Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:01 am
boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:neilst wrote:1.I think it will improve family stand attendance by moving either them or away fans as ive sat in famuly stand a few times just so my boys could have pre match games. But the abuse that is thrown at fanily stand is no good for kids 2. Atmosphere wise by doing this wheneva they sing our fans would out power them as whoever said atomsphere in ground is good is full of shit been season ticket holder for years in ninian 116 and the last time i remember it good there was promotion season apart from premier league when big teams.
So all you do if move family stand to say canton end is to have a graveyard there or wherever you choose to put it will be same! At end of day people knew where away end was when stadium was being built so was upto them to go in Ninian stand but chose canton stand so who's fault is that?
Not quite true we got season tickets in block 117. I much enjoyed that season but each week got worse to club clamping down in standing. The club threatened to remove season tickets for persistence and advised to move to canton for standing and ultimately singing section. Our club basically didn't want any threat of violence in our new shiny stadium.
The atmosphere would be much better with canton next to away fans. This is a fact for sure.
You could be right but then you leave other parts stadium with no atmosphere! I sit halfway line on level 4 and tbh atmosphere sounds lot better around ground than at pitch level, other point is what kind atmosphere would there be with 4k city fans next to 500 away fans? Because we get a lot of low away attendance's ? Just think people make to much of away fans next to home fans, I'm
Sure other grounds have great atmosphere with few away fans and not next to home fans why is that?
I simply base it on my own experience from ninian being in Grange end next to away fans, also lower grandstand and block a when block A would get a chant going the bob bank would join in too.
Same for when we were in block 117. The stadium at times gets going but I cannot hear the away froms from canton end even when they bring loads. Same for away fans they don't hear canton.
Personally I don't like the drum but that's the usual method to start songs off. Rare now to get good old skool or new songs going with a banging drum constant. Next to away fans a Drum is not needed as even a few hundred away fans can get good song banter going.
For me watching city as a youngster the banter between home and away fans was a big selling point and enjoyment of going to the games.
Do many other teams have they singing section next to away fans. Trouble is no longer an issue as it once was!
Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:23 am
pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:neilst wrote:1.I think it will improve family stand attendance by moving either them or away fans as ive sat in famuly stand a few times just so my boys could have pre match games. But the abuse that is thrown at fanily stand is no good for kids 2. Atmosphere wise by doing this wheneva they sing our fans would out power them as whoever said atomsphere in ground is good is full of shit been season ticket holder for years in ninian 116 and the last time i remember it good there was promotion season apart from premier league when big teams.
So all you do if move family stand to say canton end is to have a graveyard there or wherever you choose to put it will be same! At end of day people knew where away end was when stadium was being built so was upto them to go in Ninian stand but chose canton stand so who's fault is that?
Not quite true we got season tickets in block 117. I much enjoyed that season but each week got worse to club clamping down in standing. The club threatened to remove season tickets for persistence and advised to move to canton for standing and ultimately singing section. Our club basically didn't want any threat of violence in our new shiny stadium.
The atmosphere would be much better with canton next to away fans. This is a fact for sure.
You could be right but then you leave other parts stadium with no atmosphere! I sit halfway line on level 4 and tbh atmosphere sounds lot better around ground than at pitch level, other point is what kind atmosphere would there be with 4k city fans next to 500 away fans? Because we get a lot of low away attendance's ? Just think people make to much of away fans next to home fans, I'm
Sure other grounds have great atmosphere with few away fans and not next to home fans why is that?
I simply base it on my own experience from ninian being in Grange end next to away fans, also lower grandstand and block a when block A would get a chant going the bob bank would join in too.
Same for when we were in block 117. The stadium at times gets going but I cannot hear the away froms from canton end even when they bring loads. Same for away fans they don't hear canton.
Personally I don't like the drum but that's the usual method to start songs off. Rare now to get good old skool or new songs going with a banging drum constant. Next to away fans a Drum is not needed as even a few hundred away fans can get good song banter going.
For me watching city as a youngster the banter between home and away fans was a big selling point and enjoyment of going to the games.
Do many other teams have they singing section next to away fans. Trouble is no longer an issue as it once was!
