Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:35 pm
North Wales Blue wrote:He’s also got a track record of chasing the cash.
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:40 pm
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:55 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:I'm a Cardiff City fan Cardiff is my club and my priority I don't give a rats ass about short playing careers etc when the reality is these guys earn more in a week than some fans do in a year.
As said my priority is the club not the player if he's going to dither withdraw the offer and move on asap to prepare for the forthcoming season.
If he stays great if he goes well that's football.
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:07 pm
City Slicker wrote:dogfound wrote:City Slicker wrote:Wayne S wrote:dadmancat wrote:I get my coffee in Cafe Nero every day and the barista gets paid because I and other do so. He doesn't owe me a debt of gratitude or any loyalty.
It's irrelevant that these footballers earn more money - it's simple supply and demand. We're prepared to pay that much for a player because there aren't that many with those skills and if we don't someone else will.
It's not a money thing, it's a weird football thing. As I said before supporters from clubs where players earn less than you have the same strange opinions.
Poor examples.
It's totally unacceptable to compare a person that could well be earning, IN A WEEK, what a Barista may earn in over a year.
It is totally a money thing with football not aware how the other half (or 90%) live.
Not blaming the players though, as you said it's supply and demand with them just pressing for a rise like anyone in society. It's the game as a whole that is, well, just wrong.
Totally correct! If the guy thinks he can get a better deal elsewhere then it's his prerogative to leave if he's out of contract. Many may believe otherwise but I personally think he owes Warnock a debt of loyalty. Very good player for us but if money is his motivation then I think we can find a replacement elsewhere. We should stick to our guns. If you give in to one you can suddenly get a free fall out of control.
way too many assumptions..maybe its money..maybe its length of contract..maybe something else...
maybe his debt of loyalty is fully paid up with interest by him agreeing to come here { everyone seems to think it was his only option yet everyone was excited and buzzing when he signed } ..
and maybe if you and i both knew what he has been offered in comparison to others including the new players ..maybe youd think its junior is rightfully sticking to his guns {assuming it is cash } and the club needs to sort it out..
as for finding replacements.....ive read this many times re both Gunner and Junior...its sounds much easier than it is..
on paper its simple in reality finding players that fit ,that are effective and give value for money is much more difficult..eg..
over the last 2 seasons we have signed 24 players plus many loanees ...tomlin , lambert, huws,immers , camp , Amos .. etc etc..many on very good money...
out of all of them its Junior Hoilett thats made the most appearances though..i could write a list of least value for moneyy players since ive been watching..Junior wouldnt make the top 500..he OWES us nothing..
What do you think then brainbox, if it's not money in some shape of form what do you think it is? Perhaps he wants to be able to read out the pre-match announcements?
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:22 pm
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:24 pm
dogfound wrote:City Slicker wrote:dogfound wrote:City Slicker wrote:Wayne S wrote:dadmancat wrote:I get my coffee in Cafe Nero every day and the barista gets paid because I and other do so. He doesn't owe me a debt of gratitude or any loyalty.
It's irrelevant that these footballers earn more money - it's simple supply and demand. We're prepared to pay that much for a player because there aren't that many with those skills and if we don't someone else will.
It's not a money thing, it's a weird football thing. As I said before supporters from clubs where players earn less than you have the same strange opinions.
Poor examples.
It's totally unacceptable to compare a person that could well be earning, IN A WEEK, what a Barista may earn in over a year.
It is totally a money thing with football not aware how the other half (or 90%) live.
Not blaming the players though, as you said it's supply and demand with them just pressing for a rise like anyone in society. It's the game as a whole that is, well, just wrong.
