Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:01 am
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:10 am
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:11 pm
RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:54 pm
RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:55 pm
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:23 pm
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:26 pm
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:44 pm
Forever Blue wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
Your thoughts and beliefs were exactly like mine
I grew up in the 70's the only Cardiff fans in a Cardiff School, who supported Cardiff City, they all supported Liverpool, Leeds and Man United in School, but I always believed and dreamed we could one day be in top flight football, have big crowds and be as big as them.
Part of my dream/beliefs came true when Malky took us to wembley and we drew 2-2 with Liverpool in the League Cup Final
We had finally made it on the big stage in my opinion and held the Mighty Liverpool, My oldest daughter walked out of the ground with me and said Daddy, we drew with Liverpool they could not beat us, I had a tear in my eye as I had hated Liverpool all through my school days
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:14 pm
Forever Blue wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
Your thoughts and beliefs were exactly like mine
I grew up in the 70's the only Cardiff fans in a Cardiff School, who supported Cardiff City, they all supported Liverpool, Leeds and Man United in School, but I always believed and dreamed we could one day be in top flight football, have big crowds and be as big as them.
Part of my dream/beliefs came true when Malky took us to wembley and we drew 2-2 with Liverpool in the League Cup Final
We had finally made it on the big stage in my opinion and held the Mighty Liverpool, My oldest daughter walked out of the ground with me and said Daddy, we drew with Liverpool they could not beat us, I had a tear in my eye as I had hated Liverpool all through my school days
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:51 pm
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:10 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
Your thoughts and beliefs were exactly like mine
I grew up in the 70's the only Cardiff fans in a Cardiff School, who supported Cardiff City, they all supported Liverpool, Leeds and Man United in School, but I always believed and dreamed we could one day be in top flight football, have big crowds and be as big as them.
Part of my dream/beliefs came true when Malky took us to wembley and we drew 2-2 with Liverpool in the League Cup Final
We had finally made it on the big stage in my opinion and held the Mighty Liverpool, My oldest daughter walked out of the ground with me and said Daddy, we drew with Liverpool they could not beat us, I had a tear in my eye as I had hated Liverpool all through my school days
Even in the 90s I was pretty much the only Cardiff fan at school.
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:13 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:I heard and read all about us being a sleeping giant throughout the fifty odd years I have been a supporter. We may be a decent size club but I think the sleeping giant but is pushing things a bit far. Ninian Park could hold around 50k or so in my earlier days as a fan, but I can only really remember one time that we got anywhere close to that, and that was for the Real Madrid game. I have said for a long time that if we are in the second tier we will average anywhere between 12k and 20k or so depending on whether or not we are challenging for promotion, and we will usually get around 30k or so in the top flight. Those of us who have been around long enough know what we will get if we are struggling in the bottom two divisions, and the less said about those sort of gates the better.
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
RV Casual wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:I heard and read all about us being a sleeping giant throughout the fifty odd years I have been a supporter. We may be a decent size club but I think the sleeping giant but is pushing things a bit far. Ninian Park could hold around 50k or so in my earlier days as a fan, but I can only really remember one time that we got anywhere close to that, and that was for the Real Madrid game. I have said for a long time that if we are in the second tier we will average anywhere between 12k and 20k or so depending on whether or not we are challenging for promotion, and we will usually get around 30k or so in the top flight. Those of us who have been around long enough know what we will get if we are struggling in the bottom two divisions, and the less said about those sort of gates the better.
Do you not think Steve, that if we could establish ourselves in the Premier League we could not grow to a regular gate of say 40-50,000? It's only another 10-15000 on top of what we are getting now and the market is definitely out there.
As for the crowds from old, yes most of us can remember and God forbid we ever return to that, it was bad enough at Ninian Park would be even worse in our current home.
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:23 pm
Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:37 am
RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:48 am
Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:50 am
Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:52 am
LovetheSwans wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
As big as Newcastle ? Never. Newcastle can attract 50,000, regardless of how the team is doing.