I was in ninian several years ago and noise wasn't that great! Other thing forget is segregation take look at how many rows of seats are empty in family stand and ninian to separate fans bet it would be bigger if move home fans there? Your right no issues with trouble but why is that? At ninian park it was nearly every game because fans were so close to each other, but have you noticed there appears to be more incidents involving fans outside grounds past 2 seasons , at present we have no police presence in ground except for couple games that would change to every game which costs club lot money over season. Not against moving fans but don't think it's the answer
Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:29 am
Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:16 pm
Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:28 pm
steve davies wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:neilst wrote:1.I think it will improve family stand attendance by moving either them or away fans as ive sat in famuly stand a few times just so my boys could have pre match games. But the abuse that is thrown at fanily stand is no good for kids 2. Atmosphere wise by doing this wheneva they sing our fans would out power them as whoever said atomsphere in ground is good is full of shit been season ticket holder for years in ninian 116 and the last time i remember it good there was promotion season apart from premier league when big teams.
So all you do if move family stand to say canton end is to have a graveyard there or wherever you choose to put it will be same! At end of day people knew where away end was when stadium was being built so was upto them to go in Ninian stand but chose canton stand so who's fault is that?
Not quite true we got season tickets in block 117. I much enjoyed that season but each week got worse to club clamping down in standing. The club threatened to remove season tickets for persistence and advised to move to canton for standing and ultimately singing section. Our club basically didn't want any threat of violence in our new shiny stadium.
The atmosphere would be much better with canton next to away fans. This is a fact for sure.
You could be right but then you leave other parts stadium with no atmosphere! I sit halfway line on level 4 and tbh atmosphere sounds lot better around ground than at pitch level, other point is what kind atmosphere would there be with 4k city fans next to 500 away fans? Because we get a lot of low away attendance's ? Just think people make to much of away fans next to home fans, I'm
Sure other grounds have great atmosphere with few away fans and not next to home fans why is that?
I simply base it on my own experience from ninian being in Grange end next to away fans, also lower grandstand and block a when block A would get a chant going the bob bank would join in too.
Same for when we were in block 117. The stadium at times gets going but I cannot hear the away froms from canton end even when they bring loads. Same for away fans they don't hear canton.
Personally I don't like the drum but that's the usual method to start songs off. Rare now to get good old skool or new songs going with a banging drum constant. Next to away fans a Drum is not needed as even a few hundred away fans can get good song banter going.
For me watching city as a youngster the banter between home and away fans was a big selling point and enjoyment of going to the games.
Do many other teams have they singing section next to away fans. Trouble is no longer an issue as it once was!
I was in ninian several years ago and noise wasn't that great! Other thing forget is segregation take look at how many rows of seats are empty in family stand and ninian to separate fans bet it would be bigger if move home fans there? Your right no issues with trouble but why is that? At ninian park it was nearly every game because fans were so close to each other, but have you noticed there appears to be more incidents involving fans outside grounds past 2 seasons , at present we have no police presence in ground except for couple games that would change to every game which costs club lot money over season. Not against moving fans but don't think it's the answer
far to much is made of the so called atmosphere at ninian park. yes there were the man city and leeds games along with local derbys but for the vast majority of the time you could hear the players talking to each other at games.
Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:02 pm
2blue2handle wrote:I wonder how much of an affect Wales doing well has. I think some people now prefer to follow Wales, home and away we seem to have more than ever, we took thousand upon thousand to France, i bet some are still paying off that trip it doesn't mean those people are not fans of Cardiff but prioritise Wales games and then pick and chose the Cardiff games. If your going to pick and chose games you will pick £5 for Leeds or seeing Manchester City in the cup.
I don't think that accounts for a huge percentage of fans but certainly some I know.
Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:16 pm
boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:neilst wrote:1.I think it will improve family stand attendance by moving either them or away fans as ive sat in famuly stand a few times just so my boys could have pre match games. But the abuse that is thrown at fanily stand is no good for kids 2. Atmosphere wise by doing this wheneva they sing our fans would out power them as whoever said atomsphere in ground is good is full of shit been season ticket holder for years in ninian 116 and the last time i remember it good there was promotion season apart from premier league when big teams.
