Thu May 17, 2018 5:45 am
Thu May 17, 2018 5:54 am
JimCP91 wrote:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157392479514992&id=186525784991
great video which also counters any argument given by anybody supporting the state of Israel; including borders (which don't exist) and the threat of Palestinians attacking the said 'borders'
Thu May 17, 2018 5:59 am
Thu May 17, 2018 6:45 am
JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
Thu May 17, 2018 7:22 am
JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
Thu May 17, 2018 7:26 am
Forever Blue wrote:JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
That’s the thing Israel say things but never back it up by showing evidence.
The truth is this was a massacre against the Palestinians and not even one Israelie touched,never mind injured.
Not even a shot fired by a Palestinian.
Oops I forgot Wez, will show you some stones thrown or a couple of fires.
Thu May 17, 2018 7:40 am
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
That’s the thing Israel say things but never back it up by showing evidence.
The truth is this was a massacre against the Palestinians and not even one Israelie touched,never mind injured.
Not even a shot fired by a Palestinian.
Oops I forgot Wez, will show you some stones thrown or a couple of fires.
I wouldn't of put you down as a nazi annis sort yourself out I showed you on Facebook the truth ,and you know it ! ,the peoole killed over 53 if them were Hamas fighters confirmed by Hamas themselves, I cant believ3 you are a terrorist lover
Thu May 17, 2018 7:43 am
Thu May 17, 2018 7:43 am
ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
That’s the thing Israel say things but never back it up by showing evidence.
The truth is this was a massacre against the Palestinians and not even one Israelie touched,never mind injured.
Not even a shot fired by a Palestinian.
Oops I forgot Wez, will show you some stones thrown or a couple of fires.
I wouldn't of put you down as a nazi annis sort yourself out I showed you on Facebook the truth ,and you know it ! ,the peoole killed over 53 if them were Hamas fighters confirmed by Hamas themselves, I cant believ3 you are a terrorist lover
Israel only for the jews. Non-jews cannot settle in Israel. Germany for the German people 1940's.
Who's domestic policies more Nazi like
Thu May 17, 2018 7:45 am
wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
That’s the thing Israel say things but never back it up by showing evidence.
The truth is this was a massacre against the Palestinians and not even one Israelie touched,never mind injured.
Not even a shot fired by a Palestinian.
Oops I forgot Wez, will show you some stones thrown or a couple of fires.
I wouldn't of put you down as a nazi annis sort yourself out I showed you on Facebook the truth ,and you know it ! ,the peoole killed over 53 if them were Hamas fighters confirmed by Hamas themselves, I cant believ3 you are a terrorist lover
Israel only for the jews. Non-jews cannot settle in Israel. Germany for the German people 1940's.
Who's domestic policies more Nazi like
Another antisemitic person
Thu May 17, 2018 7:46 am
wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
That’s the thing Israel say things but never back it up by showing evidence.
The truth is this was a massacre against the Palestinians and not even one Israelie touched,never mind injured.
Not even a shot fired by a Palestinian.
Oops I forgot Wez, will show you some stones thrown or a couple of fires.
I wouldn't of put you down as a nazi annis sort yourself out I showed you on Facebook the truth ,and you know it ! ,the peoole killed over 53 if them were Hamas fighters confirmed by Hamas themselves, I cant believ3 you are a terrorist lover
Israel only for the jews. Non-jews cannot settle in Israel. Germany for the German people 1940's.
Who's domestic policies more Nazi like
Another antisemitic person
Thu May 17, 2018 7:52 am
ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
That’s the thing Israel say things but never back it up by showing evidence.
The truth is this was a massacre against the Palestinians and not even one Israelie touched,never mind injured.
Not even a shot fired by a Palestinian.
Oops I forgot Wez, will show you some stones thrown or a couple of fires.
I wouldn't of put you down as a nazi annis sort yourself out I showed you on Facebook the truth ,and you know it ! ,the peoole killed over 53 if them were Hamas fighters confirmed by Hamas themselves, I cant believ3 you are a terrorist lover
Israel only for the jews. Non-jews cannot settle in Israel. Germany for the German people 1940's.
Who's domestic policies more Nazi like
Another antisemitic person
If you love Israel so much Wez go live there. Oh just realised, your not allowed. Sorry!!
Thu May 17, 2018 8:49 am
Thu May 17, 2018 9:12 am
JimCP91 wrote:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157392479514992&id=186525784991
great video which also counters any argument given by anybody supporting the state of Israel; including borders (which don't exist) and the threat of Palestinians attacking the said 'borders'
Thu May 17, 2018 9:15 am
wez1927 wrote:Looks like a lot of you on here have a lot in common with this one especially annis and jim the jew hater
Thu May 17, 2018 9:18 am
paulh_85 wrote:not sure you know what anti-Semitic means
Thu May 17, 2018 9:20 am
JimCP91 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Looks like a lot of you on here have a lot in common with this one especially annis and jim the jew hater
Are you a troll, or do you really think not agreeing with Israels aggressive stance makes me a nazi or anti semite?
Do you know what an anti semite is?
