Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:18 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:34 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:03 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Danny Ward deserves to start. Played well against Arsenal and got a goal. He was also very impressive last season before his injury. Remember his brilliant goal at Forest.
Unfortunately, Kenneth Zohore has had plenty of opportunities this season to take his chance and he hasn’t. Should have scored at least one against Newcastle.
Bobby Reid is a more interesting one, we haven’t seen the best of him yet but I think he’d work well with Ward. If he can rediscover his form from last season, albeit at a higher level, then I think Ward and Reid can be a strong combination.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:11 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:23 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:31 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:38 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:44 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:52 pm
RV Casual wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Very kind of him to tell us we play a player wrongly that he doesn't even play himself
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:13 pm
RV Casual wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Very kind of him to tell us we play a player wrongly that he doesn't even play himself
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:16 pm
pembroke allan wrote:RV Casual wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Very kind of him to tell us we play a player wrongly that he doesn't even play himself
That maybe the case but he's right Ken cannot play upfront with no one within 20yds of him like he's been doing, nor is he at best with ball down channels running himself to ground , he needs balls to his feet with players backing him up, why do you think we played better upfront against arsenal? Because there was two forwards its that simple
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:34 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Problem is he must have been used wrongly wherever he has been because he is a striker who does'nt score goals. I think he has his qualities, but scoring goals is not one of them. If I remember correctly, just 9 last season, so not sure how he will equal or even get close to that this season playing against some of the best defenders in the game. We need goals to survive, and in Zohore we seem to have a striker who can't head the ball and fails to find the net. Not sure if he will ever be the answer to our goal scoring problems.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:42 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Problem is he must have been used wrongly wherever he has been because he is a striker who does'nt score goals. I think he has his qualities, but scoring goals is not one of them. If I remember correctly, just 9 last season, so not sure how he will equal or even get close to that this season playing against some of the best defenders in the game. We need goals to survive, and in Zohore we seem to have a striker who can't head the ball and fails to find the net. Not sure if he will ever be the answer to our goal scoring problems.
He also said Zahore is very good on the head. Dont know if he was referring to his hair or his heading skills. But there is a big differnce how the whole team was set up when Zahore played against Newcastle and what Ward was doing against Arsenal. Zahore was all alone, Ward had players running around him. Im not even trying to explain this to Tonteg
If people expect a lone striker with no support banging goals, they also need to realize that these are not easy to come by, and cost a lot of money.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:48 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:01 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Problem is he must have been used wrongly wherever he has been because he is a striker who does'nt score goals. I think he has his qualities, but scoring goals is not one of them. If I remember correctly, just 9 last season, so not sure how he will equal or even get close to that this season playing against some of the best defenders in the game. We need goals to survive, and in Zohore we seem to have a striker who can't head the ball and fails to find the net. Not sure if he will ever be the answer to our goal scoring problems.
He also said Zahore is very good on the head. Dont know if he was referring to his hair or his heading skills. But there is a big differnce how the whole team was set up when Zahore played against Newcastle and what Ward was doing against Arsenal. Zahore was all alone, Ward had players running around him. Im not even trying to explain this to Tonteg
If people expect a lone striker with no support banging goals, they also need to realize that these are not easy to come by, and cost a lot of money.
It's funny because Ward seemed to have more players around him when he came on against Huddersfield. This is because of his decision making, the positions he picked up and how he used the ball. Ward only had Bobby Reid up front with him against Arsenal, we played 4-4-2 meaning Hoilett and Camarasa had to play deeper in their wide positions. The players didn't magically decide to get closer to Ward, which is what you're suggesting.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:09 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Like i said El Tontego. No point.. If Zahore is alone up front, he is alone up front. No movement of his will change that, unless he comes down to midfield. Total different games and total different tactics when they played.. Maybe Ward is another spine in the England Squad? Notice i don't hold any of them over the other
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:29 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Like i said El Tontego. No point.. If Zahore is alone up front, he is alone up front. No movement of his will change that, unless he comes down to midfield. Total different games and total different tactics when they played.. Maybe Ward is another spine in the England Squad? Notice i don't hold any of them over the other
Whatever game and tactics used, a striker playing up top on his own gets judged on his ability to retain possession and bring other players into play. Like I said, Ward's footballing brain in getting himself into positions, making angles so he's available to receive the ball and his overall intelligence using the ball is streets ahead of Zohore. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I see it. Zohore is bigger, quicker and more powerful than Ward, but Ward seems the cleverer, better footballer to me so far this season.