So all you do if move family stand to say canton end is to have a graveyard there or wherever you choose to put it will be same! At end of day people knew where away end was when stadium was being built so was upto them to go in Ninian stand but chose canton stand so who's fault is that?
Not quite true we got season tickets in block 117. I much enjoyed that season but each week got worse to club clamping down in standing. The club threatened to remove season tickets for persistence and advised to move to canton for standing and ultimately singing section. Our club basically didn't want any threat of violence in our new shiny stadium.
The atmosphere would be much better with canton next to away fans. This is a fact for sure.
You could be right but then you leave other parts stadium with no atmosphere! I sit halfway line on level 4 and tbh atmosphere sounds lot better around ground than at pitch level, other point is what kind atmosphere would there be with 4k city fans next to 500 away fans? Because we get a lot of low away attendance's ? Just think people make to much of away fans next to home fans, I'm
Sure other grounds have great atmosphere with few away fans and not next to home fans why is that?
I simply base it on my own experience from ninian being in Grange end next to away fans, also lower grandstand and block a when block A would get a chant going the bob bank would join in too.
Same for when we were in block 117. The stadium at times gets going but I cannot hear the away froms from canton end even when they bring loads. Same for away fans they don't hear canton.
Personally I don't like the drum but that's the usual method to start songs off. Rare now to get good old skool or new songs going with a banging drum constant. Next to away fans a Drum is not needed as even a few hundred away fans can get good song banter going.
For me watching city as a youngster the banter between home and away fans was a big selling point and enjoyment of going to the games.
Do many other teams have they singing section next to away fans. Trouble is no longer an issue as it once was!
Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:42 pm
Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:12 pm
CF64 BLUE wrote:People fretting over crowds lower than they would expect for a team flying high.
I'm one of the missing 1000's, used to attend as much as humanly possible as I did and still do shift work.
I would say the third most used word on this forum after"Cardiff" and "City" is "plastic". ex/occasional fans are being called this name on a regular basis, it doesn't really encourage semi interested fans to make the effort to go to matches, it wouldn't and doesn't bother me personally in the least but I think for some it would effect their decision.
I have found a new interest that now uses up my free time and would rather pursue that than follow "The City".
Why doesn't the club do a survey of ex and occasional fans and attempt to get to the reason for disappointing crowds?.
I still occasionally fancy attending a game but can't see me returning to the fold and I first went when Dilwyn John and Gareth Williams played probably around 1965/66ish.
People who don't attend regularly are still keen City fans I have no doubt, there aren't really that many "plastics around as many on here would have us believe.
Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:21 pm
CF64 BLUE wrote:People fretting over crowds lower than they would expect for a team flying high.
I'm one of the missing 1000's, used to attend as much as humanly possible as I did and still do shift work.
I would say the third most used word on this forum after"Cardiff" and "City" is "plastic". ex/occasional fans are being called this name on a regular basis, it doesn't really encourage semi interested fans to make the effort to go to matches, it wouldn't and doesn't bother me personally in the least but I think for some it would effect their decision.
I have found a new interest that now uses up my free time and would rather pursue that than follow "The City".
Why doesn't the club do a survey of ex and occasional fans and attempt to get to the reason for disappointing crowds?.
I still occasionally fancy attending a game but can't see me returning to the fold and I first went when Dilwyn John and Gareth Williams played probably around 1965/66ish.
People who don't attend regularly are still keen City fans I have no doubt, there aren't really that many "plastics around as many on here would have us believe.
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:03 pm
maccydee wrote:CF64 BLUE wrote:People fretting over crowds lower than they would expect for a team flying high.
I'm one of the missing 1000's, used to attend as much as humanly possible as I did and still do shift work.
I would say the third most used word on this forum after"Cardiff" and "City" is "plastic". ex/occasional fans are being called this name on a regular basis, it doesn't really encourage semi interested fans to make the effort to go to matches, it wouldn't and doesn't bother me personally in the least but I think for some it would effect their decision.
I have found a new interest that now uses up my free time and would rather pursue that than follow "The City".
Why doesn't the club do a survey of ex and occasional fans and attempt to get to the reason for disappointing crowds?.
I still occasionally fancy attending a game but can't see me returning to the fold and I first went when Dilwyn John and Gareth Williams played probably around 1965/66ish.
