Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:02 pm
Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:14 am
Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:42 am
mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:50 am
scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:29 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:34 am
Sam_89 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Agree with C. Young lad who was nowhere near the mark at that time. Never worth 8m 5 years ago. Nothing ti do with not liking malky or judging him on 200 minutes haha
Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:41 am
scott_w_ccfc wrote:Sam_89 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Agree with C. Young lad who was nowhere near the mark at that time. Never worth 8m 5 years ago. Nothing ti do with not liking malky or judging him on 200 minutes haha
So what are you basing that on then if not a few substitue appearances for us?
Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:25 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:36 am
scott_w_ccfc wrote:Sam_89 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Agree with C. Young lad who was nowhere near the mark at that time. Never worth 8m 5 years ago. Nothing ti do with not liking malky or judging him on 200 minutes haha
So what are you basing that on then if not a few substitue appearances for us?
Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:16 am
piledriver64 wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:Sam_89 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Agree with C. Young lad who was nowhere near the mark at that time. Never worth 8m 5 years ago. Nothing ti do with not liking malky or judging him on 200 minutes haha
So what are you basing that on then if not a few substitue appearances for us?
Plus the fact that the man who paid all that money wouldn't play him either
The point was never that he would never make it, it was the fact that Malky spent a fortune on a striker (which everyone needs in the Prem) that wasn't ready to play at that level.
Nobody moaned about the money spent on Medel because he came into out first team and was immediatey our best player, and we made most of our money back when he was subsequently sold. Even Caulker with all his problems made an immediate impact (he was even top scorer for a while !!).
Dress it up how you like but for a newly promoted club to spend invest all of their goalscoring hopes (and large proportion of their transfer budget) in a "project" was a critical error.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:56 am
Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:39 am
mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:26 pm
Sam_89 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Agree with C. Young lad who was nowhere near the mark at that time. Never worth 8m 5 years ago. Nothing ti do with not liking malky or judging him on 200 minutes haha
Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:32 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Sam_89 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Agree with C. Young lad who was nowhere near the mark at that time. Never worth 8m 5 years ago. Nothing ti do with not liking malky or judging him on 200 minutes haha
Bit of perspective on him it was understood at time that 500k was his valuation by another club! Where 8m price tag for us came from one must question ? Hence legal action now concerning payments for some players!
Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:33 pm
scott_w_ccfc wrote:piledriver64 wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:Sam_89 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Agree with C. Young lad who was nowhere near the mark at that time. Never worth 8m 5 years ago. Nothing ti do with not liking malky or judging him on 200 minutes haha
So what are you basing that on then if not a few substitue appearances for us?
Plus the fact that the man who paid all that money wouldn't play him either
The point was never that he would never make it, it was the fact that Malky spent a fortune on a striker (which everyone needs in the Prem) that wasn't ready to play at that level.
Nobody moaned about the money spent on Medel because he came into out first team and was immediatey our best player, and we made most of our money back when he was subsequently sold. Even Caulker with all his problems made an immediate impact (he was even top scorer for a while !!).
Dress it up how you like but for a newly promoted club to spend invest all of their goalscoring hopes (and large proportion of their transfer budget) in a "project" was a critical error.
I fear we could go round in circles with this debate and it's been done to death, but even if I did agree with your point (which I don't) it would be a lot more valid if we were having a disaster of a season and Malky had wasted our whole budget.
We weren't, and he didn't.
We were not in the bottom 3 and we still had a squad capable of surviving under him. There's nothing to say Cornelius couldn't have come good that season, most foreign players take a few months to settle and adapt.
Then again he may not have, we'll never know. A few half-fit substitute appearances is certainly not enough to judge either way.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:41 pm
dogfound wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:piledriver64 wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:Sam_89 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Agree with C. Young lad who was nowhere near the mark at that time. Never worth 8m 5 years ago. Nothing ti do with not liking malky or judging him on 200 minutes haha
So what are you basing that on then if not a few substitue appearances for us?
Plus the fact that the man who paid all that money wouldn't play him either
The point was never that he would never make it, it was the fact that Malky spent a fortune on a striker (which everyone needs in the Prem) that wasn't ready to play at that level.
Nobody moaned about the money spent on Medel because he came into out first team and was immediatey our best player, and we made most of our money back when he was subsequently sold. Even Caulker with all his problems made an immediate impact (he was even top scorer for a while !!).
Dress it up how you like but for a newly promoted club to spend invest all of their goalscoring hopes (and large proportion of their transfer budget) in a "project" was a critical error.