I guess these Israelis marching in Tel Aviv are also anti semetic and Nazis, right?
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/250 ... -1.5964144
What is really funny, is your brandish these words around, yet I have never mentioned religion. Just that I am against Zionism and the state of Israel.
Thu May 17, 2018 9:22 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:paulh_85 wrote:not sure you know what anti-Semitic means
I'm pretty sure Wez knows exactly what Anti-Semitism is as do we all.
However, when arguments about Israel break out the lines become blurred between anti-Semitism and justifiable criticism of Israel.
But for sure some people are motivated by their hate of Jews and that is quite obvious from some comments in this thread.
Thu May 17, 2018 9:23 am
JimCP91 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Looks like a lot of you on here have a lot in common with this one especially annis and jim the jew hater
Are you a troll, or do you really think not agreeing with Israels aggressive stance makes me a nazi or anti semite?
Do you know what an anti semite is?
I guess these Israelis marching in Tel Aviv are also anti semetic and Nazis, right?
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/250 ... -1.5964144
What is really funny, is your brandish these words around, yet I have never mentioned religion. Just that I am against Zionism and the state of Israel.
Thu May 17, 2018 9:24 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:JimCP91 wrote:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157392479514992&id=186525784991
great video which also counters any argument given by anybody supporting the state of Israel; including borders (which don't exist) and the threat of Palestinians attacking the said 'borders'
I wouldn't call your video a knock out blow. For starters the lady giving her 'expert' opinion is Noura Erakat a Palestinian American who just might have a bias view Would you accept an interview by Benjamin Netanyahu giving the alternative view as absolute proof?
Noura Erakat states that Israel doesn't have a boarder but then adds that they sought of do based on the 1949 Armistice Agreement TBH it sounds a bit like she is making it up as she goes along.
She also admits that Hamas is not an organisation which is good for the average Palestinian and doesn't represent the views of that population. You then have to wonder why Hamas have been consistently elected by the people of Gaza as their Government?
I'm sorry but the likes of Noura Erakat are part of the problem just as much as Benjamin Netanyahu, Hamas and Donald Trump. What is needed is real people from the Palestinians and the Israeli's to get together and come up with a workable two states solution to this mess.
Thu May 17, 2018 9:27 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:JimCP91 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Looks like a lot of you on here have a lot in common with this one especially annis and jim the jew hater
Are you a troll, or do you really think not agreeing with Israels aggressive stance makes me a nazi or anti semite?
Do you know what an anti semite is?
I guess these Israelis marching in Tel Aviv are also anti semetic and Nazis, right?
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/250 ... -1.5964144
What is really funny, is your brandish these words around, yet I have never mentioned religion. Just that I am against Zionism and the state of Israel.
Your last sentence could be inferred as anti-Semitic. It is one thing to judge Israel's use of force in defending it's boarders but it is quite something else to deny Israel's right to exist as the only Jewish state on Earth.
Thu May 17, 2018 9:28 am
wez1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:paulh_85 wrote:not sure you know what anti-Semitic means
I'm pretty sure Wez knows exactly what Anti-Semitism is as do we all.
However, when arguments about Israel break out the lines become blurred between anti-Semitism and justifiable criticism of Israel.
But for sure some people are motivated by their hate of Jews and that is quite obvious from some comments in this thread.
I don't often agree with you but you are bang on with this ,jim says he not anti Semitic then says he's against the state of Israel strange theroy
Thu May 17, 2018 9:33 am
JimCP91 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:JimCP91 wrote:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157392479514992&id=186525784991
great video which also counters any argument given by anybody supporting the state of Israel; including borders (which don't exist) and the threat of Palestinians attacking the said 'borders'
I wouldn't call your video a knock out blow. For starters the lady giving her 'expert' opinion is Noura Erakat a Palestinian American who just might have a bias view Would you accept an interview by Benjamin Netanyahu giving the alternative view as absolute proof?
Noura Erakat states that Israel doesn't have a boarder but then adds that they sought of do based on the 1949 Armistice Agreement TBH it sounds a bit like she is making it up as she goes along.
She also admits that Hamas is not an organisation which is good for the average Palestinian and doesn't represent the views of that population. You then have to wonder why Hamas have been consistently elected by the people of Gaza as their Government?
I'm sorry but the likes of Noura Erakat are part of the problem just as much as Benjamin Netanyahu, Hamas and Donald Trump. What is needed is real people from the Palestinians and the Israeli's to get together and come up with a workable two states solution to this mess.
I agree you cannot take every word for gospel. However, what she says about the borders is correct. Not all of Israels borders are internationally recognised, the majority are disputed, as Israel continues to illegally expand.
With regards to voting of Hamas, there hasn't been an election in Palestine since December 2005. It seems as if the people have lost faith in Hamas. This poll suggests the Palestinians actually support Abbas.
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/uplo ... ne2014.pdf
Why did they vote Hamas in the first place?
Abbas are considered very corrupt, at the time Hamas came across as less corrupt. Abbas had been in power for a long time and had never delivered on their promises, so the Palestinians lost hope in them and probably felt change would do them good.
