Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:04 am
Ebbw Blue wrote:davids wrote:Ebbw Blue wrote:No I will not welcome him back. People need to remember the amount of debt we are carrying is down to Tan.
I must have forgotten what a well run, debt free club we were before Tan arrived!
Did I say the club was well run previously, can you please show where I said that. I was just stating a fact that the club under Tan as carried more debt than ever before
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:07 am
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:09 am
davids wrote:Ebbw Blue wrote:davids wrote:Ebbw Blue wrote:No I will not welcome him back. People need to remember the amount of debt we are carrying is down to Tan.
I must have forgotten what a well run, debt free club we were before Tan arrived!
Did I say the club was well run previously, can you please show where I said that. I was just stating a fact that the club under Tan as carried more debt than ever before
You said that the amount of debt we are carrying "is down to Tan" which is clearly wrong. We had millions of pounds of debt when Tan took over.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:09 am
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:20 am
Nickoblue23 wrote:We might have been Cardiff City AFC in the Welsh league though!! Im not saying Tan is a saviour I'm just saying to justify your argument you have to balance the positive - the negative influence he's had. The rebrand was a terrible negative which is showed by this debate now!!! The way I look at it is I've forgiven the rebrand and I'm willing to give him my support based on his actions today and over the past year in admitting his mistakes and backing our Manager!! It's going to be an exciting year and I can't wait!!!
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:21 am
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:23 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Nickoblue23 wrote:We might have been Cardiff City AFC in the Welsh league though!! Im not saying Tan is a saviour I'm just saying to justify your argument you have to balance the positive - the negative influence he's had. The rebrand was a terrible negative which is showed by this debate now!!! The way I look at it is I've forgiven the rebrand and I'm willing to give him my support based on his actions today and over the past year in admitting his mistakes and backing our Manager!! It's going to be an exciting year and I can't wait!!!
That was the real scare factor threatening to align us with the Welsh league. However and I strongly believe this is that would have never happened regardless of what solvency we went through. If Merthyr can keep their status I'm pretty sure we could have done.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:27 am
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:32 am
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:36 am
nubbsy wrote:He's making up for his wrong doings, but probably more to recoup and level out his losses than his love for the club. He tore the soul from this club and spoke about that'5%' like we we were expendable. He was wrong. We were here before and we'll be here after he goes.
That being said the club is being run well and he's paying the debt off, so I'm happy with how he's doing things now and I'd prefer it if it stayed that way. he should stay in Malaysia and leave the club to the Dalman and choo.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:38 am
Ebbw Blue wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Nickoblue23 wrote:We might have been Cardiff City AFC in the Welsh league though!! Im not saying Tan is a saviour I'm just saying to justify your argument you have to balance the positive - the negative influence he's had. The rebrand was a terrible negative which is showed by this debate now!!! The way I look at it is I've forgiven the rebrand and I'm willing to give him my support based on his actions today and over the past year in admitting his mistakes and backing our Manager!! It's going to be an exciting year and I can't wait!!!
That was the real scare factor threatening to align us with the Welsh league. However and I strongly believe this is that would have never happened regardless of what solvency we went through. If Merthyr can keep their status I'm pretty sure we could have done.
Totally agree the Welsh league issue was just scare tactics that some people bought into. It would never have happened.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:38 am
Ebbw Blue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Like most people on here I will never be able to totally forgive Tan for his ridiculous rebrand decision.
However, with the buzz back at the City, and everyone players, management and fans pulling together, is it time for Vinnie to start attending games again???
Will he be welcomed back by most of the city fans???
I personally will never forgive or forget what he done. He turned fans against each other and showed a total disrespect to the fans of our club.
The best solution for all parties is Tan to sell the club and cut all ties with the club.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:42 am
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:44 am
Forever Blue wrote:Reply from Facebook
Hywel Evans
No fucker will forgive him for what he did and I don't blame them but what irritates me most is him complaining Marshall not scoring enough goals. A f*cking goalkeeper like the clueless mug. Clearly doesn't know f*cking anything about the sport or the club and he knows damn well that the fans do not like him at all. He may as well just sell the club like many have said and f**k off home.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:45 am
Jules wrote:So you not going to be waving your little Malaysian flag anytime soon then Annis ?