Cardiff is in the same bracket as clubs like Bristol City, Swansea, etc, do well and the crowds will turn up, do badly and they disappear.
If you do manage to stay up, you could gain momentum and build for the future, but be as big as Newcastle, no chance.
Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:45 am
LovetheSwans wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
As big as Newcastle ? Never. Newcastle can attract 50,000, regardless of how the team is doing.
Cardiff is in the same bracket as clubs like Bristol City, Swansea, etc, do well and the crowds will turn up, do badly and they disappear.
If you do manage to stay up, you could gain momentum and build for the future, but be as big as Newcastle, no chance.
Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:02 am
Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:07 am
RV Casual wrote:LovetheSwans wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
As big as Newcastle ? Never. Newcastle can attract 50,000, regardless of how the team is doing.
Cardiff is in the same bracket as clubs like Bristol City, Swansea, etc, do well and the crowds will turn up, do badly and they disappear.
If you do manage to stay up, you could gain momentum and build for the future, but be as big as Newcastle, no chance.
Well we arnt doing to bad as we are attracting 31,500 and have been in the relegation zone for most of the season, been uncompetitive in lots of games and it's only our second season in the top flight in 55 years
We are the 13th best supported Club in the country and there are still lost generations and pubs and offices full of fans of their thee Clubs. So for me the potential is absolutely there.
Newcastle have spent the majority of their life in the top division and never been out of the top 2 divisions.
I see absolutely no reason whatsoever that if Cardiff sustained themselves in the Premier League for a 5-10 year period why we couldnt/wouldn't add another 10-15,000 on the gate. We could have already sold 40,000 for the big games this season easily.
Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:56 am
RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:01 am
TERRYB wrote:Forever Blue wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
Your thoughts and beliefs were exactly like mine
I grew up in the 70's the only Cardiff fans in a Cardiff School, who supported Cardiff City, they all supported Liverpool, Leeds and Man United in School, but I always believed and dreamed we could one day be in top flight football, have big crowds and be as big as them.
Part of my dream/beliefs came true when Malky took us to wembley and we drew 2-2 with Liverpool in the League Cup Final
We had finally made it on the big stage in my opinion and held the Mighty Liverpool, My oldest daughter walked out of the ground with me and said Daddy, we drew with Liverpool they could not beat us, I had a tear in my eye as I had hated Liverpool all through my school days
I remember that day at Wembley so well Annis, and I have never felt more proud to be a Cardiff fan than on that day, walked out of the stadium with head held high and all the City fans singing, so proud.
Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:08 am
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
Your thoughts and beliefs were exactly like mine
I grew up in the 70's the only Cardiff fans in a Cardiff School, who supported Cardiff City, they all supported Liverpool, Leeds and Man United in School, but I always believed and dreamed we could one day be in top flight football, have big crowds and be as big as them.
Part of my dream/beliefs came true when Malky took us to wembley and we drew 2-2 with Liverpool in the League Cup Final
We had finally made it on the big stage in my opinion and held the Mighty Liverpool, My oldest daughter walked out of the ground with me and said Daddy, we drew with Liverpool they could not beat us, I had a tear in my eye as I had hated Liverpool all through my school days
Even in the 90s I was pretty much the only Cardiff fan at school.
Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:04 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:LovetheSwans wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
As big as Newcastle ? Never. Newcastle can attract 50,000, regardless of how the team is doing.
Cardiff is in the same bracket as clubs like Bristol City, Swansea, etc, do well and the crowds will turn up, do badly and they disappear.
If you do manage to stay up, you could gain momentum and build for the future, but be as big as Newcastle, no chance.
Unfortunately I tend to agree with this version.
Most of the people I know are the typical Man U, Liverpool armchair ‘fans’ and I can’t imagine Newcastle having many of these dicks in their City.