People who don't attend regularly are still keen City fans I have no doubt, there aren't really that many "plastics around as many on here would have us believe.
The shift work / Saturday Work has to be a factor. The jobs people are doing has changed and weekend and evening working has become much more prevalent.
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:05 pm
Forever Blue wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:neilst wrote:1.I think it will improve family stand attendance by moving either them or away fans as ive sat in famuly stand a few times just so my boys could have pre match games. But the abuse that is thrown at fanily stand is no good for kids 2. Atmosphere wise by doing this wheneva they sing our fans would out power them as whoever said atomsphere in ground is good is full of shit been season ticket holder for years in ninian 116 and the last time i remember it good there was promotion season apart from premier league when big teams.
So all you do if move family stand to say canton end is to have a graveyard there or wherever you choose to put it will be same! At end of day people knew where away end was when stadium was being built so was upto them to go in Ninian stand but chose canton stand so who's fault is that?
Not quite true we got season tickets in block 117. I much enjoyed that season but each week got worse to club clamping down in standing. The club threatened to remove season tickets for persistence and advised to move to canton for standing and ultimately singing section. Our club basically didn't want any threat of violence in our new shiny stadium.
The atmosphere would be much better with canton next to away fans. This is a fact for sure.
You could be right but then you leave other parts stadium with no atmosphere! I sit halfway line on level 4 and tbh atmosphere sounds lot better around ground than at pitch level, other point is what kind atmosphere would there be with 4k city fans next to 500 away fans? Because we get a lot of low away attendance's ? Just think people make to much of away fans next to home fans, I'm
Sure other grounds have great atmosphere with few away fans and not next to home fans why is that?
I simply base it on my own experience from ninian being in Grange end next to away fans, also lower grandstand and block a when block A would get a chant going the bob bank would join in too.
Same for when we were in block 117. The stadium at times gets going but I cannot hear the away froms from canton end even when they bring loads. Same for away fans they don't hear canton.
Personally I don't like the drum but that's the usual method to start songs off. Rare now to get good old skool or new songs going with a banging drum constant. Next to away fans a Drum is not needed as even a few hundred away fans can get good song banter going.
For me watching city as a youngster the banter between home and away fans was a big selling point and enjoyment of going to the games.
Do many other teams have they singing section next to away fans. Trouble is no longer an issue as it once was!
I agree with you and many feel the same way
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:07 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Forever Blue wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:neilst wrote:1.I think it will improve family stand attendance by moving either them or away fans as ive sat in famuly stand a few times just so my boys could have pre match games. But the abuse that is thrown at fanily stand is no good for kids 2. Atmosphere wise by doing this wheneva they sing our fans would out power them as whoever said atomsphere in ground is good is full of shit been season ticket holder for years in ninian 116 and the last time i remember it good there was promotion season apart from premier league when big teams.
So all you do if move family stand to say canton end is to have a graveyard there or wherever you choose to put it will be same! At end of day people knew where away end was when stadium was being built so was upto them to go in Ninian stand but chose canton stand so who's fault is that?
Not quite true we got season tickets in block 117. I much enjoyed that season but each week got worse to club clamping down in standing. The club threatened to remove season tickets for persistence and advised to move to canton for standing and ultimately singing section. Our club basically didn't want any threat of violence in our new shiny stadium.
The atmosphere would be much better with canton next to away fans. This is a fact for sure.
You could be right but then you leave other parts stadium with no atmosphere! I sit halfway line on level 4 and tbh atmosphere sounds lot better around ground than at pitch level, other point is what kind atmosphere would there be with 4k city fans next to 500 away fans? Because we get a lot of low away attendance's ? Just think people make to much of away fans next to home fans, I'm
Sure other grounds have great atmosphere with few away fans and not next to home fans why is that?
I simply base it on my own experience from ninian being in Grange end next to away fans, also lower grandstand and block a when block A would get a chant going the bob bank would join in too.
Same for when we were in block 117. The stadium at times gets going but I cannot hear the away froms from canton end even when they bring loads. Same for away fans they don't hear canton.
Personally I don't like the drum but that's the usual method to start songs off. Rare now to get good old skool or new songs going with a banging drum constant. Next to away fans a Drum is not needed as even a few hundred away fans can get good song banter going.
