Barclay1 wrote:A youth player without a club.
And of course we'll say He signed from Spurs just like McGuiness was signed from 'Arsenal'.
Barclay1 wrote:A youth player without a club.
And of course we'll say He signed from Spurs just like McGuiness was signed from 'Arsenal'.
bluelover wrote:Barclay1 wrote:A youth player without a club.
And of course we'll say He signed from Spurs just like McGuiness was signed from 'Arsenal'.
Youth players without a club as whilst they could have stayed at Spurs and Arsenal they decided to seek opportunities elsewhere.
Barclay1 wrote:bluelover wrote:Barclay1 wrote:A youth player without a club.
And of course we'll say He signed from Spurs just like McGuiness was signed from 'Arsenal'.
Youth players without a club as whilst they could have stayed at Spurs and Arsenal they decided to seek opportunities elsewhere.
Or, as In the case of both, were released as surplus to requirements
bluelover wrote:Barclay1 wrote:bluelover wrote:Barclay1 wrote:A youth player without a club.
And of course we'll say He signed from Spurs just like McGuiness was signed from 'Arsenal'.
Youth players without a club as whilst they could have stayed at Spurs and Arsenal they decided to seek opportunities elsewhere.
Or, as In the case of both, were released as surplus to requirements
But they weren’t, they were offered extensions but left by choice
Sven wrote:Barclay1 wrote:A youth player without a club.
And of course we'll say He signed from Spurs just like McGuiness was signed from 'Arsenal'.
Does it really matter...?
The boy is either good enough or not and the source of his (football) education is valid whether he's still with them or not; same as McGuiness
bluesince62 wrote:bluelover wrote:Barclay1 wrote:bluelover wrote:Barclay1 wrote:A youth player without a club.
And of course we'll say He signed from Spurs just like McGuiness was signed from 'Arsenal'.
Youth players without a club as whilst they could have stayed at Spurs and Arsenal they decided to seek opportunities elsewhere.
Or, as In the case of both, were released as surplus to requirements
But they weren’t, they were offered extensions but left by choice
Dont let facts get in the way mate!!
bluelover wrote:bluesince62 wrote:bluelover wrote:Barclay1 wrote:bluelover wrote:Barclay1 wrote:A youth player without a club.
And of course we'll say He signed from Spurs just like McGuiness was signed from 'Arsenal'.
Youth players without a club as whilst they could have stayed at Spurs and Arsenal they decided to seek opportunities elsewhere.
Or, as In the case of both, were released as surplus to requirements
But they weren’t, they were offered extensions but left by choice
Dont let facts get in the way mate!!
What facts are you working on then mate?
Thorpe was offered a 12 month extension by Spurs. McGuiness was still on Arsenal's books and an undisclosed fee was paid
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... ff-5946341
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... r-cardiff/
nickjonesrox2 wrote:Please lord let this one come off
Lengee wrote:nickjonesrox2 wrote:Please lord let this one come off
Exactly, we should be on our knees praying.
Some think Pack is poor (slow sideways and back) others say Vaulks doesn’t have quality and other fans blame Ralls and Bacuna. Truth be told whatever 2 or 3 they go with our midfield always seems to be a weakness.
This lad is young, with a good pedigree (well thought of by Spurs) and not wanting a contract extension cos he wants 1st team football.
Surely he MUST be a better option than what we have got.!?!
I would also get Wintle back asap, and maybe Bowen can make the the grade. If we sign Elliot then
imo we should look to offload Pack and one other midfielder in the January window.
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Lengee wrote:nickjonesrox2 wrote:Please lord let this one come off
Exactly, we should be on our knees praying.
Some think Pack is poor (slow sideways and back) others say Vaulks doesn’t have quality and other fans blame Ralls and Bacuna. Truth be told whatever 2 or 3 they go with our midfield always seems to be a weakness.
This lad is young, with a good pedigree (well thought of by Spurs) and not wanting a contract extension cos he wants 1st team football.
