Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:59 am
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Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:06 am
TAP_Sheep wrote:They will completely surpass us in the next couple of years. Our academy has been poor for a while.
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:23 am
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:14 am
bluebird04 wrote:the fact we have to go "lets look at the past 10 years"....shows how far behind we are, Swansea are doing it out of necessity however the players seem to be upto the standard,
we wont have any academy players now for another 10 years....why, because we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while trying to avoid relegation. if we do go down, we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while chasing promotion. we need to be an established premier league team, in order to be able to bleed academy players through
Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:00 pm
pembroke allan wrote:bluebird04 wrote:the fact we have to go "lets look at the past 10 years"....shows how far behind we are, Swansea are doing it out of necessity however the players seem to be upto the standard,
we wont have any academy players now for another 10 years....why, because we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while trying to avoid relegation. if we do go down, we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while chasing promotion. we need to be an established premier league team, in order to be able to bleed academy players through
What it shows is despite 6 or more years in premiership their academy as not produced anymore players than we have! Yes our academy as been failed by the club but how can people say we are ten yrs behind another club when despite many years in premiership they've had no more academy players playing for wales than we've had in that time.... in fact you could say swansea have failed to capitalise on being in premiership for those years ?
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:23 pm
Fusilier52 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebird04 wrote:the fact we have to go "lets look at the past 10 years"....shows how far behind we are, Swansea are doing it out of necessity however the players seem to be upto the standard,
we wont have any academy players now for another 10 years....why, because we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while trying to avoid relegation. if we do go down, we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while chasing promotion. we need to be an established premier league team, in order to be able to bleed academy players through
What it shows is despite 6 or more years in premiership their academy as not produced anymore players than we have! Yes our academy as been failed by the club but how can people say we are ten yrs behind another club when despite many years in premiership they've had no more academy players playing for wales than we've had in that time.... in fact you could say swansea have failed to capitalise on being in premiership for those years ?
I think you're missing the point of an Academy , which is to produce players to furnish the 1st team ,to play for your country is a by product of that Academy , I'd have to say Swansea have and will produce more 1st team players from the Academy than Cardiff due to the respective Clubs positions atm .How many development players are in Cardiff's squad compared to Swansea's now and going back to 2008/9
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:53 pm
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:45 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Fusilier52 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebird04 wrote:the fact we have to go "lets look at the past 10 years"....shows how far behind we are, Swansea are doing it out of necessity however the players seem to be upto the standard,
we wont have any academy players now for another 10 years....why, because we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while trying to avoid relegation. if we do go down, we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while chasing promotion. we need to be an established premier league team, in order to be able to bleed academy players through
What it shows is despite 6 or more years in premiership their academy as not produced anymore players than we have! Yes our academy as been failed by the club but how can people say we are ten yrs behind another club when despite many years in premiership they've had no more academy players playing for wales than we've had in that time.... in fact you could say swansea have failed to capitalise on being in premiership for those years ?
I think you're missing the point of an Academy , which is to produce players to furnish the 1st team ,to play for your country is a by product of that Academy , I'd have to say Swansea have and will produce more 1st team players from the Academy than Cardiff due to the respective Clubs positions atm .How many development players are in Cardiff's squad compared to Swansea's now and going back to 2008/9
No idea and don't particularly care tbh.
As was primarily answering the point made in OP which was about academy players from both clubs playing for wales not for the clubs 1st team, undoubtedly swans produced more than city but as said didnt particularly
Benefit swansea long term unless you count the profits made selling them to stop club losing money year on year,
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:56 pm
Fusilier52 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Fusilier52 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebird04 wrote:the fact we have to go "lets look at the past 10 years"....shows how far behind we are, Swansea are doing it out of necessity however the players seem to be upto the standard,
we wont have any academy players now for another 10 years....why, because we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while trying to avoid relegation. if we do go down, we cannot afford to risk playing a youth player while chasing promotion. we need to be an established premier league team, in order to be able to bleed academy players through
What it shows is despite 6 or more years in premiership their academy as not produced anymore players than we have! Yes our academy as been failed by the club but how can people say we are ten yrs behind another club when despite many years in premiership they've had no more academy players playing for wales than we've had in that time.... in fact you could say swansea have failed to capitalise on being in premiership for those years ?
I think you're missing the point of an Academy , which is to produce players to furnish the 1st team ,to play for your country is a by product of that Academy , I'd have to say Swansea have and will produce more 1st team players from the Academy than Cardiff due to the respective Clubs positions atm .How many development players are in Cardiff's squad compared to Swansea's now and going back to 2008/9
No idea and don't particularly care tbh.
As was primarily answering the point made in OP which was about academy players from both clubs playing for wales not for the clubs 1st team, undoubtedly swans produced more than city but as said didnt particularly
Benefit swansea long term unless you count the profits made selling them to stop club losing money year on year,
I appreciate the OP's point about playing international rather than club football , but the two are linked and to say that Swansea haven't benefited long term is incorrect ,J Allan's sale of 15 million ? and Ben Davies for example must have gone some way in paying for the two facilities at fairwood and landore , the current senior Welsh squad has two current Swansea players along with the two mentioned above then the U21 squad has 7 from Swansea compared to 1 from Cardiff , regardless of where they come from it's good to see that local Welsh Clubs are bringing players through the system but have a long way to go to hold onto youngsters who disappear into England, hopefully that will change
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:01 am