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O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:08 pm

Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:13 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.


Ned people have got uolook behond present troubles ..... if purin gets away with his land grab invasion no matter what usa try putin will go after the smaller states at his border in a year or two.... its not so much as what Trump says its the consequences of he says.... as for Netanyahu he already as carte blanch to fo what he likes regarding Palestinians so can you imagine displacing them to Jordan and Egypt and hamas and other local radicals start bombing Israel again he won't hesitate to attack them all under the pretence of self defence and fully backed by his boyfriend Trump maybe its time europe tells usa to leave NATO & UN as what Trump proposes makes both organisations impotent with usa barking orders without participating but at least countries won't have hands tied by trump and his big mouth if usa not involved. ...

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:32 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.


Ned people have got uolook behond present troubles ..... if purin gets away with his land grab invasion no matter what usa try putin will go after the smaller states at his border in a year or two.... its not so much as what Trump says its the consequences of he says.... as for Netanyahu he already as carte blanch to fo what he likes regarding Palestinians so can you imagine displacing them to Jordan and Egypt and hamas and other local radicals start bombing Israel again he won't hesitate to attack them all under the pretence of self defence and fully backed by his boyfriend Trump maybe its time europe tells usa to leave NATO & UN as what Trump proposes makes both organisations impotent with usa barking orders without participating but at least countries won't have hands tied by trump and his big mouth if usa not involved. ...


Extremely worrying time Allan, you just don't know what Trump will do next. But we know he'll let Putin and Netanyahu do whatever they want - not good.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:55 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:55 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.


Ned people have got uolook behond present troubles ..... if purin gets away with his land grab invasion no matter what usa try putin will go after the smaller states at his border in a year or two.... its not so much as what Trump says its the consequences of he says.... as for Netanyahu he already as carte blanch to fo what he likes regarding Palestinians so can you imagine displacing them to Jordan and Egypt and hamas and other local radicals start bombing Israel again he won't hesitate to attack them all under the pretence of self defence and fully backed by his boyfriend Trump maybe its time europe tells usa to leave NATO & UN as what Trump proposes makes both organisations impotent with usa barking orders without participating but at least countries won't have hands tied by trump and his big mouth if usa not involved. ...


Extremely worrying time Allan, you just don't know what Trump will do next. But we know he'll let Putin and Netanyahu do whatever they want - not good.



Trump as just caused chaos worldwide by threats and cohesion .. lots he's said won't happen but the damage is already done by then.... only republicans he as bought likes him or want him now .... one local American said would happily shoot him they're not only ones I feel as no Americans I know like him... all I can see is more bullying from him while he's not fit to be president of free world the people he as put in prime positions are so out of their depth you wouldn't let them run a bath or they're pro Russian or Israeli .. can only see problems with worldwide disturbances by radicals ect who know usa wont intervene as Trump basically says no usa troops will support foreign powers..

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:58 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.


Ned people have got uolook behond present troubles ..... if purin gets away with his land grab invasion no matter what usa try putin will go after the smaller states at his border in a year or two.... its not so much as what Trump says its the consequences of he says.... as for Netanyahu he already as carte blanch to fo what he likes regarding Palestinians so can you imagine displacing them to Jordan and Egypt and hamas and other local radicals start bombing Israel again he won't hesitate to attack them all under the pretence of self defence and fully backed by his boyfriend Trump maybe its time europe tells usa to leave NATO & UN as what Trump proposes makes both organisations impotent with usa barking orders without participating but at least countries won't have hands tied by trump and his big mouth if usa not involved. ...


Extremely worrying time Allan, you just don't know what Trump will do next. But we know he'll let Putin and Netanyahu do whatever they want - not good.