Obviously we would grow if we had an extended period in the Prem, but Newcastle? No way. It’s a bloody religion up there.
Here it seems I’m surrounded by plastic armchair Premier ‘fans’ and pretend rugby ‘fans’.
Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:40 pm
LovetheSwans wrote:RV Casual wrote:LovetheSwans wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
As big as Newcastle ? Never. Newcastle can attract 50,000, regardless of how the team is doing.
Cardiff is in the same bracket as clubs like Bristol City, Swansea, etc, do well and the crowds will turn up, do badly and they disappear.
If you do manage to stay up, you could gain momentum and build for the future, but be as big as Newcastle, no chance.
Well we arnt doing to bad as we are attracting 31,500 and have been in the relegation zone for most of the season, been uncompetitive in lots of games and it's only our second season in the top flight in 55 years
We are the 13th best supported Club in the country and there are still lost generations and pubs and offices full of fans of their thee Clubs. So for me the potential is absolutely there.
Newcastle have spent the majority of their life in the top division and never been out of the top 2 divisions.
I see absolutely no reason whatsoever that if Cardiff sustained themselves in the Premier League for a 5-10 year period why we couldnt/wouldn't add another 10-15,000 on the gate. We could have already sold 40,000 for the big games this season easily.
The same could be said of Nottingham forest, Derby, Portsmouth, West Brom, Bristol city, Coventry, Stoke, Sunderland, Plymouth, both Sheffield clubs, Preston, Hull etc, even Swansea can attract big support when the conditions are right. And that’s the problem there are many, many clubs that could potentially attract big crowds if the conditions are right. As for Newcastle, they are already a big club and that’s without them archiving virtually nothing for decades.
Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:57 am
Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:51 pm
LovetheSwans wrote:RV Casual wrote:LovetheSwans wrote:RV Casual wrote:When I was a child supporting Cardiff we were always labelled a sleeping giant and even though there is sometimes doubt over whether we are or not I honestly believe we could be as big as a Newcastle one day.
That's why this shot at the EPL and the next few weeks are massive for me. I really think if we stay up this Club can go from strength to strength, go down and I'm worried. Not for the long term future of the Club as I think we are in sensible hands, but in terms of support and etc we could be set back years.
Even as I sit here typing this now I look around my office and theres about 200 people on my floor, at least 70 are blokes and I'm the only Cardiff fan here amongst Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs etc. The talk this week is all Champions League. Imagine a time where we are an established top flight Club and these offices aew filled with Cardiff fans. Our Club would be huge.
That's the aim.
As big as Newcastle ? Never. Newcastle can attract 50,000, regardless of how the team is doing.
Cardiff is in the same bracket as clubs like Bristol City, Swansea, etc, do well and the crowds will turn up, do badly and they disappear.
If you do manage to stay up, you could gain momentum and build for the future, but be as big as Newcastle, no chance.
Well we arnt doing to bad as we are attracting 31,500 and have been in the relegation zone for most of the season, been uncompetitive in lots of games and it's only our second season in the top flight in 55 years
We are the 13th best supported Club in the country and there are still lost generations and pubs and offices full of fans of their thee Clubs. So for me the potential is absolutely there.
Newcastle have spent the majority of their life in the top division and never been out of the top 2 divisions.
I see absolutely no reason whatsoever that if Cardiff sustained themselves in the Premier League for a 5-10 year period why we couldnt/wouldn't add another 10-15,000 on the gate. We could have already sold 40,000 for the big games this season easily.
The same could be said of Nottingham forest, Derby, Portsmouth, West Brom, Bristol city, Coventry, Stoke, Sunderland, Plymouth, both Sheffield clubs, Preston, Hull etc, even Swansea can attract big support when the conditions are right. And that’s the problem there are many, many clubs that could potentially attract big crowds if the conditions are right. As for Newcastle, they are already a big club and that’s without them archiving virtually nothing for decades.