bluemun wrote:My only concern is that after the money wasted on Cornelius and almost all of Ole's crap signings Tan will be too wary.
Warnock Needs proper backing, so we can compete for the likes of Andre Grey.
vietaff wrote:What is the facination with Andre Grey, he is awful in the PL, not a 10-15 year a season striker that will gelp keep us up?
Id love Danny Ings or someone hungry to do well and of course Ings would be a loan signing so no fee
2blue2handle wrote:vietaff wrote:What is the facination with Andre Grey, he is awful in the PL, not a 10-15 year a season striker that will gelp keep us up?
Id love Danny Ings or someone hungry to do well and of course Ings would be a loan signing so no fee
As opposed to ings who has 3 goals since 2015.
bluemun wrote:My only concern is that after the money wasted on Cornelius and almost all of Ole's crap signings Tan will be too wary.
Warnock Needs proper backing, so we can compete for the likes of Andre Grey.
RV Casual wrote:bluemun wrote:My only concern is that after the money wasted on Cornelius and almost all of Ole's crap signings Tan will be too wary.
Warnock Needs proper backing, so we can compete for the likes of Andre Grey.
All of Ole's crap signings?????
What, like Manga, Fabio and Morrison for example, swapping Odemwingie for Jones, bringing in Zaha on loan (granted it didn't work out but was hardly a crap signing), Juan Cala on a free. Pilkington.
Ole made mistakes but no more than any other manager, some of his signings have been superb.
2blue2handle wrote:vietaff wrote:What is the facination with Andre Grey, he is awful in the PL, not a 10-15 year a season striker that will gelp keep us up?
Id love Danny Ings or someone hungry to do well and of course Ings would be a loan signing so no fee
As opposed to ings who has 3 goals since 2015.
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:RV Casual wrote:bluemun wrote:My only concern is that after the money wasted on Cornelius and almost all of Ole's crap signings Tan will be too wary.
Warnock Needs proper backing, so we can compete for the likes of Andre Grey.
All of Ole's crap signings?????
What, like Manga, Fabio and Morrison for example, swapping Odemwingie for Jones, bringing in Zaha on loan (granted it didn't work out but was hardly a crap signing), Juan Cala on a free. Pilkington.
Ole made mistakes but no more than any other manager, some of his signings have been superb.
Manga and Morrison very good signings...Fabio couldn’t defend, Kenwyn average at best..Cala poor..Zaha waste of space..then you add on Eikrim, Berget, Burgsteller, Guerra, Dikagca, Macheda, Adeyami and Le Fondre and yes virtually all Oles signings were absolutely abysmal.
Terrible Manager, wasted £millions and £Million’s
RV Casual wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:RV Casual wrote:bluemun wrote:My only concern is that after the money wasted on Cornelius and almost all of Ole's crap signings Tan will be too wary.
Warnock Needs proper backing, so we can compete for the likes of Andre Grey.
All of Ole's crap signings?????
What, like Manga, Fabio and Morrison for example, swapping Odemwingie for Jones, bringing in Zaha on loan (granted it didn't work out but was hardly a crap signing), Juan Cala on a free. Pilkington.
Ole made mistakes but no more than any other manager, some of his signings have been superb.
Manga and Morrison very good signings...Fabio couldn’t defend, Kenwyn average at best..Cala poor..Zaha waste of space..then you add on Eikrim, Berget, Burgsteller, Guerra, Dikagca, Macheda, Adeyami and Le Fondre and yes virtually all Oles signings were absolutely abysmal.
Terrible Manager, wasted £millions and £Million’s
No he didn't, he wasted money yes but no more than any other manager.
What about Malky, Cornelius, Odemwingie, Brayford, very lucky to get our money back on Caulker, Theophile Catherine, Amondarain, Velikonja, Kiss, Maynard.... its easy to throw names out..
Can do the same for any manager at Cardiff or otherwise.
RV Casual wrote:bluemun wrote:My only concern is that after the money wasted on Cornelius and almost all of Ole's crap signings Tan will be too wary.
Warnock Needs proper backing, so we can compete for the likes of Andre Grey.
All of Ole's crap signings?????
What, like Manga, Fabio and Morrison for example, swapping Odemwingie for Jones, bringing in Zaha on loan (granted it didn't work out but was hardly a crap signing), Juan Cala on a free. Pilkington.
Ole made mistakes but no more than any other manager, some of his signings have been superb.
dogfound wrote:always thought some people go way overboard when it comes to OGS..
whoever had come in or had we kept MM they would have struggled to keep us up. a couple of stand out games apart we were poor all season.
then we lose medel.caulker.bellers.campbell and mutch..and lose 3 of our 1st 7 games as it turned out all to teams that finish on 78 points or more { thats more points than boro or derby managed this season }...but who comes down and gets off to a flyer ? even Newcastle who kept most of their strength lost 3 in 8....for me we will never know but certainley at the point he departed our season was still alive.
nubbsy wrote:RV Casual wrote:bluemun wrote:My only concern is that after the money wasted on Cornelius and almost all of Ole's crap signings Tan will be too wary.
Warnock Needs proper backing, so we can compete for the likes of Andre Grey.
All of Ole's crap signings?????
