Where do some and mean some think?

Omer Riza was brought in to save us from Relegation???

Omer Riza was part of Bulut’s Team to go for promotion.

After just “ SIX “ games Omer Riza took over and 40 games to go 120 points available:

Says he’s been backed and very happy with the squad.

Below is an example QPR were in a terrible situation and it went on for a long time and are now only 3pts from the play -off.

While we have only won 3 league games from our last 18 league games / our Worst defence for many a year and still fighting Relegation big time.

So please can those who keep saying we’ve improved and Riza was brought in to save us , explain more please?



Just look how bad QPR were and how they are now:

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Omer Riza was brought in to save us from Relegation???

Omer Riza was part of Bulut’s Team to to go for promotion.

After just “ SIX “ games Omer Riza took over and 40 games to go 120 points available:

Says he’s been backed and very happy with the squad.

Below is an example QPR were in a terrible situation and it went on for a long time and are now only 3pts from the play -off.

While we have only won 3 league games from our last 18 league games / our Worst defence for many a year and still fighting Relegation big time.

So please can those who keep saying we’ve improved and Riza was brought in to save us , explain more please?



Just look how bad QPR were and how they are now:

Riza should never have got the job and with a decent manager we wouldn't be where we are now .

It’s simple and really isn’t difficult to see.

I’ve said it multiple times but people are so blinded by the agenda they seem to ignore the truth.

We were BOTTOM of the league.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone. That is an improvement.

We had ZERO wins with Bulut this season.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone, even three wins is an improvement.

This whole ‘3 out of 18’ is really annoying. The 18 games has been specifically picked to fit the agenda.

Why not post the ACTUAL amount of games he’s been in charge for, the wins, the draws, and the losses.

Let’s also look at goals scored between Bulut and Riza.

Let’s look at it as a full picture instead of half a story to fit a certain agenda.

No mention of the unbeaten January anywhere. Shock.

It’s simple and really isn’t difficult to see.

I’ve said it multiple times but people are so blinded by the agenda they seem to ignore the truth.

We were BOTTOM of the league.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone. That is an improvement.

We had ZERO wins with Bulut this season.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone, even three wins is an improvement.

This whole ‘3 out of 18’ is really annoying. The 18 games has been specifically picked to fit the agenda.

Why not post the ACTUAL amount of games he’s been in charge for, the wins, the draws, and the losses.

Let’s also look at goals scored between Bulut and Riza.

Let’s look at it as a full picture instead of half a story to fit a certain agenda.

No mention of the unbeaten January anywhere. Shock.

Are you Serious?

He’s been in charge since September, Only six games had been played.

He’s kept us down there virtually all this time fighting relegation.

Wins are what matter not draws / defeats.

I will say it now, with the way you and Ned talk, you 100% have NO Ambition at all for Our Club.


The Full Picture is We are still deep in a Relegation Battle and That’s a FACT OPEN YOUR EYES

We get it, you don't like the guy, but you're constantly having a go at the wrong person. He's trying his best to get keep us up under difficult circumstances & with a difficult owner. Nobody experienced is coming to save us even if he leaves, Tan isn't offering any contracts past the end of the season so let's just direct the anger where it's really deserved.

And it has nothing to do with ambition, this season is now about staying up.

We get it, you don't like the guy, but you're constantly having a go at the wrong person. He's trying his best to get keep us up under difficult circumstances & with a difficult owner. Nobody experienced is coming to save us even if he leaves, Tan isn't offering any contracts past the end of the season so let's just direct the anger where it's really deserved.

And it has nothing to do with ambition, this season is now about staying up.

Great person, great character and great passion.

His NO experience is costing us and yes he’s a cheap yes man, And 100% he’s told how to play the games by his Master, who I can’t stand.

It’s simple and really isn’t difficult to see.

I’ve said it multiple times but people are so blinded by the agenda they seem to ignore the truth.

We were BOTTOM of the league.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone. That is an improvement.

We had ZERO wins with Bulut this season.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone, even three wins is an improvement.

This whole ‘3 out of 18’ is really annoying. The 18 games has been specifically picked to fit the agenda.

Why not post the ACTUAL amount of games he’s been in charge for, the wins, the draws, and the losses.

Let’s also look at goals scored between Bulut and Riza.

Let’s look at it as a full picture instead of half a story to fit a certain agenda.

No mention of the unbeaten January anywhere. Shock.

Are you Serious?

He’s been in charge since September, Only six games had been played.

He’s kept us down there virtually all this time fighting relegation.

Wins are what matter not draws / defeats.

