your research and look at what Theresa May's words and actions say. She is anything but strong and stable. She's a vicar's daughter from a life of privilege on a power trip with no care for the masses she is representing and no consideration for the fall out of her actions.
Even so, if the Tories get in and it's because people voted for them after doing their research and it's a high turn out then fair enough. My vote wouldn't have gotten in but that's democracy. I voted Remain in Brexit. That didn't happen. It's done. However, I will be appalled if people blindly vote for a party without doing research or without understanding why they are voting a certain way. Yes, Jeremy Corbyn, Leanne Wood, or whoever. None of them are perfect. Does that matter? For years, people have craved genuine change in politics. It comes along in this Labour manifesto and people are too scared to believe it might actually work for the majority. The elite in charge of the media will do everything they can to slate the manifesto. Why? Because it attacks them. It damages their wealth. They do not want you to benefit from their loss. Even though you deserve it.
Come voting day, just do yourself justice and understand what you're voting for. What you're truly voting for. Are you willing to sacrifice your health, finances, and job prospects for a particular policy? Or do you want to benefit from the bigger picture? I think we live in a society that has become so used to things being as they are that people are too afraid to believe we deserve better. We do deserve better.
Thu May 18, 2017 3:07 pm
BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
It isn't hard to see you're constantly attacked on this forum Wez. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you that would lead anyone to believe you're an educated adult. Honestly. Complete idiot.
Tell me why Corbyn's a scumbag? also what was he protesting against here?
I know you only seem to understand layman's terms, so I'm happy for you to answer in the simplest way you can.
Thu May 18, 2017 3:32 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
It isn't hard to see you're constantly attacked on this forum Wez. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you that would lead anyone to believe you're an educated adult. Honestly. Complete idiot.
Tell me why Corbyn's a scumbag? also what was he protesting against here?
I know you only seem to understand layman's terms, so I'm happy for you to answer in the simplest way you can.
Love the way Wez is attacked and called an idiot for sharing the views of the majority of British people. Before having a go at him, check the polls and betting odds. Or are the majority of British people stupid, and it is only the minority who are Corbyn supporters who know what they are talking about. Even many of his own MP's don't share his views. Personally, I would'nt call a Labour voter thick, they believe in what Labour has to offer and that is fair enough. At the minute, more people including myself believe the Tory party are better for the country, but I won't lose any sleep if Labour win because I know that just the same as every election I have voted in for the last 45 years, I will not see any huge changes to my standard of living one way or the other. Wez is entitled to his views and opinions,(I don't share many of his football opinions) and if he was all for a party that was polling half a per cent like the Loony party, well perhaps he could be called slightly mad. Being with the majority suggests it may not be him who is most out of touch. Everyone is entitled to support whoever they wish, and whoever wins will not have a massive impact on the average man in the street.
Thu May 18, 2017 3:55 pm
wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
It isn't hard to see you're constantly attacked on this forum Wez. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you that would lead anyone to believe you're an educated adult. Honestly. Complete idiot.
Tell me why Corbyn's a scumbag? also what was he protesting against here?
I know you only seem to understand layman's terms, so I'm happy for you to answer in the simplest way you can.
I bow down to you're superior intellect compared to mine, so in layman's terms he supports terroist organisation the facts are there to see ,simple pimple
Facts ey? Let's have them.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jere ... -gd3tnhmrt
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05 ... and-hezbo/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -argentina
Thu May 18, 2017 3:59 pm
BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
It isn't hard to see you're constantly attacked on this forum Wez. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you that would lead anyone to believe you're an educated adult. Honestly. Complete idiot.
Tell me why Corbyn's a scumbag? also what was he protesting against here?
I know you only seem to understand layman's terms, so I'm happy for you to answer in the simplest way you can.
I bow down to you're superior intellect compared to mine, so in layman's terms he supports terroist organisation the facts are there to see ,simple pimple
Facts ey? Let's have them.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jere ... -gd3tnhmrt
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05 ... and-hezbo/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -argentina
Not what I asked for but okay. The first is relating to a protest for fair trial, not inciting terrorism. Between the 1970's & the 1990's, they were all at it behind closed doors. Secret meetings with the IRA. Everything Corbyn did was out in the open & honest.
http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk ... -wing.html
In regards to the Falklands, Corbyn's always made it clear that there should be a fair shared ownership of the Falklands, and in classic British fashion, we want it all.
Fair play to the Tories mind. They aren't the first political party through the ages to use the media to fuel propaganda.
Keep feeding on what they put down your throat mate. They base their whole campaign on idiots like you swallowing their shit.
Also, your grammar, and your spelling is awful. I'm sure you're already aware.
Thu May 18, 2017 4:05 pm
BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
It isn't hard to see you're constantly attacked on this forum Wez. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you that would lead anyone to believe you're an educated adult. Honestly. Complete idiot.
Tell me why Corbyn's a scumbag? also what was he protesting against here?
I know you only seem to understand layman's terms, so I'm happy for you to answer in the simplest way you can.
I bow down to you're superior intellect compared to mine, so in layman's terms he supports terroist organisation the facts are there to see ,simple pimple
Facts ey? Let's have them.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jere ... -gd3tnhmrt
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05 ... and-hezbo/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -argentina
Not what I asked for but okay. The first is relating to a protest for fair trial, not inciting terrorism. Between the 1970's & the 1990's, they were all at it behind closed doors. Secret meetings with the IRA. Everything Corbyn did was out in the open & honest.
http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk ... -wing.html
In regards to the Falklands, Corbyn's always made it clear that there should be a fair shared ownership of the Falklands, and in classic British fashion, we want it all.
