Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:19 am
Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:19 am
maccydee wrote:dogfound wrote:maccydee wrote:Leon1927 wrote:We have to win both games. A draw against Ireland won't be enough so I don't understand your logic?
Had we drawn tonight we would be a point behind Ireland. Providing we both win our next game we would still be a point behind Ireland going into our last game. This would mean we would set up needing to win Ireland would need a draw to secure 2nd place. I think that would be our best chance of getting a win. Now we are ahead of Ireland we will go into the last game (providing we both win our next fixtures) only needing a draw to secure 2nd place. That can be a hard spot to be in. Of course it could work for us in that Ireland would need to attack and might leave space.
no..we wont need a draw we need a win to not finish bottom of the runners up table
The result against Moldova had no factor on the play off table.
Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:29 am
bluebird66 wrote:I could be wrong but I've worked it out as follows..
If Bosnia fail to win both of their final games , one of which is against Belgium and we win both our games then we qualify for play offs.
I know Greece are still in the picture but they can only achieve a maximum of 13 points when taking into account results against bottom placed team.
In my opinion the Bosnia v Belgium game is key for us in terms of knowing exactly what is needed.
Easier said than done I know , but if we win our last 2 games it should be enough.
Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:41 am
Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:48 am
ealing_ayatollah wrote:Given UEFA is arguably the most competetive federation couldnt they have allocated an extra space for a european team and let the runner up with the highest points tally qualify automatically and the other 8 go into play-offs rather than this ridiculous nonsense?
Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:04 am
paulh_85 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:Given UEFA is arguably the most competetive federation couldnt they have allocated an extra space for a european team and let the runner up with the highest points tally qualify automatically and the other 8 go into play-offs rather than this ridiculous nonsense?
why should they ?
perhaps instead UEFA should ensure theres only 8 groups by making the minnows like kosovo, gibraltar malta and andorra pre qualify
Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:10 am
dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:Given UEFA is arguably the most competetive federation couldnt they have allocated an extra space for a european team and let the runner up with the highest points tally qualify automatically and the other 8 go into play-offs rather than this ridiculous nonsense?
why should they ?
perhaps instead UEFA should ensure theres only 8 groups by making the minnows like kosovo, gibraltar malta and andorra pre qualify
9 winners plus the 4 winners of play off games = 13
8 group winners plus 4 winners of play offs = 12...where would the 13th team come from?
Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:11 am
Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:39 am
Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:45 am
maccydee wrote:So it is widely acknowledged we need to win all our remaining games to finish 2nd.
Therefore my point is right. A draw last night wouldn't have mattered one iota.
Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:51 am
paulh_85 wrote:maccydee wrote:So it is widely acknowledged we need to win all our remaining games to finish 2nd.
Therefore my point is right. A draw last night wouldn't have mattered one iota.
so your point is incorrect then isnt it?
because if it doesnt matter then its also not "better"
Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:20 pm
paulh_85 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:Given UEFA is arguably the most competetive federation couldnt they have allocated an extra space for a european team and let the runner up with the highest points tally qualify automatically and the other 8 go into play-offs rather than this ridiculous nonsense?
why should they ?
perhaps instead UEFA should ensure theres only 8 groups by making the minnows like kosovo, gibraltar malta and andorra pre qualify
Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:38 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:paulh_85 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:Given UEFA is arguably the most competetive federation couldnt they have allocated an extra space for a european team and let the runner up with the highest points tally qualify automatically and the other 8 go into play-offs rather than this ridiculous nonsense?
why should they ?
perhaps instead UEFA should ensure theres only 8 groups by making the minnows like kosovo, gibraltar malta and andorra pre qualify
White privelage
no seriously (and i was taking the piss before anyone gets all libtard on me) you make a perfectly valid point.
Its just a completely crap system when a side finishes second in the group and still fails to make a playoff.
Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:27 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:paulh_85 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:Given UEFA is arguably the most competetive federation couldnt they have allocated an extra space for a european team and let the runner up with the highest points tally qualify automatically and the other 8 go into play-offs rather than this ridiculous nonsense?
why should they ?
perhaps instead UEFA should ensure theres only 8 groups by making the minnows like kosovo, gibraltar malta and andorra pre qualify
White privelage
no seriously (and i was taking the piss before anyone gets all libtard on me) you make a perfectly valid point.
Its just a completely crap system when a side finishes second in the group and still fails to make a playoff.
Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:50 pm