For me watching city as a youngster the banter between home and away fans was a big selling point and enjoyment of going to the games.
Do many other teams have they singing section next to away fans. Trouble is no longer an issue as it once was!
I agree with you and many feel the same way
Annis you used to sit by the away fans and I think do now when your over so you know how many empty seats there are next to the away fans.
If everyone wants to sit next to to the away fans so much for the banter etc why isn't this area sold out?
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:12 pm
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:16 pm
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:17 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Forever Blue wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:neilst wrote:1.I think it will improve family stand attendance by moving either them or away fans as ive sat in famuly stand a few times just so my boys could have pre match games. But the abuse that is thrown at fanily stand is no good for kids 2. Atmosphere wise by doing this wheneva they sing our fans would out power them as whoever said atomsphere in ground is good is full of shit been season ticket holder for years in ninian 116 and the last time i remember it good there was promotion season apart from premier league when big teams.
So all you do if move family stand to say canton end is to have a graveyard there or wherever you choose to put it will be same! At end of day people knew where away end was when stadium was being built so was upto them to go in Ninian stand but chose canton stand so who's fault is that?
Not quite true we got season tickets in block 117. I much enjoyed that season but each week got worse to club clamping down in standing. The club threatened to remove season tickets for persistence and advised to move to canton for standing and ultimately singing section. Our club basically didn't want any threat of violence in our new shiny stadium.
The atmosphere would be much better with canton next to away fans. This is a fact for sure.
You could be right but then you leave other parts stadium with no atmosphere! I sit halfway line on level 4 and tbh atmosphere sounds lot better around ground than at pitch level, other point is what kind atmosphere would there be with 4k city fans next to 500 away fans? Because we get a lot of low away attendance's ? Just think people make to much of away fans next to home fans, I'm
Sure other grounds have great atmosphere with few away fans and not next to home fans why is that?
I simply base it on my own experience from ninian being in Grange end next to away fans, also lower grandstand and block a when block A would get a chant going the bob bank would join in too.
Same for when we were in block 117. The stadium at times gets going but I cannot hear the away froms from canton end even when they bring loads. Same for away fans they don't hear canton.
Personally I don't like the drum but that's the usual method to start songs off. Rare now to get good old skool or new songs going with a banging drum constant. Next to away fans a Drum is not needed as even a few hundred away fans can get good song banter going.
For me watching city as a youngster the banter between home and away fans was a big selling point and enjoyment of going to the games.
Do many other teams have they singing section next to away fans. Trouble is no longer an issue as it once was!
I agree with you and many feel the same way
Annis you used to sit by the away fans and I think do now when your over so you know how many empty seats there are next to the away fans.
If everyone wants to sit next to to the away fans so much for the banter etc why isn't this area sold out?
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:20 pm
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:31 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Fair enough, seems a shame. I suppose from the clubs point of view it makes sense but doesnt help the atmosphere.
It was great against Leeds as well as I sit even closer to the away fans. I've never had any trouble with the stewards or seen any but I'm happy to sit down for the most part.
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:33 pm
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:39 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Why should fans have to stand up to watch game in an all seater stadium just because some fans persistently stand, They've got a stand to use for that so should be happy! Even man u been threatened with stand closure because of persistently standing fans, Maybe that's reason for people staying away now? I certainly wouldn't want spend £20 to stand when I have paid to sit.
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:47 pm
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:47 pm
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:50 pm
Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Why should fans have to stand up to watch game in an all seater stadium just because some fans persistently stand, They've got a stand to use for that so should be happy! Even man u been threatened with stand closure because of persistently standing fans, Maybe that's reason for people staying away now? I certainly wouldn't want spend £20 to stand when I have paid to sit.
Best excuse of the season and its £18 by the way
You could not make it up Allan, so u think fans are staying away because other fans stood up
Allan, I have added this to the 101 other excuses
In the Prem if u read two sections of Ninian Stand stood up every game and it was full all season, if fans did not like it they moved further down the Ninian Stand or could go to Fam stand or main grandstand very simple to do
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:56 pm
maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Why should fans have to stand up to watch game in an all seater stadium just because some fans persistently stand, They've got a stand to use for that so should be happy! Even man u been threatened with stand closure because of persistently standing fans, Maybe that's reason for people staying away now? I certainly wouldn't want spend £20 to stand when I have paid to sit.
