Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:Unbelievable that fans can turn so quickly. Neil has done absolute miracles for the club. Promoted to the premier league with limited resources against all odds. If we were to be relegated ( I 100% believe we are staying up) like mentioned by someone else there is no better guy than warnock himself to get us back up again.
I think at the beginning of the season when Tan and Warnock had meetings to discuss futures that Neil would have been completely honest and said " look Vincent. It's highly likely that we are going to be relegated come the end of the season. I'm happy to sign a 2 year deal as the man to get us back up again. Expect a lot of losses on the way, but let's build a squad capable of coming back up by signing current players on long term deals and sign top players from the championship".
The money from promotion and possible parachute payments if we are relegated will and have helped the club more than we can imagine. This is a club with a long term plan, building for the future and doing it sustainably.
If we got rid of Warnock and brought in another manager and were still relegated there is no one better than Neil to get
As the best fanbase in the country we need to get behind the lads. We have had some brilliant performances but just need a little rub of the green. Our luck can't go against us forever. We also can't rely on the January sales to keep us up as it takes time for players to settle. The squad we have is going to be the core of our results this season. We will be in a relegation battle all season and it was never going to be easy so let's stop calling for warnocks head and give him and the squad the support they need.
Believe and never give up bluebirds.
Welshman in CA wrote:Thought it with Malky last time & still have the same view with Warnock this time, should be given the whole season regardless of results. It's not like we're getting hammered 6-0 every week.
Forever Blue wrote:Ned, the worry for me is, only won win from 11 Prem games and it was against Fulham, plus the other 2 points v Newcastle/Huddersfield.
I will keep stressing even though some disagree, if we want to stay up, we have to beat clubs at home in the bottom half Brighton, Southampton, not a draws wins only
piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Ned, the worry for me is, only won win from 11 Prem games and it was against Fulham, plus the other 2 points v Newcastle/Huddersfield.
I will keep stressing even though some disagree, if we want to stay up, we have to beat clubs at home in the bottom half Brighton, Southampton, not a draws wins only
I think this is right.
The problem for me is that Warnock is now starting to make some strange decisions that don't seem to be helping.
He almost wrote off the Man City game by making 3 changes to the back four (1 positional) yet surely we should have used it as a game try things with little pressure ?
Why sub Arter on Saturday when we know he was suspended for Brighton so we could afford to run him into the ground ?
Why continue to play our best centre half, arguably best player, out of position at right back when our centre backs are certainly struggling ?
Why panic against Leicester when only one down with 15 minutes to go ? By putting Madine, Ward and Hoilett all on we lost shape and never looked like getting an equaliser. At one point Morrison was on the wing crossing for Bamba at centre forward !! That took me back to the bad old days of OGS
What has happened to Hoilett and Zohore ? Surely it's a motivational issue and calling somebody out in public (Zohore) isn't going to help ?
Is the constant "we shouldn't be here" mantra wearing a bit thin with you ? It is with me !?
I love Warnock and I'm not calling for his head, yet, but singing the fans praises at every opportunity shouldn't absolve himself of all accountability. I firmly believe that we have the players, and management team, to stay up as there are at least 3 teams worse than us. But to do that we need a change of attitude and to be more positive.
Forever Blue wrote:Ned, the worry for me is, only won win from 11 Prem games and it was against Fulham, plus the other 2 points v Newcastle/Huddersfield.
I will keep stressing even though some disagree, if we want to stay up, we have to beat clubs at home in the bottom half Brighton, Southampton, not a draws wins only
worcester_ccfc wrote:Forever Blue wrote:
Starting on Saturday. I think that’s a game we can and should win.
Mr Potato wrote:Whilst I am critical of our manager and rightly so this season, sacking him isn’t the answer. But, he can’t afford to have a poor window in jan, he has to address areas of the squad desperate for improvement. He says he hasn’t had a fair crack at managing in this division, well he is getting that now, so no I don’t think there is any pressure but he has to stop pushing square pegs in round holes.
DandoCCFC wrote:I think any manager should be under pressure with the form we are on, the performance and work rate is there though.