What, like Manga, Fabio and Morrison for example, swapping Odemwingie for Jones, bringing in Zaha on loan (granted it didn't work out but was hardly a crap signing), Juan Cala on a free. Pilkington.
Ole made mistakes but no more than any other manager, some of his signings have been superb.
Ole was a car crash yes he signed good players because he had a f*cking was chest, but what's the use in having 10 good strikers on the books when u can't get a single one of them to play well. Utterly useless!
RV Casual wrote:nubbsy wrote:RV Casual wrote:bluemun wrote:My only concern is that after the money wasted on Cornelius and almost all of Ole's crap signings Tan will be too wary.
Warnock Needs proper backing, so we can compete for the likes of Andre Grey.
All of Ole's crap signings?????
What, like Manga, Fabio and Morrison for example, swapping Odemwingie for Jones, bringing in Zaha on loan (granted it didn't work out but was hardly a crap signing), Juan Cala on a free. Pilkington.
Ole made mistakes but no more than any other manager, some of his signings have been superb.
Ole was a car crash yes he signed good players because he had a f*cking was chest, but what's the use in having 10 good strikers on the books when u can't get a single one of them to play well. Utterly useless!
War Chest haha?
Err he sold Caulker and used the money to buy Morrison and Manga with some left over. Good f*cking business if you ask me!
He sigend Fabio on a free the previous January got rid of the rubbish Odemwingie and swapped him for Kenwynne who did a job.
He had Madel and Mutch sold for £13 million and spent 800k on Burgstaller.
Yes he made mistakes ie Le Fondre but name me a manager who hasn't made mistakes.
As dogfound said people go way overy board when it comes to ole
realblue82 wrote:Its amazing how fans think we will have 30 - 40m. Its never going to happen. I trust Warnock to do the right thing for our club.
RV Casual wrote:realblue82 wrote:Its amazing how fans think we will have 30 - 40m. Its never going to happen. I trust Warnock to do the right thing for our club.
Any particular reason why its 'amazing how fans think we will have 30-40m' or why 'its never going to happen' because I think to expect a budget of £30-£40m is quite frankly the very least I would expect Warnock to have.
realblue82 wrote:Because 1 Tan wouldnt fund that and 2 Warnock said he wont be signing players who will undo all the hard work to make the club financially stable.
Dont get me wrong i would like to see Cardiff spend 30m on 5 - 6 players but realistically we can do that with a 15 - 20m budget
boyo1927 wrote:Personally not too bothered to go down and back up. I would like warnock to have a decent 25 to 20m and take the best of the championship so we have the british based players in the main on same sort of wages keeping the excellent squad harmony. If we do go down we will bounce back with a stronger squad.
RV Casual wrote:realblue82 wrote:Because 1 Tan wouldnt fund that and 2 Warnock said he wont be signing players who will undo all the hard work to make the club financially stable.
Dont get me wrong i would like to see Cardiff spend 30m on 5 - 6 players but realistically we can do that with a 15 - 20m budget
I here what your saying mate, I just think a substantial investment in the playing squad is a risk worth taking in the hope of survival, If Tan limits Warnock to a tiny budget could that be a sign that he does not have that much faith in him as a Premier League Manager, maybe he is being advised well for once? Its all speculation thought isnt it, he could have £50 Million to play with for all we know
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:RV Casual wrote:realblue82 wrote:Because 1 Tan wouldnt fund that and 2 Warnock said he wont be signing players who will undo all the hard work to make the club financially stable.
Dont get me wrong i would like to see Cardiff spend 30m on 5 - 6 players but realistically we can do that with a 15 - 20m budget
I here what your saying mate, I just think a substantial investment in the playing squad is a risk worth taking in the hope of survival, If Tan limits Warnock to a tiny budget could that be a sign that he does not have that much faith in him as a Premier League Manager, maybe he is being advised well for once? Its all speculation thought isnt it, he could have £50 Million to play with for all we know
Totally agree. If City were to spend 15-20m it would be pointless kicking a ball, they are relegated. Team spirit alone cannot keep you in the Premier League as you need that extra quality. It is worth spending that bit extra. If you survive that first season there are huge rewards & it is so difficult to get out of the Championship. Survive the first season & then invest wisely to go from strength to strength.
2blue2handle wrote:bridgendbluebird30 wrote:RV Casual wrote:realblue82 wrote:Because 1 Tan wouldnt fund that and 2 Warnock said he wont be signing players who will undo all the hard work to make the club financially stable.
Dont get me wrong i would like to see Cardiff spend 30m on 5 - 6 players but realistically we can do that with a 15 - 20m budget
I here what your saying mate, I just think a substantial investment in the playing squad is a risk worth taking in the hope of survival, If Tan limits Warnock to a tiny budget could that be a sign that he does not have that much faith in him as a Premier League Manager, maybe he is being advised well for once? Its all speculation thought isnt it, he could have £50 Million to play with for all we know
Totally agree. If City were to spend 15-20m it would be pointless kicking a ball, they are relegated. Team spirit alone cannot keep you in the Premier League as you need that extra quality. It is worth spending that bit extra. If you survive that first season there are huge rewards & it is so difficult to get out of the Championship. Survive the first season & then invest wisely to go from strength to strength.
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