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Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:40 pm

Seen a few saying it would really hurt Tan if fans boycotted the games because of the financial impact.

So I decided to do a bit of maths on it - not entirely accurate, but it gives you an idea.


Let's say we have around 12,000 season ticket holders and they each pay £400. That brings in just under 209k per game. Of course some season tickets are cheaper than that and a few more expensive. But this is just a rough number.

For the sake of argument, say there's 6,000 who buy individual tickets for a game. That's 180,000 per game. Again, this is a rough number.

That would bring in just under £5m over the season.

Our wage bill on some sites is estimated at about £392k per week for the playing staff.

So that £5m equates to the wages for three months - that's it.

These numbers are also based on whether 100% of fans wouldn't go to games. That's just not going to happen, it would be more like 30% maximum. Season tickets are already paid for so they wouldn't impact anything until next season.


It is not a great deal of money for the club.

Tan can get that money another way, such as another loan.

So all that boycotting games would achieve is fans kicking themselves in the foot.

The other thing it would do is encourage Tan to cost cut even more, putting the club in an even worse state and just getting by day to day as a business.

Robertson and Daland supposedly cost us around £5m between them. You can say goodbye to signings like that.

It is not the answer and helps nobody.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:52 pm

2023's annual report says our turnover was £26M, based your figures is just shy of 20% of our turnover. When operating at a reported loss, it'd be significant.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:54 pm

SB 1927 wrote:2023's annual report says our turnover was £26M, based your figures is just shy of 20% of our turnover. When operating at a reported loss, it'd be significant.


True, but as I've said the only people who would suffer is us.

It wouldn't encourage Tan to sell and it also wouldn't make him spend more money - it would do the opposite.

All it would lead to is more cost cutting.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:56 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Seen a few saying it would really hurt Tan if fans boycotted the games because of the financial impact.

So I decided to do a bit of maths on it - not entirely accurate, but it gives you an idea.


Let's say we have around 12,000 season ticket holders and they each pay £400. That brings in just under 209k per game. Of course some season tickets are cheaper than that and a few more expensive. But this is just a rough number.

For the sake of argument, say there's 6,000 who buy individual tickets for a game. That's 180,000 per game. Again, this is a rough number.

That would bring in just under £5m over the season.

Our wage bill on some sites is estimated at about £392k per week for the playing staff.

So that £5m equates to the wages for three months - that's it.

These numbers are also based on whether 100% of fans wouldn't go to games. That's just not going to happen, it would be more like 30% maximum. Season tickets are already paid for so they wouldn't impact anything until next season.


It is not a great deal of money for the club.

Tan can get that money another way, such as another loan.

So all that boycotting games would achieve is fans kicking themselves in the foot.

The other thing it would do is encourage Tan to cost cut even more, putting the club in an even worse state and just getting by day to day as a business.

Robertson and Daland supposedly cost us around £5m between them. You can say goodbye to signings like that.

It is not the answer and helps nobody.


The best way is for the stadium be full to capacity on a live coverage game on sky tv and everybody brings a banner with tan out ,
can you imagine that full the canton end,
and continious chanting against the board througout the game.

Putting up a banner outside the ground and chanting outside the stadium is going to do f.ck all,
its infront of the cameras visible and loud
that should rattle Tans cage
but we need a full stadium to cheer on the team at the same time .

staying away as a protest is happening now and who the f.ck is taking any notice

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:59 pm

montyblue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Seen a few saying it would really hurt Tan if fans boycotted the games because of the financial impact.

So I decided to do a bit of maths on it - not entirely accurate, but it gives you an idea.


Let's say we have around 12,000 season ticket holders and they each pay £400. That brings in just under 209k per game. Of course some season tickets are cheaper than that and a few more expensive. But this is just a rough number.

For the sake of argument, say there's 6,000 who buy individual tickets for a game. That's 180,000 per game. Again, this is a rough number.

That would bring in just under £5m over the season.

Our wage bill on some sites is estimated at about £392k per week for the playing staff.

So that £5m equates to the wages for three months - that's it.

These numbers are also based on whether 100% of fans wouldn't go to games. That's just not going to happen, it would be more like 30% maximum. Season tickets are already paid for so they wouldn't impact anything until next season.


It is not a great deal of money for the club.

Tan can get that money another way, such as another loan.

So all that boycotting games would achieve is fans kicking themselves in the foot.

The other thing it would do is encourage Tan to cost cut even more, putting the club in an even worse state and just getting by day to day as a business.

Robertson and Daland supposedly cost us around £5m between them. You can say goodbye to signings like that.

It is not the answer and helps nobody.


The best way is for the stadium be full to capacity on a live coverage game on sky tv and everybody brings a banner with tan out ,
can you imagine that full the canton end,
and continious chanting against the board througout the game.

Putting up a banner outside the ground and chanting outside the stadium is going to do f.ck all,
its infront of the cameras visible and loud
that should rattle Tans cage
but we need a full stadium to cheer on the team at the same time .

staying away as a protest is happening now and who the f.ck is taking any notice


Totally agree with that.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:08 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Seen a few saying it would really hurt Tan if fans boycotted the games because of the financial impact.