It's frustrating, because I saw Zohore's performance home to Villa last season and he destroyed James Chester and John Terry that day. Zohore ran them both ragged, used his power to bully them and left them trailing behind with his pace. Zohore has all the attributes and he has Ronnie Jepson there to coach him on his game, but I personally think he lets himself down with his attitude and lack of application.
Obviously, I don't expect Zohore to run around like a mad man and waste energy, but he needs to learn when to come short to receive to feet, when to go on the shoulder of the last man for a through ball, when to stay in the centre, when to run the channel, I just think he makes too many wrong decisions with his positioning, which hold him back and make him look way more isolated than he should be. He doesn't seem hungry either and he currently looks very easy to play against because of his current lack of work rate. I find him incredibly frustrating, because I know he can perform so much better.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:29 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:pembroke allan wrote:RV Casual wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Very kind of him to tell us we play a player wrongly that he doesn't even play himself
That maybe the case but he's right Ken cannot play upfront with no one within 20yds of him like he's been doing, nor is he at best with ball down channels running himself to ground , he needs balls to his feet with players backing him up, why do you think we played better upfront against arsenal? Because there was two forwards its that simple
I simply think we played better up front against Arsenal because Danny Ward was on the pitch instead of Zohore. We played better up front away to Huddersfield when Ward came on instead of Zohore as well. This is because in my opinion, Danny Ward gives us a lot more up front. He wins more headers, he takes up better positions, he uses the ball better, he makes himself more available and most importantly, he covers more ground and works a lot harder.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:33 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Problem is he must have been used wrongly wherever he has been because he is a striker who does'nt score goals. I think he has his qualities, but scoring goals is not one of them. If I remember correctly, just 9 last season, so not sure how he will equal or even get close to that this season playing against some of the best defenders in the game. We need goals to survive, and in Zohore we seem to have a striker who can't head the ball and fails to find the net. Not sure if he will ever be the answer to our goal scoring problems.
He also said Zahore is very good on the head. Dont know if he was referring to his hair or his heading skills. But there is a big differnce how the whole team was set up when Zahore played against Newcastle and what Ward was doing against Arsenal. Zahore was all alone, Ward had players running around him. Im not even trying to explain this to Tonteg
If people expect a lone striker with no support banging goals, they also need to realize that these are not easy to come by, and cost a lot of money.
It's funny because Ward seemed to have more players around him when he came on against Huddersfield. This is because of his decision making, the positions he picked up and how he used the ball. Ward only had Bobby Reid up front with him against Arsenal, we played 4-4-2 meaning Hoilett and Camarasa had to play deeper in their wide positions. The players didn't magically decide to get closer to Ward, which is what you're suggesting.
Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:20 am
dogfound wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Danish manager Hareide said a few weeks ago Zahore is used completely wrong in Cardiff. He need to be set up as a target and players bounce of him and have players around him. Now he is just up there all alone. Think i agree with him..
Problem is he must have been used wrongly wherever he has been because he is a striker who does'nt score goals. I think he has his qualities, but scoring goals is not one of them. If I remember correctly, just 9 last season, so not sure how he will equal or even get close to that this season playing against some of the best defenders in the game. We need goals to survive, and in Zohore we seem to have a striker who can't head the ball and fails to find the net. Not sure if he will ever be the answer to our goal scoring problems.
He also said Zahore is very good on the head. Dont know if he was referring to his hair or his heading skills. But there is a big differnce how the whole team was set up when Zahore played against Newcastle and what Ward was doing against Arsenal. Zahore was all alone, Ward had players running around him. Im not even trying to explain this to Tonteg
If people expect a lone striker with no support banging goals, they also need to realize that these are not easy to come by, and cost a lot of money.
It's funny because Ward seemed to have more players around him when he came on against Huddersfield. This is because of his decision making, the positions he picked up and how he used the ball. Ward only had Bobby Reid up front with him against Arsenal, we played 4-4-2 meaning Hoilett and Camarasa had to play deeper in their wide positions. The players didn't magically decide to get closer to Ward, which is what you're suggesting.
you do know that Huddersfield had a player sent off...?
and for the entire time they had 11 we could barely get out of our half let alone get the ball to Ken..
Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:44 am