NOW BEFORE THE HATE MOB GET ON MY BACK ' THIS IS A JOKE' which I hope Annis will see as just that.
trying to lighten the mood
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:47 am
Forever Blue wrote:Reply from Facebook
Lauren Ann McNie
The sooner we can cut ties with that man, the better. Things have been a lot more positive with his limited involvement. I will never welcome him back... and I still want an apology from him for the rebrand and the total disrespect he showed the club and the fans.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:49 am
Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:50 am
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:14 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Reply from Facebook
Lauren Ann McNie
The sooner we can cut ties with that man, the better. Things have been a lot more positive with his limited involvement. I will never welcome him back... and I still want an apology from him for the rebrand and the total disrespect he showed the club and the fans.
His limited involvement still includes him putting a million a month into the club and writing off a few million pounds worth of debt....limited involvement ha ha
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:20 pm
Man of Harlech wrote:dogfound wrote:Ebbw Blue wrote:No I will not welcome him back. People need to remember the amount of debt we are carrying is down to Tan.
he was prepared to drop the rebrand and not invest the 100 million.was then convinced by others that the original anti rebrand outbursts was knee jerk reaction and given the choice investment /possible sucess was wanted..and lets face it how many demanded their ST money back like the club offered.?..were crowds effected by the rebrand..?..and where were the imediate on going daily protests at the club..youd get more resistence if asda cafe took beans off the cafe menu is truth.
lots of people decided to take a stance AFTER he spent his loot
so it could be argued that our fans at the time were equally resposible, besides when he does leave the debt will either leave with him or not matter to the new owner...and it hasnt stopped us signing players.
Dogfound you are absolutely right but you are wasting your time. You can keep telling the truth until you are blue in the face but some, like Blue Ebbw, would rather wallow in their ignorant hatred. I do wonder whether such people were around when we were wondering from week to week whether the club would survive another, or when we were so badly funded that supporters had to finance the acquisition of players of the quality of Nogan,
Nomatter what the moaners may wish to believe Tan continues to bankroll this club and I would personally have
him back rather that listen to the continual moaning by such negative influences.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:22 pm
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:25 pm
Fergy1927 wrote:It's weird. I felt like part of a tiny minority opposing Tan and the rebrand at the time like a few of us on here.
I really get the feeling that it's unusual how many are openly anti rebrand now. I'm not pointing fingers at people in this thread but I really feel it doesn't add up. Brighton home was 95% red scarves.
Call me a tw*t but I feel many people went against Tan and the rebrand once we were relegation bound.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:32 pm
Fergy1927 wrote:It's weird. I felt like part of a tiny minority opposing Tan and the rebrand at the time like a few of us on here.
I really get the feeling that it's unusual how many are openly anti rebrand now. I'm not pointing fingers at people in this thread but I really feel it doesn't add up. Brighton home was 95% red scarves.
Call me a tw*t but I feel many people went against Tan and the rebrand once we were relegation bound.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:36 pm
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:41 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Fergy1927 wrote:It's weird. I felt like part of a tiny minority opposing Tan and the rebrand at the time like a few of us on here.
I really get the feeling that it's unusual how many are openly anti rebrand now. I'm not pointing fingers at people in this thread but I really feel it doesn't add up. Brighton home was 95% red scarves.
Call me a tw*t but I feel many people went against Tan and the rebrand once we were relegation bound.
Your 100% right many did.
That night v Brighton, I walked out after 30 mins feeling sick , I even thought of never returning, but instead I thought NO, I am not going to let him/them destroy our identity/history and the next game 10 of us incl my oldest daughter and myself returned wearing BLUE in the Ninian Stand and we kept standing up singing "We are Cardiff City We Will Always Be Blue " We were looked at like we were aliens and away fans, as each game passed there eventually became about 100 of us,which grew to 400 odd.
Sadly I know hundreds who never returned.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:46 pm
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:54 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Fergy1927 wrote:It's weird. I felt like part of a tiny minority opposing Tan and the rebrand at the time like a few of us on here.