I fear we could go round in circles with this debate and it's been done to death, but even if I did agree with your point (which I don't) it would be a lot more valid if we were having a disaster of a season and Malky had wasted our whole budget.
We weren't, and he didn't.
We were not in the bottom 3 and we still had a squad capable of surviving under him. There's nothing to say Cornelius couldn't have come good that season, most foreign players take a few months to settle and adapt.
Then again he may not have, we'll never know. A few half-fit substitute appearances is certainly not enough to judge either way.
well he has had 4 years to get to the 8mill/45k a week level without Tan { apparently devalueing him } and without having to adjust in a foreign land at home in Denmark..and while the transfer market has spiralled up year on year Copenhagen eventually got a bid of 3 mill { a tad short of the insane price we paid for him } to become a bit part player at Atalanta. wow.
B } Malky...you Malkygod blokes cant have everything both ways...what credit MM deserves over this signing is that along with everyone else at the club he came to terms with the boy being miles off ..didnt pick him and started calling him one for the future rather than try to push it.
btw...players are judged by managers..scouts..coaches..other players...pundits...not just by a couple of dozen Cardiff fans on a message board....peoples judgement of him is based on 200 minutes PLUS the knowledge that none of the above have rated him to the degree Malky did {otherwise other club would have jumped in with equally large bids }.
had we keptt him..? by now we would have paid him 13.5 million in wages alone plus signing on fees and agents fees...all for a bloke that has yet to play 90 mins for Atalanta but did score twice as a sub during a rout
Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:56 pm
brewer918 wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
Good week for Malky ??
Seriously how far are you up Malky's arse ? Embarrassing!
Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:03 pm
Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:03 pm
scott_w_ccfc wrote:piledriver64 wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:Sam_89 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
The only people who think he was donkey are the people who were...
a) Judging him off about the 200 mins total (if that) he played for us, after coming back from a 3-month ankle injury. So you can't worry about them or take them seriously.
b) Dislike Malky (for whatever reason) and try to use this to justify the "bad job" he did for us as a counter argument to totally rebuilding a squad, getting us to a cup final, winning promotion and being outside the relegation zone when he was sacked.
or "c" (the real reason) clearly wasn't up to the task at the time of purchase despite us being told to the contrary.In those days 8m bought you alot more than we actually got.Its easy to make to make comments like this years after the event.
Agree with C. Young lad who was nowhere near the mark at that time. Never worth 8m 5 years ago. Nothing ti do with not liking malky or judging him on 200 minutes haha
So what are you basing that on then if not a few substitue appearances for us?
Plus the fact that the man who paid all that money wouldn't play him either
The point was never that he would never make it, it was the fact that Malky spent a fortune on a striker (which everyone needs in the Prem) that wasn't ready to play at that level.
Nobody moaned about the money spent on Medel because he came into out first team and was immediatey our best player, and we made most of our money back when he was subsequently sold. Even Caulker with all his problems made an immediate impact (he was even top scorer for a while !!).
Dress it up how you like but for a newly promoted club to spend invest all of their goalscoring hopes (and large proportion of their transfer budget) in a "project" was a critical error.
I fear we could go round in circles with this debate and it's been done to death, but even if I did agree with your point (which I don't) it would be a lot more valid if we were having a disaster of a season and Malky had wasted our whole budget.
We weren't, and he didn't.
We were not in the bottom 3 and we still had a squad capable of surviving under him. There's nothing to say Cornelius couldn't have come good that season, most foreign players take a few months to settle and adapt.
Then again he may not have, we'll never know. A few half-fit substitute appearances is certainly not enough to judge either way.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:37 pm
mugsy wrote:Perhaps not such a donkey after all! Good week for Malky
Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:57 pm
2blue2handle wrote:I don't think I can read this board anymore, Tan to blame for Malky at Wigan and now people defending the Cornelius transfer, no one without an agenda can honestly believe he was the right striker for this club and that the price wasn't madness. Christ the stick DJ got for paying big wages. Im out, its just not even worth trying to debate anymore.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:25 pm
2blue2handle wrote:I don't think I can read this board anymore, Tan to blame for Malky at Wigan and now people defending the Cornelius transfer, no one without an agenda can honestly believe he was the right striker for this club and that the price wasn't madness. Christ the stick DJ got for paying big wages. Im out, its just not even worth trying to debate anymore.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:25 pm
2blue2handle wrote:I don't think I can read this board anymore, Tan to blame for Malky at Wigan and now people defending the Cornelius transfer, no one without an agenda can honestly believe he was the right striker for this club and that the price wasn't madness. Christ the stick DJ got for paying big wages. Im out, its just not even worth trying to debate anymore.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:21 pm
scott_w_ccfc wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I don't think I can read this board anymore, Tan to blame for Malky at Wigan and now people defending the Cornelius transfer, no one without an agenda can honestly believe he was the right striker for this club and that the price wasn't madness. Christ the stick DJ got for paying big wages. Im out, its just not even worth trying to debate anymore.