I will say it now, with the way you and Ned talk, you 100% have NO Ambition at all for Our Club.

I have big ambition for our club, and I’m sure that Ned and every other city fan has also, but the problem is not with us, it’s the board as you full well know.

Tan has his recruitment strategy and that strategy has been here for years with no sign of changing.

I’d love us to go out and get a Cooper or similar. But we aren’t going to.

If it was the case that we brought in someone like Cooper or Bilic, I’d be happy with Riza going.

I’m not however happy with Riza going to be replaced with someone like Purse.

It’s simple and really isn’t difficult to see.

I’ve said it multiple times but people are so blinded by the agenda they seem to ignore the truth.

We were BOTTOM of the league.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone. That is an improvement.

We had ZERO wins with Bulut this season.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone, even three wins is an improvement.

This whole ‘3 out of 18’ is really annoying. The 18 games has been specifically picked to fit the agenda.

Why not post the ACTUAL amount of games he’s been in charge for, the wins, the draws, and the losses.

Let’s also look at goals scored between Bulut and Riza.

Let’s look at it as a full picture instead of half a story to fit a certain agenda.

No mention of the unbeaten January anywhere. Shock.

Are you Serious?

He’s been in charge since September, Only six games had been played.

He’s kept us down there virtually all this time fighting relegation.

Wins are what matter not draws / defeats.

I will say it now, with the way you and Ned talk, you 100% have NO Ambition at all for Our Club.

I have big ambition for our club, and I’m sure that Ned and every other city fan has also, but the problem is not with us, it’s the board as you full well know.

Tan has his recruitment strategy and that strategy has been here for years with no sign of changing.

I’d love us to go out and get a Cooper or similar. But we aren’t going to.

If it was the case that we brought in someone like Cooper or Bilic, I’d be happy with Riza going.

I’m not however happy with Riza going to be replaced with someone like Purse.

I will say it again I would rather Puppet Riza than Purse.

But that is so sad that’s our choice.

But we are allowed to criticise Riza are we not??

To be fair I can't argue with any of that.

The only thing I can say is that our owner has made a net gain.

Alright, we've bought decent players like Robertson and Salech.

But because of sales, he'd made his money back plus more on them before he even signed them.

So Riza has a weaker team than Bulut had.

Tan still sees a Championship club as a way to make money and that's not true. You own an EFL club and you'll lose money. Everyone knows that.

This is down to Tan, not Riza.

If you want to blame Riza for accepting Tan's terms, that's fair enough.

It’s simple and really isn’t difficult to see.

I’ve said it multiple times but people are so blinded by the agenda they seem to ignore the truth.

We were BOTTOM of the league.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone. That is an improvement.

We had ZERO wins with Bulut this season.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone, even three wins is an improvement.

This whole ‘3 out of 18’ is really annoying. The 18 games has been specifically picked to fit the agenda.

Why not post the ACTUAL amount of games he’s been in charge for, the wins, the draws, and the losses.

Let’s also look at goals scored between Bulut and Riza.

Let’s look at it as a full picture instead of half a story to fit a certain agenda.

No mention of the unbeaten January anywhere. Shock.

Are you Serious?

He’s been in charge since September, Only six games had been played.

He’s kept us down there virtually all this time fighting relegation.

Wins are what matter not draws / defeats.

I will say it now, with the way you and Ned talk, you 100% have NO Ambition at all for Our Club.

I have big ambition for our club, and I’m sure that Ned and every other city fan has also, but the problem is not with us, it’s the board as you full well know.

Tan has his recruitment strategy and that strategy has been here for years with no sign of changing.

I’d love us to go out and get a Cooper or similar. But we aren’t going to.

If it was the case that we brought in someone like Cooper or Bilic, I’d be happy with Riza going.

I’m not however happy with Riza going to be replaced with someone like Purse.

I will say it again I would rather Puppet Riza than Purse.

But that is so sad that’s our choice.

But we are allowed to criticise Riza are we not??

Absolutely, I’ve criticised him myself before.

He must take responsibility for his decisions, and he needs to learn from his mistakes.

But a lot of it is down to the board and not Riza

I believe Riza will keep us up and then he can crack on next season as there is definitely signs of an emerging championship manager there.
Fair play criticism of the board but all this yes man and puppet for the manager is getting boring now

One transfer window .
Plus inherited a team which had only 1 point after 6 games and only scored 1 goal .
The hardest thing Riza faced was the players low confidence and mentality . The rot was set by Bulut - there is no getting away from that .
We have improved from buluts time without a doubt .
FA cup run too .
Worst defence . Worst hammering all under tans reign but let’s not forget Tan’s money got us to the premier league twice plus how many times under tans reign have we broke our club record transfer fee ?