I hate the whole 'No-one can do a better job under circumstances and with the squad we got' that is the biggest load of tosh.. any manager can come in and make a quick impact no matter the squad.. eg that Portuguese guy at Swansea he picked up results straight away all be it they did go down but to say another manager couldn't accumulate points is absloute nonsense and people are saying that in favour and being biased wanting Warnock to stay.
I think we should give him the full season no matter what happens but let him go if we go down then that way we don't have worry about going into a mess because the new manager could have a full pre season coming in which won't unsteady the club.
I didn't go Saturday so can't comment on how we played etc but in the home games and Spurs away I seen enough with a striker with experience we can actually stay up but we need to win ugly because we seem to be trying to win playing expansive and a way we don't usually associate with Cardiff.
I think Warnock gets away with a few things because of what he done since he first came in but I do think he should get the full season.
Clubfortyfourer wrote:I agree that Warnock has made some strange decisions this season and giving negative statements is not helping and definitely not inspiring anyone.Wasn’t Warnock reluctantly persuaded to come back for one more season and he stated he wasn’t getting any younger, I think this his last season, even if he lasts to the end of the season. I don’t think his heart is in it this season,whether he’s distracted but we are not firing on all cylinders.I hope I’m wrong but our results tell the story.
dogfound wrote:Clubfortyfourer wrote:I agree that Warnock has made some strange decisions this season and giving negative statements is not helping and definitely not inspiring anyone.Wasn’t Warnock reluctantly persuaded to come back for one more season and he stated he wasn’t getting any younger, I think this his last season, even if he lasts to the end of the season. I don’t think his heart is in it this season,whether he’s distracted but we are not firing on all cylinders.I hope I’m wrong but our results tell the story.
and what story do the results tell...apart from the obvious one that if you used logic and reason to assess our chances this year we stood very little chance of being anywhere other than where we are now.
this idea that a team full of second tier players should be doing much better and its the managers fault they are not is nothing short of mental.
dogfound wrote:Mr Potato wrote:Whilst I am critical of our manager and rightly so this season, sacking him isn’t the answer. But, he can’t afford to have a poor window in jan, he has to address areas of the squad desperate for improvement. He says he hasn’t had a fair crack at managing in this division, well he is getting that now, so no I don’t think there is any pressure but he has to stop pushing square pegs in round holes.
nobody was predicting we would go up even when we had been in the top 2 for months..
and pretty much every neutral predicts bottom place for us this year.
the budget was meagre
and he is having a fair crack....?
Mr Potato wrote:dogfound wrote:Mr Potato wrote:Whilst I am critical of our manager and rightly so this season, sacking him isn’t the answer. But, he can’t afford to have a poor window in jan, he has to address areas of the squad desperate for improvement. He says he hasn’t had a fair crack at managing in this division, well he is getting that now, so no I don’t think there is any pressure but he has to stop pushing square pegs in round holes.
nobody was predicting we would go up even when we had been in the top 2 for months..
and pretty much every neutral predicts bottom place for us this year.
the budget was meagre
and he is having a fair crack....?
He had money left and chose not to spend it, we had to be sensible I accept that but Warnock left us short as he failed to address right back, he waited for grujic, ok that worked out eventually, he waiterd for Abraham but that cost us, he didn’t learn from the grujic fiasco and just let it go. So yes, he’s had a fair crack. Had he been told he can’t sign players no budget fair enough, but Warnock said in a press conferece he had money to spend. And what he had he’s wasted on players that don’t actually play. Ok smithies I get, Cunningham though, he should have got a right back rather than £4m on a back up left back. Reid for £10 or £11m questionable it’s not as if we have played him week in week out.
He has left short of quality, I am sick of hearing we shouldn’t be here, we are here, no one predicted we’d go up, but we did go up. Our target was play offs to have a crack at going up so quite why we are so surprised is a mystery, ok we didn’t predict automatically but of the club targets play off it must have had a plan should we actually go up!! Obviously not.
Every week it’s same quotes, and it’s worn thin, every week we say we are mile behind whoever we play, and now Brighton will be the same and our excuses are ready as we shouldn’t be here. Arter is out, Brighton are established, we knew it would be tough but we can’t fault the effort.
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