Best excuse of the season and its £18 by the way
You could not make it up Allan, so u think fans are staying away because other fans stood up
Allan, I have added this to the 101 other excuses
In the Prem if u read two sections of Ninian Stand stood up every game and it was full all season, if fans did not like it they moved further down the Ninian Stand or could go to Fam stand or main grandstand very simple to do
Annis I much prefer to stand at the footy and love the atmosphere however there might well be fans who come who don’t want that and want to sit and watch it in peace. Knowing the mouthful some might get were they to ask someone to sit down would stop someone from coming especially if they felt intimidated.
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:57 pm
maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Why should fans have to stand up to watch game in an all seater stadium just because some fans persistently stand, They've got a stand to use for that so should be happy! Even man u been threatened with stand closure because of persistently standing fans, Maybe that's reason for people staying away now? I certainly wouldn't want spend £20 to stand when I have paid to sit.
Best excuse of the season and its £18 by the way
You could not make it up Allan, so u think fans are staying away because other fans stood up
Allan, I have added this to the 101 other excuses
In the Prem if u read two sections of Ninian Stand stood up every game and it was full all season, if fans did not like it they moved further down the Ninian Stand or could go to Fam stand or main grandstand very simple to do
Annis I much prefer to stand at the footy and love the atmosphere however there might well be fans who come who don’t want that and want to sit and watch it in peace. Knowing the mouthful some might get were they to ask someone to sit down would stop someone from coming especially if they felt intimidated.
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:58 pm
Gaynor Straight wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Why should fans have to stand up to watch game in an all seater stadium just because some fans persistently stand, They've got a stand to use for that so should be happy! Even man u been threatened with stand closure because of persistently standing fans, Maybe that's reason for people staying away now? I certainly wouldn't want spend £20 to stand when I have paid to sit.
Best excuse of the season and its £18 by the way
You could not make it up Allan, so u think fans are staying away because other fans stood up
Allan, I have added this to the 101 other excuses
In the Prem if u read two sections of Ninian Stand stood up every game and it was full all season, if fans did not like it they moved further down the Ninian Stand or could go to Fam stand or main grandstand very simple to do
Annis I much prefer to stand at the footy and love the atmosphere however there might well be fans who come who don’t want that and want to sit and watch it in peace. Knowing the mouthful some might get were they to ask someone to sit down would stop someone from coming especially if they felt intimidated.
101 excuses or reasons but all of them valid if that's what the individual feels
Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:05 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Gaynor Straight wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Why should fans have to stand up to watch game in an all seater stadium just because some fans persistently stand, They've got a stand to use for that so should be happy! Even man u been threatened with stand closure because of persistently standing fans, Maybe that's reason for people staying away now? I certainly wouldn't want spend £20 to stand when I have paid to sit.
Best excuse of the season and its £18 by the way
You could not make it up Allan, so u think fans are staying away because other fans stood up
Allan, I have added this to the 101 other excuses
In the Prem if u read two sections of Ninian Stand stood up every game and it was full all season, if fans did not like it they moved further down the Ninian Stand or could go to Fam stand or main grandstand very simple to do
Annis I much prefer to stand at the footy and love the atmosphere however there might well be fans who come who don’t want that and want to sit and watch it in peace. Knowing the mouthful some might get were they to ask someone to sit down would stop someone from coming especially if they felt intimidated.
101 excuses or reasons but all of them valid if that's what the individual feels
To much traffic,its raining,its cold,its live on tv,its a Sunday,its a Tuesday night, fans stand up etc etc
But only at our club
Never heard that for Man City or Leeds game
Why did they not feel that way for those two big games?
Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:15 pm
Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Why should fans have to stand up to watch game in an all seater stadium just because some fans persistently stand, They've got a stand to use for that so should be happy! Even man u been threatened with stand closure because of persistently standing fans, Maybe that's reason for people staying away now? I certainly wouldn't want spend £20 to stand when I have paid to sit.