I really get the feeling that it's unusual how many are openly anti rebrand now. I'm not pointing fingers at people in this thread but I really feel it doesn't add up. Brighton home was 95% red scarves.
Call me a tw*t but I feel many people went against Tan and the rebrand once we were relegation bound.
Your 100% right many did.
That night v Brighton, I walked out after 30 mins feeling sick , I even thought of never returning, but instead I thought NO, I am not going to let him/them destroy our identity/history and the next game 10 of us incl my oldest daughter and myself returned wearing BLUE in the Ninian Stand and we kept standing up singing "We are Cardiff City We Will Always Be Blue " We were looked at like we were aliens and away fans, as each game passed there eventually became about 100 of us,which grew to 400 odd.
Sadly I know hundreds who never returned.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:57 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Fergy1927 wrote:It's weird. I felt like part of a tiny minority opposing Tan and the rebrand at the time like a few of us on here.
I really get the feeling that it's unusual how many are openly anti rebrand now. I'm not pointing fingers at people in this thread but I really feel it doesn't add up. Brighton home was 95% red scarves.
Call me a tw*t but I feel many people went against Tan and the rebrand once we were relegation bound.
Your 100% right many did.
That night v Brighton, I walked out after 30 mins feeling sick , I even thought of never returning, but instead I thought NO, I am not going to let him/them destroy our identity/history and the next game 10 of us incl my oldest daughter and myself returned wearing BLUE in the Ninian Stand and we kept standing up singing "We are Cardiff City We Will Always Be Blue " We were looked at like we were aliens and away fans, as each game passed there eventually became about 100 of us,which grew to 400 odd. :bluebird
Sadly I know hundreds who never returned.
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:58 pm
Ebbw Blue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Fergy1927 wrote:It's weird. I felt like part of a tiny minority opposing Tan and the rebrand at the time like a few of us on here.
I really get the feeling that it's unusual how many are openly anti rebrand now. I'm not pointing fingers at people in this thread but I really feel it doesn't add up. Brighton home was 95% red scarves.
Call me a tw*t but I feel many people went against Tan and the rebrand once we were relegation bound.
Your 100% right many did.
That night v Brighton, I walked out after 30 mins feeling sick , I even thought of never returning, but instead I thought NO, I am not going to let him/them destroy our identity/history and the next game 10 of us incl my oldest daughter and myself returned wearing BLUE in the Ninian Stand and we kept standing up singing "We are Cardiff City We Will Always Be Blue " We were looked at like we were aliens and away fans, as each game passed there eventually became about 100 of us,which grew to 400 odd.
Sadly I know hundreds who never returned.
That night against Brighton was the worst day ever following City. I wore a blue Cardiff scarf to the game and refused to take a red scarf. A steward told me if I was a fan I would take a scarf. It took all my will power not to retaliate. Luckily I was older and wiser when it happened
Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:59 pm
dogfound wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Fergy1927 wrote:It's weird. I felt like part of a tiny minority opposing Tan and the rebrand at the time like a few of us on here.
I really get the feeling that it's unusual how many are openly anti rebrand now. I'm not pointing fingers at people in this thread but I really feel it doesn't add up. Brighton home was 95% red scarves.
Call me a tw*t but I feel many people went against Tan and the rebrand once we were relegation bound.
Your 100% right many did.
That night v Brighton, I walked out after 30 mins feeling sick , I even thought of never returning, but instead I thought NO, I am not going to let him/them destroy our identity/history and the next game 10 of us incl my oldest daughter and myself returned wearing BLUE in the Ninian Stand and we kept standing up singing "We are Cardiff City We Will Always Be Blue " We were looked at like we were aliens and away fans, as each game passed there eventually became about 100 of us,which grew to 400 odd.
Sadly I know hundreds who never returned.
i agree mate...10 of you rising to 400....there were others in different parts of the ground {a small minority it has to be said } who like myself always wore blue before,during and after the brighton game... but i will never hate Tan.
how on earth can you blame one man for you feeling alien in your home ground...when our fan base all to different degrees might have preffered Blue BUT accepted the Red with the investment.
i supose its easier to blame some Malaysian bloke than 20k faceless fans.