Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:34 pm
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:41 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Everyone is talking about the procedure which needs to be followed before a game is called off. Does anyone know exactly what that procedure is?
By that I mean does it have to be a unanimous decision (DCFC/Safe Advisory Group/Police) or can just one of them pull the plug?
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:44 pm
Lawnmower wrote:Head of the Safety Advisory Group now saying the first involvement he had was after he was told the game was off
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:44 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Everyone is talking about the procedure which needs to be followed before a game is called off. Does anyone know exactly what that procedure is?
By that I mean does it have to be a unanimous decision (DCFC/Safe Advisory Group/Police) or can just one of them pull the plug?
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:45 pm
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:48 pm
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:53 pm
Leytonstoneblue wrote:Biggest culprit here is Sky. The big problem here was the KO time, Stewards couldn't be bothered to make it to the ground at that time of the morning with all the snow around Derbyshire, if it had been a normal KO time, then they would have done. Instead of Derby bending over backwards to find staff, they took the opportunity to call it off, give their injuries and poor form.
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:53 pm
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:54 pm
Pulisnewport wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Everyone is talking about the procedure which needs to be followed before a game is called off. Does anyone know exactly what that procedure is?
By that I mean does it have to be a unanimous decision (DCFC/Safe Advisory Group/Police) or can just one of them pull the plug?
Takes all 3 to decide and includes talking to the ref and opposition club.
This clearly was not done with both the police and advisory group now saying that they were not involved it was a Derby FC official?
You couldn't make it up and with the EFL now taking a step back to look at it, they must find who at Derby took the final decision.
Good old Rowett has helped by saying he only had 10 players on the Friday.
Will anything happen?? I'm not hopeful and if not it will show how corrupt in the EFL and Derby FC people are.
It will also be the death knell of spouting off about kick out racism and everything else they push as no one will believe them.
If something happens then Derby should be deducted 3 pts and compensation to all our fans who went
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:54 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Everyone is talking about the procedure which needs to be followed before a game is called off. Does anyone know exactly what that procedure is?
By that I mean does it have to be a unanimous decision (DCFC/Safe Advisory Group/Police) or can just one of them pull the plug?
Well derby cannot call it off on their own
They would need efl approval 1st! but police certainly can and sag can if its the actual stadium thats the problem? despite anything a club can say as they have the power in law.
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:57 pm
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:59 pm
Mr Potato wrote:This isn’t looking good for Derby! First the Police and now the Council stating the club called it, EFL now backed into a corner as it’s original statement is a total shambles.
Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:01 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if were awarded the 3 points or them deducted points that would stop any club pulling a stunt like this again action deffo needs to be taken and I think it will.
Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:02 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if were awarded the 3 points or them deducted points that would stop any club pulling a stunt like this again action deffo needs to be taken and I think it will.
I hope you are right regarding action being taken against Derby County but I doubt very much we will be awarded the 3 point. It is likely Derby could get deducted 3 points at best as precidence was set a few years ago against Middlesborough. I think this will be warmly welcomes from the clubs fighting for a play off spot.
Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:04 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:Mr Potato wrote:This isn’t looking good for Derby! First the Police and now the Council stating the club called it, EFL now backed into a corner as it’s original statement is a total shambles.
I sense an awarded 3 points I’m Praying.
Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:06 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if were awarded the 3 points or them deducted points that would stop any club pulling a stunt like this again action deffo needs to be taken and I think it will.
I hope you are right regarding action being taken against Derby County but I doubt very much we will be awarded the 3 point. It is likely Derby could get deducted 3 points at best as presidence was set a few years ago against Middlesborough. I think this will be warmly welcomes from the clubs fighting for a play off spot.
Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:11 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if were awarded the 3 points or them deducted points that would stop any club pulling a stunt like this again action deffo needs to be taken and I think it will.
I hope you are right regarding action being taken against Derby County but I doubt very much we will be awarded the 3 point. It is likely Derby could get deducted 3 points at best as presidence was set a few years ago against Middlesborough. I think this will be warmly welcomes from the clubs fighting for a play off spot.
Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:11 pm
Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:22 pm
Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:11 pm
Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:13 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Derbyshire Police confirm they were NOT behind the decision to postpone Derby County Vs Cardiff City
Monday 19th March 2018
Derbyshire Police have confirmed they were not part of the decision to postpone Derby County’s home clash with Cardiff City on Sunday.
The fixture wall called off due to severe weather conditions which saw much of the UK covered in snow and ice, but the decision was met with lots of opposition.
Pictures soon emerged of Pride Park, Derby’s home ground, looking rather snow free and Cardiff City’s staff and players were among those voicing their complaints.
The Bluebirds arrived at the ground to discover that very few staff were on-site, questioning whether every effort was in fact made to get the game on.
The club shop was also open and advertised to the public, suggesting the areas around the ground were safe, though, it was then closed.
Suspicions were raised with Derby having only 10 senior players available for training in the days leading up to the game and in similar weather conditions, the Rams managed to play their home fixture against Fulham just over two weeks ago.
Derby maintain that the decision was purely made on safety grounds.
Cardiff City are communicating with the EFL about the postponement of the game, but the league chiefs’ most recent response is as follows:
“The decision to postpone this afternoon’s fixture was made first thing on Sunday morning following discussions between Derby County, Derbyshire Police and the local Safety Advisory Group (SAG).
“It was taken in the interests of spectator safety and followed heavy overnight snow falling in the Derby area which had built up on the roads surrounding the stadium.
“Cardiff City were informed of the decision and the reasons behind it as soon as it was reached. An announcement was made at 8.30am.
“The EFL is satisfied from the information shared with us that these were the reasons the match was postponed and will provide Cardiff City with the opportunity to provide any additional information / evidence they feel is relevant, before responding further.”
In another twist, Derbyshire Police have today confirmed that the decision was taken ‘independently’ by the club, throwing up even more questions.
Cardiff City officials are said to be furious with the decision Derby made on Sunday with many of their supporters already well on their way to the East Midlands.
Bluebirds boss Neil Warnock also had his say. Speaking to Sky Sports News at Pride Park on Sunday, he said: “I believe it’s a big travesty this, today. There’s nobody here (Pride Park). They were all embarrassed when we walked through the doors. It’s an embarrassing situation for everyone.”
Derby County have told Sky Sports News that they are angry with Warnock’s comments, and they remain adamant that they followed the correct procedures.
The rearranged fixture is now likely to take place at the earliest available date, which is the 17th or 18th April and Warnock says he will ‘fight tooth and nail’ to avoid that.
It would mean Cardiff City will have three away fixtures on the bounce before the end of the season.
The EFL say Cardiff will have their opportunity to submit an appeal with evidence. However, at this stage, it looks unlikely that any action will be taken against Derby County.
Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:05 am
DEL84 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Derbyshire Police confirm they were NOT behind the decision to postpone Derby County Vs Cardiff City
Monday 19th March 2018
Derbyshire Police have confirmed they were not part of the decision to postpone Derby County’s home clash with Cardiff City on Sunday.
The fixture wall called off due to severe weather conditions which saw much of the UK covered in snow and ice, but the decision was met with lots of opposition.
Pictures soon emerged of Pride Park, Derby’s home ground, looking rather snow free and Cardiff City’s staff and players were among those voicing their complaints.
The Bluebirds arrived at the ground to discover that very few staff were on-site, questioning whether every effort was in fact made to get the game on.
The club shop was also open and advertised to the public, suggesting the areas around the ground were safe, though, it was then closed.
Suspicions were raised with Derby having only 10 senior players available for training in the days leading up to the game and in similar weather conditions, the Rams managed to play their home fixture against Fulham just over two weeks ago.
Derby maintain that the decision was purely made on safety grounds.