Surely he MUST be a better option than what we have got.!?!
I would also get Wintle back asap, and maybe Bowen can make the the grade. If we sign Elliot then
imo we should look to offload Pack and one other midfielder in the January window.
Pack would not be number one of my list of midfielders to get rid of. In fact, I think he’d be one of the last.
Lengee wrote:Its a game of opinions. And I respect yours. For me, We lack a midfielder who tries to go forward, tries to be creative and inject pace. MP is like having poor mans S Morrison in midfield. (He even seems to have copied Morrisons appearance).
midfielders like Pack who don’t try to play on the front foot rarely look for forward passes and often just slow things down, tend not to get criticised so much. I guess you could argue that Pack suits our approach / style of play. But, for me, our sryle of play is often dreadful, especially (as in recent games) where we lack any winger and any pace.
However, as I say, I could be wrong and its all about opinions.
Lengee wrote:Its a game of opinions. And I respect yours. For me, We lack a midfielder who tries to go forward, tries to be creative and inject pace. MP is like having poor mans S Morrison in midfield. (He even seems to have copied Morrisons appearance).
midfielders like Pack who don’t try to play on the front foot rarely look for forward passes and often just slow things down, tend not to get criticised so much. I guess you could argue that Pack suits our approach / style of play. But, for me, our sryle of play is often dreadful, especially (as in recent games) where we lack any winger and any pace.
However, as I say, I could be wrong and its all about opinions.
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Lengee wrote:Its a game of opinions. And I respect yours. For me, We lack a midfielder who tries to go forward, tries to be creative and inject pace. MP is like having poor mans S Morrison in midfield. (He even seems to have copied Morrisons appearance).
midfielders like Pack who don’t try to play on the front foot rarely look for forward passes and often just slow things down, tend not to get criticised so much. I guess you could argue that Pack suits our approach / style of play. But, for me, our sryle of play is often dreadful, especially (as in recent games) where we lack any winger and any pace.
However, as I say, I could be wrong and its all about opinions.
Yes but Pack, in my opinion, is a defensive midfielder and we don’t need him to be on the front foot although you watch him and he does try to pass forward when he can. The problem is when he looks up most of the forward thinking players are running away looking for the long ball.
The problem is the midfielders around Pack. They’re the ones who should be taking the ball from him and being on the front foot. But basically, they’re pretty shite.
We desperately need Ralls and Giles back in the starting 11.
Alan_in_China wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Lengee wrote:Its a game of opinions. And I respect yours. For me, We lack a midfielder who tries to go forward, tries to be creative and inject pace. MP is like having poor mans S Morrison in midfield. (He even seems to have copied Morrisons appearance).
midfielders like Pack who don’t try to play on the front foot rarely look for forward passes and often just slow things down, tend not to get criticised so much. I guess you could argue that Pack suits our approach / style of play. But, for me, our sryle of play is often dreadful, especially (as in recent games) where we lack any winger and any pace.
However, as I say, I could be wrong and its all about opinions.
Yes but Pack, in my opinion, is a defensive midfielder and we don’t need him to be on the front foot although you watch him and he does try to pass forward when he can. The problem is when he looks up most of the forward thinking players are running away looking for the long ball.
The problem is the midfielders around Pack. They’re the ones who should be taking the ball from him and being on the front foot. But basically, they’re pretty shite.
We desperately need Ralls and Giles back in the starting 11.
Desperately need Ralls to return, like he's going to to be our saviour?
Ralls is part of our on-going midfield problem. He's one-paced, gets the wrong side of his man in the tackle, doesn't have a good first touch, passing is often erratic and he seldom drives forward with the ball.
moonboots wrote:Thorpe off to Luton!!!
Don't say we can't put together a more attractive offer than Luton Town. Or perhaps we never approached him.
Forever Blue wrote:“ The latest on Elliot Thorpe? “
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moonboots wrote:Thorpe off to Luton!!!
Don't say we can't put together a more attractive offer than Luton Town. Or perhaps we never approached him.
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