Best excuse of the season and its £18 by the way
You could not make it up Allan, so u think fans are staying away because other fans stood up
Allan, I have added this to the 101 other excuses
In the Prem if u read two sections of Ninian Stand stood up every game and it was full all season, if fans did not like it they moved further down the Ninian Stand or could go to Fam stand or main grandstand very simple to do
Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:16 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Gaynor Straight wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Why should fans have to stand up to watch game in an all seater stadium just because some fans persistently stand, They've got a stand to use for that so should be happy! Even man u been threatened with stand closure because of persistently standing fans, Maybe that's reason for people staying away now? I certainly wouldn't want spend £20 to stand when I have paid to sit.
Best excuse of the season and its £18 by the way
You could not make it up Allan, so u think fans are staying away because other fans stood up
Allan, I have added this to the 101 other excuses
In the Prem if u read two sections of Ninian Stand stood up every game and it was full all season, if fans did not like it they moved further down the Ninian Stand or could go to Fam stand or main grandstand very simple to do
Annis I much prefer to stand at the footy and love the atmosphere however there might well be fans who come who don’t want that and want to sit and watch it in peace. Knowing the mouthful some might get were they to ask someone to sit down would stop someone from coming especially if they felt intimidated.
101 excuses or reasons but all of them valid if that's what the individual feels
To much traffic,its raining,its cold,its live on tv,its a Sunday,its a Tuesday night, fans stand up etc etc
But only at our club
Never heard that for Man City or Leeds game
Why did they not feel that way for those two big games?
Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:17 pm
steve davies wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:neilst wrote:1.I think it will improve family stand attendance by moving either them or away fans as ive sat in famuly stand a few times just so my boys could have pre match games. But the abuse that is thrown at fanily stand is no good for kids 2. Atmosphere wise by doing this wheneva they sing our fans would out power them as whoever said atomsphere in ground is good is full of shit been season ticket holder for years in ninian 116 and the last time i remember it good there was promotion season apart from premier league when big teams.
So all you do if move family stand to say canton end is to have a graveyard there or wherever you choose to put it will be same! At end of day people knew where away end was when stadium was being built so was upto them to go in Ninian stand but chose canton stand so who's fault is that?
Not quite true we got season tickets in block 117. I much enjoyed that season but each week got worse to club clamping down in standing. The club threatened to remove season tickets for persistence and advised to move to canton for standing and ultimately singing section. Our club basically didn't want any threat of violence in our new shiny stadium.
The atmosphere would be much better with canton next to away fans. This is a fact for sure.
You could be right but then you leave other parts stadium with no atmosphere! I sit halfway line on level 4 and tbh atmosphere sounds lot better around ground than at pitch level, other point is what kind atmosphere would there be with 4k city fans next to 500 away fans? Because we get a lot of low away attendance's ? Just think people make to much of away fans next to home fans, I'm
Sure other grounds have great atmosphere with few away fans and not next to home fans why is that?
I simply base it on my own experience from ninian being in Grange end next to away fans, also lower grandstand and block a when block A would get a chant going the bob bank would join in too.
Same for when we were in block 117. The stadium at times gets going but I cannot hear the away froms from canton end even when they bring loads. Same for away fans they don't hear canton.
Personally I don't like the drum but that's the usual method to start songs off. Rare now to get good old skool or new songs going with a banging drum constant. Next to away fans a Drum is not needed as even a few hundred away fans can get good song banter going.
For me watching city as a youngster the banter between home and away fans was a big selling point and enjoyment of going to the games.
Do many other teams have they singing section next to away fans. Trouble is no longer an issue as it once was!
I was in ninian several years ago and noise wasn't that great! Other thing forget is segregation take look at how many rows of seats are empty in family stand and ninian to separate fans bet it would be bigger if move home fans there? Your right no issues with trouble but why is that? At ninian park it was nearly every game because fans were so close to each other, but have you noticed there appears to be more incidents involving fans outside grounds past 2 seasons , at present we have no police presence in ground except for couple games that would change to every game which costs club lot money over season. Not against moving fans but don't think it's the answer
far to much is made of the so called atmosphere at ninian park. yes there were the man city and leeds games along with local derbys but for the vast majority of the time you could hear the players talking to each other at games.