Totally correct! If the guy thinks he can get a better deal elsewhere then it's his prerogative to leave if he's out of contract. Many may believe otherwise but I personally think he owes Warnock a debt of loyalty. Very good player for us but if money is his motivation then I think we can find a replacement elsewhere. We should stick to our guns. If you give in to one you can suddenly get a free fall out of control.
way too many assumptions..maybe its money..maybe its length of contract..maybe something else...
maybe his debt of loyalty is fully paid up with interest by him agreeing to come here { everyone seems to think it was his only option yet everyone was excited and buzzing when he signed } ..
and maybe if you and i both knew what he has been offered in comparison to others including the new players ..maybe youd think its junior is rightfully sticking to his guns {assuming it is cash } and the club needs to sort it out..
as for finding replacements.....ive read this many times re both Gunner and Junior...its sounds much easier than it is..
on paper its simple in reality finding players that fit ,that are effective and give value for money is much more difficult..eg..
over the last 2 seasons we have signed 24 players plus many loanees ...tomlin , lambert, huws,immers , camp , Amos .. etc etc..many on very good money...
out of all of them its Junior Hoilett thats made the most appearances though..i could write a list of least value for moneyy players since ive been watching..Junior wouldnt make the top 500..he OWES us nothing..
What do you think then brainbox, if it's not money in some shape of form what do you think it is? Perhaps he wants to be able to read out the pre-match announcements?
so now you want ME to be totally stupid and make wild assumptions too....?
Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:37 am
City Slicker wrote:dogfound wrote:City Slicker wrote:dogfound wrote:City Slicker wrote:Wayne S wrote:dadmancat wrote:I get my coffee in Cafe Nero every day and the barista gets paid because I and other do so. He doesn't owe me a debt of gratitude or any loyalty.
It's irrelevant that these footballers earn more money - it's simple supply and demand. We're prepared to pay that much for a player because there aren't that many with those skills and if we don't someone else will.
It's not a money thing, it's a weird football thing. As I said before supporters from clubs where players earn less than you have the same strange opinions.
Poor examples.
It's totally unacceptable to compare a person that could well be earning, IN A WEEK, what a Barista may earn in over a year.
It is totally a money thing with football not aware how the other half (or 90%) live.
Not blaming the players though, as you said it's supply and demand with them just pressing for a rise like anyone in society. It's the game as a whole that is, well, just wrong.
Totally correct! If the guy thinks he can get a better deal elsewhere then it's his prerogative to leave if he's out of contract. Many may believe otherwise but I personally think he owes Warnock a debt of loyalty. Very good player for us but if money is his motivation then I think we can find a replacement elsewhere. We should stick to our guns. If you give in to one you can suddenly get a free fall out of control.
way too many assumptions..maybe its money..maybe its length of contract..maybe something else...
maybe his debt of loyalty is fully paid up with interest by him agreeing to come here { everyone seems to think it was his only option yet everyone was excited and buzzing when he signed } ..
and maybe if you and i both knew what he has been offered in comparison to others including the new players ..maybe youd think its junior is rightfully sticking to his guns {assuming it is cash } and the club needs to sort it out..
as for finding replacements.....ive read this many times re both Gunner and Junior...its sounds much easier than it is..
on paper its simple in reality finding players that fit ,that are effective and give value for money is much more difficult..eg..
over the last 2 seasons we have signed 24 players plus many loanees ...tomlin , lambert, huws,immers , camp , Amos .. etc etc..many on very good money...
out of all of them its Junior Hoilett thats made the most appearances though..i could write a list of least value for moneyy players since ive been watching..Junior wouldnt make the top 500..he OWES us nothing..
What do you think then brainbox, if it's not money in some shape of form what do you think it is? Perhaps he wants to be able to read out the pre-match announcements?
so now you want ME to be totally stupid and make wild assumptions too....?
Well that's not going to be difficult is it???
Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:54 am
Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:55 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:North Wales Blue wrote:He’s also got a track record of chasing the cash.
And he who is without sin cast the first stone. We all chase the cash.
Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:20 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Thanks and your line about not condemning him before we know the facts is spot on.
Some posters on here just attack when they know nothing. It’s a sign of a limited mentality and intelligence I guess.
Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:25 am
Wayne S wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:North Wales Blue wrote:He’s also got a track record of chasing the cash.
And he who is without sin cast the first stone. We all chase the cash.
We don't all chase the cash. But it is the assumption that we do that makes the world what it is today.
Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:57 am
Wayne S wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:North Wales Blue wrote:He’s also got a track record of chasing the cash.
And he who is without sin cast the first stone. We all chase the cash.
We don't all chase the cash. But it is the assumption that we do that makes the world what it is today.