Fair play to the Tories mind. They aren't the first political party through the ages to use the media to fuel propaganda.
Keep feeding on what they put down your throat mate. They base their whole campaign on idiots like you swallowing their shit.
Also, your grammar, and your spelling is awful. I'm sure you're already aware.
Thu May 18, 2017 4:23 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:BlueDredd wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn was arrested at IRA demo
by Andrew Gilligan
May 14 2017,
The Sunday Times
Jeremy Corbyn was a firebrand protester in the 1980s
Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to “show solidarity” with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals.
Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the “show trial” of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference.
Magee was also convicted with the other defendants of planning a massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.
He is a scumbag
It isn't hard to see you're constantly attacked on this forum Wez. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you that would lead anyone to believe you're an educated adult. Honestly. Complete idiot.
Tell me why Corbyn's a scumbag? also what was he protesting against here?
I know you only seem to understand layman's terms, so I'm happy for you to answer in the simplest way you can.
I bow down to you're superior intellect compared to mine, so in layman's terms he supports terroist organisation the facts are there to see ,simple pimple
Facts ey? Let's have them.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jere ... -gd3tnhmrt
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05 ... and-hezbo/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -argentina
Not what I asked for but okay. The first is relating to a protest for fair trial, not inciting terrorism. Between the 1970's & the 1990's, they were all at it behind closed doors. Secret meetings with the IRA. Everything Corbyn did was out in the open & honest.
http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk ... -wing.html
In regards to the Falklands, Corbyn's always made it clear that there should be a fair shared ownership of the Falklands, and in classic British fashion, we want it all.
Fair play to the Tories mind. They aren't the first political party through the ages to use the media to fuel propaganda.
Keep feeding on what they put down your throat mate. They base their whole campaign on idiots like you swallowing their shit.
Also, your grammar, and your spelling is awful. I'm sure you're already aware.
Ever thought what the Falkland Islanders themselves want?
Thu May 18, 2017 4:24 pm
Thu May 18, 2017 4:34 pm
Thu May 18, 2017 4:41 pm
Zabier wrote:BlueDredd, you're right. So many people just believing the propaganda of the right wing press. Keep on believing what the rich elite that own the papers want you to think. It's not like they would have anything to lose if Labour won right?
This argument that the majority are right doesn't wash either. The majority of Germany backed the Nazi Party in the 1930s. It doesn't mean they were right. I'm sure in retrospect they regret that. They simply fell victim to nationalist propaganda.
Also, this term loony lefty. It's a token insult thrown at people who simply believe society deserves better. I don't understand slating people for that. It's doesn't make sense. You're having a go at us for arguing that you deserve to have a better life! Do you see the madness in your stance?
I'll hedge my bet that the vast majority of you lot voting Conservative who earn less than £25k a year read The Daily Mail, Daily Express or The Sun. You won't admit it, that's fair enough. I bet that's true though.
I repeat my earlier sentiments. Where is the logic in backing a party that is inherently against lower earning individuals? Theresa May says the Tories are the party for workers rights? How? They want to scrap the unions, continue zero hour contracts, and May even voted against introducing new workers rights. She says the Tories are the party to deliver Brexit. She doesn't even want it!
I will also add, the bottom line, and this should be the most important issue of all is that the Tories are going to privatise the NHS. Surely, above the personality of Jeremy Corbyn or the different manifestos offered by all parties, that should be the most important concern. They are literally willing to put a price on your health, and even your life. If you're OK with that then by all means, vote Conservative.
Basically, I'll end my view with this. I, and others, are simply arguing against a party that hates those of us that earn less than £25k. There are a percentage of you on here that are then arguing against us for arguing in favour of you being treated better. Yet we are then called the loony lefties? You couldn't make it up!
Thu May 18, 2017 4:46 pm
Zabier wrote:BlueDredd, you're right. So many people just believing the propaganda of the right wing press. Keep on believing what the rich elite that own the papers want you to think. It's not like they would have anything to lose if Labour won right?
This argument that the majority are right doesn't wash either. The majority of Germany backed the Nazi Party in the 1930s. It doesn't mean they were right. I'm sure in retrospect they regret that. They simply fell victim to nationalist propaganda.
Also, this term loony lefty. It's a token insult thrown at people who simply believe society deserves better. I don't understand slating people for that. It's doesn't make sense. You're having a go at us for arguing that you deserve to have a better life! Do you see the madness in your stance?
I'll hedge my bet that the vast majority of you lot voting Conservative who earn less than £25k a year read The Daily Mail, Daily Express or The Sun. You won't admit it, that's fair enough. I bet that's true though.
I repeat my earlier sentiments. Where is the logic in backing a party that is inherently against lower earning individuals? Theresa May says the Tories are the party for workers rights? How? They want to scrap the unions, continue zero hour contracts, and May even voted against introducing new workers rights. She says the Tories are the party to deliver Brexit. She doesn't even want it!
I will also add, the bottom line, and this should be the most important issue of all is that the Tories are going to privatise the NHS. Surely, above the personality of Jeremy Corbyn or the different manifestos offered by all parties, that should be the most important concern. They are literally willing to put a price on your health, and even your life. If you're OK with that then by all means, vote Conservative.
Basically, I'll end my view with this. I, and others, are simply arguing against a party that hates those of us that earn less than £25k. There are a percentage of you on here that are then arguing against us for arguing in favour of you being treated better. Yet we are then called the loony lefties? You couldn't make it up!
Thu May 18, 2017 5:00 pm
Thu May 18, 2017 5:08 pm