So I decided to do a bit of maths on it - not entirely accurate, but it gives you an idea.


Let's say we have around 12,000 season ticket holders and they each pay £400. That brings in just under 209k per game. Of course some season tickets are cheaper than that and a few more expensive. But this is just a rough number.

For the sake of argument, say there's 6,000 who buy individual tickets for a game. That's 180,000 per game. Again, this is a rough number.

That would bring in just under £5m over the season.

Our wage bill on some sites is estimated at about £392k per week for the playing staff.

So that £5m equates to the wages for three months - that's it.

These numbers are also based on whether 100% of fans wouldn't go to games. That's just not going to happen, it would be more like 30% maximum. Season tickets are already paid for so they wouldn't impact anything until next season.


It is not a great deal of money for the club.

Tan can get that money another way, such as another loan.

So all that boycotting games would achieve is fans kicking themselves in the foot.

The other thing it would do is encourage Tan to cost cut even more, putting the club in an even worse state and just getting by day to day as a business.

Robertson and Daland supposedly cost us around £5m between them. You can say goodbye to signings like that.

It is not the answer and helps nobody.


The best way is for the stadium be full to capacity on a live coverage game on sky tv and everybody brings a banner with tan out ,
can you imagine that full the canton end,
and continious chanting against the board througout the game.

Putting up a banner outside the ground and chanting outside the stadium is going to do f.ck all,
its infront of the cameras visible and loud
that should rattle Tans cage
but we need a full stadium to cheer on the team at the same time .

staying away as a protest is happening now and who the f.ck is taking any notice


Totally agree with that.


I am very happy to turn up with a. Big f.ck off banner but i don' t think i could organise any protest not because i cannot be bothered ,
but i live in the sticks nearly 3 hours from cardiff in newtown mid wales,
and i can hardly text without making a spelling mistake let alone organize a protest online
But i think thats the way to go

perhaps our home game against the swans might be a fuller stadium and a good time unless we have another live main game
also letting sky tv know its going to be happening etc when we hsve full coverage not a red button game.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:30 pm

Be lucky to get more than couple hundred.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:09 pm

Merthyrfunhouse wrote:Be lucky to get more than couple hundred.


Odd reply?
if your in the canton end you only have to join in with the singing of,
"tan out" hardly taxing the brain.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:16 pm

montyblue wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:Be lucky to get more than couple hundred.


Odd reply?
if your in the canton end you only have to join in with the singing of,
"tan out" hardly taxing the brain.



We want you to go
We want you to go
Vincent tan
We want you to go.
Etc

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:20 pm

Well for this season I’ve had enough I won’t be going to another game unless things change either another better manager or even if tan sells up I went to my first game 1968 versus Norwich city 16 year old John toshak with George Johnston both 16 years old played and scored this manager doesn’t give youth a chance riza out and out now

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:25 pm

montyblue wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:Be lucky to get more than couple hundred.


Odd reply?
if your in the canton end you only have to join in with the singing of,
"tan out" hardly taxing the brain.


I was referring to boycotting games.
If there was an appetite for any kind of meaningful protest it would have happened by now.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:37 pm

Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:Be lucky to get more than couple hundred.


Odd reply?
if your in the canton end you only have to join in with the singing of,
"tan out" hardly taxing the brain.


I was referring to boycotting games.
If there was an appetite for any kind of meaningful protest it would have happened by now.


Apologies if you where refering to a few hundred boycoting games we are getting thousands turning away without any need for that
If you have read all the posts on this thread it would make better sence for a full house of fans to protest i don' t believe thry would hsve hapoened all ready i thunk fans are rrady to do somrthung otherwise we will sink
Just accepting it not what i would like to do i would like to join in in some protest but in the stadium not outside.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:55 pm

montyblue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Seen a few saying it would really hurt Tan if fans boycotted the games because of the financial impact.

So I decided to do a bit of maths on it - not entirely accurate, but it gives you an idea.


Let's say we have around 12,000 season ticket holders and they each pay £400. That brings in just under 209k per game. Of course some season tickets are cheaper than that and a few more expensive. But this is just a rough number.

For the sake of argument, say there's 6,000 who buy individual tickets for a game. That's 180,000 per game. Again, this is a rough number.

That would bring in just under £5m over the season.

Our wage bill on some sites is estimated at about £392k per week for the playing staff.

So that £5m equates to the wages for three months - that's it.

These numbers are also based on whether 100% of fans wouldn't go to games. That's just not going to happen, it would be more like 30% maximum. Season tickets are already paid for so they wouldn't impact anything until next season.


It is not a great deal of money for the club.

Tan can get that money another way, such as another loan.

So all that boycotting games would achieve is fans kicking themselves in the foot.

The other thing it would do is encourage Tan to cost cut even more, putting the club in an even worse state and just getting by day to day as a business.

Robertson and Daland supposedly cost us around £5m between them. You can say goodbye to signings like that.

It is not the answer and helps nobody.