I am no fan of Hamas, not at all. But you must remember they are much more than a millitary organisation, they also run schools and hospitals, and even affiliate food banks. At the time Abbas were in power, Hamas seemed much more socially minded.
Thu May 17, 2018 9:33 am
JimCP91 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:paulh_85 wrote:not sure you know what anti-Semitic means
I'm pretty sure Wez knows exactly what Anti-Semitism is as do we all.
However, when arguments about Israel break out the lines become blurred between anti-Semitism and justifiable criticism of Israel.
But for sure some people are motivated by their hate of Jews and that is quite obvious from some comments in this thread.
I don't often agree with you but you are bang on with this ,jim says he not anti Semitic then says he's against the state of Israel strange theroy
The state of Israels aggression, expansion and actions - yes. Against Jewish people having a home - no.
As mentioned above, I am all for a two state solution.
Thu May 17, 2018 9:37 am
JimCP91 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:paulh_85 wrote:not sure you know what anti-Semitic means
I'm pretty sure Wez knows exactly what Anti-Semitism is as do we all.
However, when arguments about Israel break out the lines become blurred between anti-Semitism and justifiable criticism of Israel.
But for sure some people are motivated by their hate of Jews and that is quite obvious from some comments in this thread.
I don't often agree with you but you are bang on with this ,jim says he not anti Semitic then says he's against the state of Israel strange theroy
The state of Israels aggression, expansion and actions - yes. Against Jewish people having a home - no.
As mentioned above, I am all for a two state solution.
Thu May 17, 2018 9:37 am
wez1927 wrote:JimCP91 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:paulh_85 wrote:not sure you know what anti-Semitic means
I'm pretty sure Wez knows exactly what Anti-Semitism is as do we all.
However, when arguments about Israel break out the lines become blurred between anti-Semitism and justifiable criticism of Israel.
But for sure some people are motivated by their hate of Jews and that is quite obvious from some comments in this thread.
I don't often agree with you but you are bang on with this ,jim says he not anti Semitic then says he's against the state of Israel strange theroy
The state of Israels aggression, expansion and actions - yes. Against Jewish people having a home - no.
As mentioned above, I am all for a two state solution.
How can there ever be a two state solution, when Hamas doesn't recognise isreal ?
Thu May 17, 2018 9:40 am
wez1927 wrote:How can there ever be a two state solution, when Hamas doesn't recognise isreal ?
Thu May 17, 2018 9:41 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:JimCP91 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:paulh_85 wrote:not sure you know what anti-Semitic means
I'm pretty sure Wez knows exactly what Anti-Semitism is as do we all.
However, when arguments about Israel break out the lines become blurred between anti-Semitism and justifiable criticism of Israel.
But for sure some people are motivated by their hate of Jews and that is quite obvious from some comments in this thread.
I don't often agree with you but you are bang on with this ,jim says he not anti Semitic then says he's against the state of Israel strange theroy
The state of Israels aggression, expansion and actions - yes. Against Jewish people having a home - no.
As mentioned above, I am all for a two state solution.
But you are against Zionism? That is to establish a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. A bit of a contradiction?
Thu May 17, 2018 9:42 am
ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
That’s the thing Israel say things but never back it up by showing evidence.
The truth is this was a massacre against the Palestinians and not even one Israelie touched,never mind injured.
Not even a shot fired by a Palestinian.
Oops I forgot Wez, will show you some stones thrown or a couple of fires.
I wouldn't of put you down as a nazi annis sort yourself out I showed you on Facebook the truth ,and you know it ! ,the peoole killed over 53 if them were Hamas fighters confirmed by Hamas themselves, I cant believ3 you are a terrorist lover
Israel only for the jews. Non-jews cannot settle in Israel. Germany for the German people 1940's.
Who's domestic policies more Nazi like
Another antisemitic person
If you love Israel so much Wez go live there. Oh just realised, your not allowed. Sorry!!
Thu May 17, 2018 9:55 am
Forever Blue wrote:ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to see evidence of Hamas "storming the border". by storming the border I don't mean pictures of innocent and some disabled citizens launching stones at a buffer zone with not 1 Israeli resident nor military rep. in sight.
as mentioned, Israel doesn't have a border and it continuously tries to take more and more land from the Palestinian people, through military force, illegally. of course they have a right to protest and to defend themselves if necessary, and so should anybody else who face the same treatment.
That’s the thing Israel say things but never back it up by showing evidence.
The truth is this was a massacre against the Palestinians and not even one Israelie touched,never mind injured.
Not even a shot fired by a Palestinian.
Oops I forgot Wez, will show you some stones thrown or a couple of fires.
I wouldn't of put you down as a nazi annis sort yourself out I showed you on Facebook the truth ,and you know it ! ,the peoole killed over 53 if them were Hamas fighters confirmed by Hamas themselves, I cant believ3 you are a terrorist lover
Israel only for the jews. Non-jews cannot settle in Israel. Germany for the German people 1940's.
Who's domestic policies more Nazi like
Another antisemitic person
If you love Israel so much Wez go live there. Oh just realised, your not allowed. Sorry!!