Cardiff City are communicating with the EFL about the postponement of the game, but the league chiefs’ most recent response is as follows:
“The decision to postpone this afternoon’s fixture was made first thing on Sunday morning following discussions between Derby County, Derbyshire Police and the local Safety Advisory Group (SAG).
“It was taken in the interests of spectator safety and followed heavy overnight snow falling in the Derby area which had built up on the roads surrounding the stadium.
“Cardiff City were informed of the decision and the reasons behind it as soon as it was reached. An announcement was made at 8.30am.
“The EFL is satisfied from the information shared with us that these were the reasons the match was postponed and will provide Cardiff City with the opportunity to provide any additional information / evidence they feel is relevant, before responding further.”
In another twist, Derbyshire Police have today confirmed that the decision was taken ‘independently’ by the club, throwing up even more questions.
Cardiff City officials are said to be furious with the decision Derby made on Sunday with many of their supporters already well on their way to the East Midlands.
Bluebirds boss Neil Warnock also had his say. Speaking to Sky Sports News at Pride Park on Sunday, he said: “I believe it’s a big travesty this, today. There’s nobody here (Pride Park). They were all embarrassed when we walked through the doors. It’s an embarrassing situation for everyone.”
Derby County have told Sky Sports News that they are angry with Warnock’s comments, and they remain adamant that they followed the correct procedures.
The rearranged fixture is now likely to take place at the earliest available date, which is the 17th or 18th April and Warnock says he will ‘fight tooth and nail’ to avoid that.
It would mean Cardiff City will have three away fixtures on the bounce before the end of the season.
The EFL say Cardiff will have their opportunity to submit an appeal with evidence. However, at this stage, it looks unlikely that any action will be taken against Derby County.
Police did ACTUALLY got involved in the meeting but they AREN'T the one made the decision. You all cry babies x
P.S you don't hear us moaning about the game called off in 2009 lololololololololololol.
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:55 am
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:04 am
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:16 am
DEL84 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Derbyshire Police confirm they were NOT behind the decision to postpone Derby County Vs Cardiff City
Monday 19th March 2018
Derbyshire Police have confirmed they were not part of the decision to postpone Derby County’s home clash with Cardiff City on Sunday.
The fixture wall called off due to severe weather conditions which saw much of the UK covered in snow and ice, but the decision was met with lots of opposition.
Pictures soon emerged of Pride Park, Derby’s home ground, looking rather snow free and Cardiff City’s staff and players were among those voicing their complaints.
The Bluebirds arrived at the ground to discover that very few staff were on-site, questioning whether every effort was in fact made to get the game on.
The club shop was also open and advertised to the public, suggesting the areas around the ground were safe, though, it was then closed.
Suspicions were raised with Derby having only 10 senior players available for training in the days leading up to the game and in similar weather conditions, the Rams managed to play their home fixture against Fulham just over two weeks ago.
Derby maintain that the decision was purely made on safety grounds.
Cardiff City are communicating with the EFL about the postponement of the game, but the league chiefs’ most recent response is as follows:
“The decision to postpone this afternoon’s fixture was made first thing on Sunday morning following discussions between Derby County, Derbyshire Police and the local Safety Advisory Group (SAG).
“It was taken in the interests of spectator safety and followed heavy overnight snow falling in the Derby area which had built up on the roads surrounding the stadium.
“Cardiff City were informed of the decision and the reasons behind it as soon as it was reached. An announcement was made at 8.30am.
“The EFL is satisfied from the information shared with us that these were the reasons the match was postponed and will provide Cardiff City with the opportunity to provide any additional information / evidence they feel is relevant, before responding further.”
In another twist, Derbyshire Police have today confirmed that the decision was taken ‘independently’ by the club, throwing up even more questions.
Cardiff City officials are said to be furious with the decision Derby made on Sunday with many of their supporters already well on their way to the East Midlands.
Bluebirds boss Neil Warnock also had his say. Speaking to Sky Sports News at Pride Park on Sunday, he said: “I believe it’s a big travesty this, today. There’s nobody here (Pride Park). They were all embarrassed when we walked through the doors. It’s an embarrassing situation for everyone.”