The best way is for the stadium be full to capacity on a live coverage game on sky tv and everybody brings a banner with tan out ,
can you imagine that full the canton end,
and continious chanting against the board througout the game.

Putting up a banner outside the ground and chanting outside the stadium is going to do f.ck all,
its infront of the cameras visible and loud
that should rattle Tans cage
but we need a full stadium to cheer on the team at the same time .

staying away as a protest is happening now and who the f.ck is taking any notice


Completely agree monty

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:01 pm

Boycotting will have one effect and that is yo give tan an excuse to cut spending on players and putting purse in charge due to loss of income?

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:06 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
montyblue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Seen a few saying it would really hurt Tan if fans boycotted the games because of the financial impact.

So I decided to do a bit of maths on it - not entirely accurate, but it gives you an idea.


Let's say we have around 12,000 season ticket holders and they each pay £400. That brings in just under 209k per game. Of course some season tickets are cheaper than that and a few more expensive. But this is just a rough number.

For the sake of argument, say there's 6,000 who buy individual tickets for a game. That's 180,000 per game. Again, this is a rough number.

That would bring in just under £5m over the season.

Our wage bill on some sites is estimated at about £392k per week for the playing staff.

So that £5m equates to the wages for three months - that's it.

These numbers are also based on whether 100% of fans wouldn't go to games. That's just not going to happen, it would be more like 30% maximum. Season tickets are already paid for so they wouldn't impact anything until next season.


It is not a great deal of money for the club.

Tan can get that money another way, such as another loan.

So all that boycotting games would achieve is fans kicking themselves in the foot.

The other thing it would do is encourage Tan to cost cut even more, putting the club in an even worse state and just getting by day to day as a business.

Robertson and Daland supposedly cost us around £5m between them. You can say goodbye to signings like that.

It is not the answer and helps nobody.


The best way is for the stadium be full to capacity on a live coverage game on sky tv and everybody brings a banner with tan out ,
can you imagine that full the canton end,
and continious chanting against the board througout the game.

Putting up a banner outside the ground and chanting outside the stadium is going to do f.ck all,
its infront of the cameras visible and loud
that should rattle Tans cage
but we need a full stadium to cheer on the team at the same time .

staying away as a protest is happening now and who the f.ck is taking any notice


Completely agree monty


Thanks
yes pity something could not be organised for swans game in January it eill probably be on tv.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:11 pm

The boycotts started already .crowds are dropping and will get worse unless we drastically improve and I don't see any signs of that happening

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:33 pm

skiprat wrote:The boycotts started already .crowds are dropping and will get worse unless we drastically improve and I don't see any signs of that happening


Yes fans have been worn down by shit teams managers crap loans for season after season ,
tonights attendance at wales women's game was given as 16,000 that was the figure given for or game mid week against QPR

i said it was b.ll.cks there less than half the crowd compared to tonights wales women

Fans sadly have given up and are not prepared to do anything they are accepting relagation.

Re: Boycotting games

Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:39 pm

Don't buy anything it's that simple if that's how some feel. Some fans only turn up when it's good times sadly that's modern football fans these days and all ntta some know with us. They want wins every week, world class players worth millions and a new manager if we don't win five in a row. It wouldn't matter who the manager is here in my opinion with this squad which ain't good enough to push on sadly. It's rotten from the top down to the moaning fans weekly and any deemed manager or coach which is all they are these days just toes what there told from above and take the wage. When shit hits the fan it's there fault somehow when we all know it's just a name for a job but there not actually doing that role when above dictate. :bluescarf:

Re: Boycotting games

Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:53 am

montyblue wrote:
skiprat wrote:The boycotts started already .crowds are dropping and will get worse unless we drastically improve and I don't see any signs of that happening


Yes fans have been worn down by shit teams managers crap loans for season after season ,
tonights attendance at wales women's game was given as 16,000 that was the figure given for or game mid week against QPR

i said it was b.ll.cks there less than half the crowd compared to tonights wales women

Fans sadly have given up and are not prepared to do anything they are accepting relagation.


Some have given up but not all. My take is that if a protest (Tan out!) started in the ground, others on the 'fringe' would join in and maybe after a few weeks the media would sit up & take notice and there MIGHT be a snowball effect. But at least those taking part would have their say. At the moment we're doing f all.

Re: Boycotting games

Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:10 am

It's not for me.Leeds derby fans stock by their team.

Re: Boycotting games

Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:40 am

The fact that we're taking 1,800 to Coventry today tells me that fans are rightly not going to stop going to games.

Re: Boycotting games

Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:38 pm

it won't happen, Think it was the Norwich game, Dalman and Choo both there, I was in the back of the canton, tried the "we want you to go, Mehmet Dalman, we want you to go" I had a few weird looks, but no one was bothered to join in.

Re: Boycotting games

Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:57 am

bluebird04 wrote:it won't happen, Think it was the Norwich game, Dalman and Choo both there, I was in the back of the canton, tried the "we want you to go, Mehmet Dalman, we want you to go" I had a few weird looks, but no one was bothered to join in.


Why on earth would you get weird looks some fans eh?

Your there trying to to stand ip for your club.