I don't think he was.
Point is that one (potentially) wrong decision doesn't override all the amazing work Malky did for us.
If he had blown all our budget on a player which left us with a squad not good enough and we were bottom of the league, then maybe. But we weren't.
Promotion to the PL made the club enough money to forgive one supposedly bad signing which he didn't get chance to oversee and manage.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:26 pm
Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:27 pm
dogfound wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I don't think I can read this board anymore, Tan to blame for Malky at Wigan and now people defending the Cornelius transfer, no one without an agenda can honestly believe he was the right striker for this club and that the price wasn't madness. Christ the stick DJ got for paying big wages. Im out, its just not even worth trying to debate anymore.
I don't think he was.
Point is that one (potentially) wrong decision doesn't override all the amazing work Malky did for us.
If he had blown all our budget on a player which left us with a squad not good enough and we were bottom of the league, then maybe. But we weren't.
Promotion to the PL made the club enough money to forgive one supposedly bad signing which he didn't get chance to oversee and manage.
he blew a massive part of the budget..and the squad was not good enough....it had neither experience or much in the way of youngsters with potential..only 3 players have gone on to play in the prem after our relegation and none have made any impact there....a record inexperienced signing on huge wages { for the future } wasnt exactly what was needed..
Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:59 pm
dogfound wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I don't think I can read this board anymore, Tan to blame for Malky at Wigan and now people defending the Cornelius transfer, no one without an agenda can honestly believe he was the right striker for this club and that the price wasn't madness. Christ the stick DJ got for paying big wages. Im out, its just not even worth trying to debate anymore.
I don't think he was.
Point is that one (potentially) wrong decision doesn't override all the amazing work Malky did for us.
If he had blown all our budget on a player which left us with a squad not good enough and we were bottom of the league, then maybe. But we weren't.
Promotion to the PL made the club enough money to forgive one supposedly bad signing which he didn't get chance to oversee and manage.
he blew a massive part of the budget..and the squad was not good enough....it had neither experience or much in the way of youngsters with potential..only 3 players have gone on to play in the prem after our relegation and none have made any impact there....a record inexperienced signing on huge wages { for the future } wasnt exactly what was needed..
Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:00 am
Sneggyblubird wrote::lol: you are either Malkys cousin,one of those bent agents or been sniffing too much glue
Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:26 am
scott_w_ccfc wrote:dogfound wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I don't think I can read this board anymore, Tan to blame for Malky at Wigan and now people defending the Cornelius transfer, no one without an agenda can honestly believe he was the right striker for this club and that the price wasn't madness. Christ the stick DJ got for paying big wages. Im out, its just not even worth trying to debate anymore.
I don't think he was.
Point is that one (potentially) wrong decision doesn't override all the amazing work Malky did for us.
If he had blown all our budget on a player which left us with a squad not good enough and we were bottom of the league, then maybe. But we weren't.
Promotion to the PL made the club enough money to forgive one supposedly bad signing which he didn't get chance to oversee and manage.
he blew a massive part of the budget..and the squad was not good enough....it had neither experience or much in the way of youngsters with potential..only 3 players have gone on to play in the prem after our relegation and none have made any impact there....a record inexperienced signing on huge wages { for the future } wasnt exactly what was needed..
Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:36 am
scott_w_ccfc wrote:dogfound wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I don't think I can read this board anymore, Tan to blame for Malky at Wigan and now people defending the Cornelius transfer, no one without an agenda can honestly believe he was the right striker for this club and that the price wasn't madness. Christ the stick DJ got for paying big wages. Im out, its just not even worth trying to debate anymore.
I don't think he was.
Point is that one (potentially) wrong decision doesn't override all the amazing work Malky did for us.
If he had blown all our budget on a player which left us with a squad not good enough and we were bottom of the league, then maybe. But we weren't.
Promotion to the PL made the club enough money to forgive one supposedly bad signing which he didn't get chance to oversee and manage.
he blew a massive part of the budget..and the squad was not good enough....it had neither experience or much in the way of youngsters with potential..only 3 players have gone on to play in the prem after our relegation and none have made any impact there....a record inexperienced signing on huge wages { for the future } wasnt exactly what was needed..
In that case, Malky deserves even more credit then as when he was sacked, he left this "inexperienced and not good enough" squad outside of the relegation zone.