Derby County have told Sky Sports News that they are angry with Warnock’s comments, and they remain adamant that they followed the correct procedures.
The rearranged fixture is now likely to take place at the earliest available date, which is the 17th or 18th April and Warnock says he will ‘fight tooth and nail’ to avoid that.
It would mean Cardiff City will have three away fixtures on the bounce before the end of the season.
The EFL say Cardiff will have their opportunity to submit an appeal with evidence. However, at this stage, it looks unlikely that any action will be taken against Derby County.
Police did ACTUALLY got involved in the meeting but they AREN'T the one made the decision. You all cry babies x
P.S you don't hear us moaning about the game called off in 2009 lololololololololololol.
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:23 am
DEL84 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Derbyshire Police confirm they were NOT behind the decision to postpone Derby County Vs Cardiff City
Monday 19th March 2018
Derbyshire Police have confirmed they were not part of the decision to postpone Derby County’s home clash with Cardiff City on Sunday.
The fixture wall called off due to severe weather conditions which saw much of the UK covered in snow and ice, but the decision was met with lots of opposition.
Pictures soon emerged of Pride Park, Derby’s home ground, looking rather snow free and Cardiff City’s staff and players were among those voicing their complaints.
The Bluebirds arrived at the ground to discover that very few staff were on-site, questioning whether every effort was in fact made to get the game on.
The club shop was also open and advertised to the public, suggesting the areas around the ground were safe, though, it was then closed.
Suspicions were raised with Derby having only 10 senior players available for training in the days leading up to the game and in similar weather conditions, the Rams managed to play their home fixture against Fulham just over two weeks ago.
Derby maintain that the decision was purely made on safety grounds.
Cardiff City are communicating with the EFL about the postponement of the game, but the league chiefs’ most recent response is as follows:
“The decision to postpone this afternoon’s fixture was made first thing on Sunday morning following discussions between Derby County, Derbyshire Police and the local Safety Advisory Group (SAG).
“It was taken in the interests of spectator safety and followed heavy overnight snow falling in the Derby area which had built up on the roads surrounding the stadium.
“Cardiff City were informed of the decision and the reasons behind it as soon as it was reached. An announcement was made at 8.30am.
“The EFL is satisfied from the information shared with us that these were the reasons the match was postponed and will provide Cardiff City with the opportunity to provide any additional information / evidence they feel is relevant, before responding further.”
In another twist, Derbyshire Police have today confirmed that the decision was taken ‘independently’ by the club, throwing up even more questions.
Cardiff City officials are said to be furious with the decision Derby made on Sunday with many of their supporters already well on their way to the East Midlands.
Bluebirds boss Neil Warnock also had his say. Speaking to Sky Sports News at Pride Park on Sunday, he said: “I believe it’s a big travesty this, today. There’s nobody here (Pride Park). They were all embarrassed when we walked through the doors. It’s an embarrassing situation for everyone.”
Derby County have told Sky Sports News that they are angry with Warnock’s comments, and they remain adamant that they followed the correct procedures.
The rearranged fixture is now likely to take place at the earliest available date, which is the 17th or 18th April and Warnock says he will ‘fight tooth and nail’ to avoid that.
It would mean Cardiff City will have three away fixtures on the bounce before the end of the season.
The EFL say Cardiff will have their opportunity to submit an appeal with evidence. However, at this stage, it looks unlikely that any action will be taken against Derby County.
Police did ACTUALLY got involved in the meeting but they AREN'T the one made the decision. You all cry babies x
P.S you don't hear us moaning about the game called off in 2009 lololololololololololol.
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:24 am
Jules wrote:Morning Annis,Be carful what pictures of Derby stadium are posted as they could be taken as trying to push the point to far, I think only pictures from the actual day should be shown.
But keep up the pressure on the lying toads.
Also, well done Vince for a well put case to EFL.
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:40 am
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Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:19 am