Thinks haven’t gone well on the field for a few seasons but who us to blame ??
Personally I think it’s a culmination of previous clueless managers , Bulut being the worst one of all .

We haven’t improved at all worst defence in a long time worse away record I can remember most of the points have been draws from winning positions we try to play from the back which was bulet style and not changed Riza out of his depth to inexperienced most managers start off down the league and work there way up Riza has been involved in youth football for most of his coaching career I watched away at Luton it’s where I starting thinking after that performance he’s out of his depth a win against Swansea at any cost always great but look at Oxford away Portsmouth away hull away it’s shocking we will go down

We haven’t improved at all worst defence in a long time worse away record I can remember most of the points have been draws from winning positions we try to play from the back which was bulet style and not changed Riza out of his depth to inexperienced most managers start off down the league and work there way up Riza has been involved in youth football for most of his coaching career I watched away at Luton it’s where I starting thinking after that performance he’s out of his depth a win against Swansea at any cost always great but look at Oxford away Portsmouth away hull away it’s shocking we will go down

The points tally between Riza and Bulut shows that we have improved.

The goals scored shows we have improved.

Yes leaky defence but even then we are ABOVE the relegation zone.

Annis to be fair to him has said the same concerns since the start with Riza, but others chop and change their opinions even weekly or daily.

I don't feel Riza was the right choice but knowing the way the club has been managed he was my favourite to get the job.

I don't fancy our squad one bit to stay up and that includes the new additions wehave received of late. 2 of them are coming back from injuries and we are being used to get them match fit. The 3rd one the striker is worth buying for when we drop down to League One. I just hope this period of the fight against relegation will not knock his confidence.

Back to the manager. He got the job becuase he was the cheapest option and sadly he is proving to be a yes man. If he does leave us he will leave with our blessing because of the win over the Jacks. However I think he will be here next season regardless.

It’s simple and really isn’t difficult to see.

I’ve said it multiple times but people are so blinded by the agenda they seem to ignore the truth.

We were BOTTOM of the league.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone. That is an improvement.

We had ZERO wins with Bulut this season.

Now we are outside of the relegation zone, even three wins is an improvement.

This whole ‘3 out of 18’ is really annoying. The 18 games has been specifically picked to fit the agenda.

Why not post the ACTUAL amount of games he’s been in charge for, the wins, the draws, and the losses.

Let’s also look at goals scored between Bulut and Riza.

Let’s look at it as a full picture instead of half a story to fit a certain agenda.

No mention of the unbeaten January anywhere. Shock.

Are you Serious?

He’s been in charge since September, Only six games had been played.

He’s kept us down there virtually all this time fighting relegation.

Wins are what matter not draws / defeats.

I will say it now, with the way you and Ned talk, you 100% have NO Ambition at all for Our Club.

I have big ambition for our club, and I’m sure that Ned and every other city fan has also, but the problem is not with us, it’s the board as you full well know.

Tan has his recruitment strategy and that strategy has been here for years with no sign of changing.

I’d love us to go out and get a Cooper or similar. But we aren’t going to.

If it was the case that we brought in someone like Cooper or Bilic, I’d be happy with Riza going.

I’m not however happy with Riza going to be replaced with someone like Purse.

I will say it again I would rather Puppet Riza than Purse.

But that is so sad that’s our choice.

But we are allowed to criticise Riza are we not??

Its difficult to disagree with your points. Do you think we should change manager now?

I'm in the "he wasnt/isnt the right man, but changing now would be potentially damaging" camp.

I think we're catch22 also. If we stay up, Riza will be praised. Same cycle next season. If we go down, Riza will go, another shite manager appointed. Both scenarios are grim.

Regardless of whether you think there's been an improvement or not stats are used to fit whatever people want it to fit ...all can say with bullet it was relegation with riza we've stayed majority of time out bottom 3 so its an improvement of sorts... but what is unexcapable is unless tan changes is strategy on cheap coaches we will be relegated if not this season next one is Almost garaunteed.... not sure why any owner not just tan never look at what other clubs do and see if you pursue a certain strategy you will end up relegated sooner rather than later and i dont mean cheap coaches either player policy selling best players is another reason get relegated eventually.. tactics is another carry on doing same thing is stupid and reckless ... unfortunately riza will be judged on end season stay up its an improvement as lots on here kept saying we were getting relegated months ago...