Trump as just caused chaos worldwide by threats and cohesion .. lots he's said won't happen but the damage is already done by then.... only republicans he as bought likes him or want him now .... one local American said would happily shoot him they're not only ones I feel as no Americans I know like him... all I can see is more bullying from him while he's not fit to be president of free world the people he as put in prime positions are so out of their depth you wouldn't let them run a bath or they're pro Russian or Israeli .. can only see problems with worldwide disturbances by radicals ect who know usa wont intervene as Trump basically says no usa troops will support foreign powers..

What a load of nonsense last 4 years under biden has been chaos

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 9:10 pm

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.


Ned people have got uolook behond present troubles ..... if purin gets away with his land grab invasion no matter what usa try putin will go after the smaller states at his border in a year or two.... its not so much as what Trump says its the consequences of he says.... as for Netanyahu he already as carte blanch to fo what he likes regarding Palestinians so can you imagine displacing them to Jordan and Egypt and hamas and other local radicals start bombing Israel again he won't hesitate to attack them all under the pretence of self defence and fully backed by his boyfriend Trump maybe its time europe tells usa to leave NATO & UN as what Trump proposes makes both organisations impotent with usa barking orders without participating but at least countries won't have hands tied by trump and his big mouth if usa not involved. ...


Extremely worrying time Allan, you just don't know what Trump will do next. But we know he'll let Putin and Netanyahu do whatever they want - not good.



Trump as just caused chaos worldwide by threats and cohesion .. lots he's said won't happen but the damage is already done by then.... only republicans he as bought likes him or want him now .... one local American said would happily shoot him they're not only ones I feel as no Americans I know like him... all I can see is more bullying from him while he's not fit to be president of free world the people he as put in prime positions are so out of their depth you wouldn't let them run a bath or they're pro Russian or Israeli .. can only see problems with worldwide disturbances by radicals ect who know usa wont intervene as Trump basically says no usa troops will support foreign powers..

What a load of nonsense last 4 years under biden has been chaos



Choes where? Maybe in America but no one outside it noticed but biden didnt cause it around the world .... if you mean gaza thats down to having Jews in prominent positions in govmnts that no one in usa or UK will offend only got to say boo and its antisemitic....

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 9:26 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.


Ned people have got uolook behond present troubles ..... if purin gets away with his land grab invasion no matter what usa try putin will go after the smaller states at his border in a year or two.... its not so much as what Trump says its the consequences of he says.... as for Netanyahu he already as carte blanch to fo what he likes regarding Palestinians so can you imagine displacing them to Jordan and Egypt and hamas and other local radicals start bombing Israel again he won't hesitate to attack them all under the pretence of self defence and fully backed by his boyfriend Trump maybe its time europe tells usa to leave NATO & UN as what Trump proposes makes both organisations impotent with usa barking orders without participating but at least countries won't have hands tied by trump and his big mouth if usa not involved. ...


Extremely worrying time Allan, you just don't know what Trump will do next. But we know he'll let Putin and Netanyahu do whatever they want - not good.



Trump as just caused chaos worldwide by threats and cohesion .. lots he's said won't happen but the damage is already done by then.... only republicans he as bought likes him or want him now .... one local American said would happily shoot him they're not only ones I feel as no Americans I know like him... all I can see is more bullying from him while he's not fit to be president of free world the people he as put in prime positions are so out of their depth you wouldn't let them run a bath or they're pro Russian or Israeli .. can only see problems with worldwide disturbances by radicals ect who know usa wont intervene as Trump basically says no usa troops will support foreign powers..

What a load of nonsense last 4 years under biden has been chaos



Choes where? Maybe in America but no one outside it noticed but biden didnt cause it around the world .... if you mean gaza thats down to having Jews in prominent positions in govmnts that no one in usa or UK will offend only got to say boo and its antisemitic....


So when trumps in charge he causes the problems in Israel. But when it’s Biden it was Israel’s fault. At least try to stay consistent. You been suckered into the bull shit put out by the MSM. show some respect for the choice of the American people he won easily even with all the powers to be trying to stop him. Imagine if it was a fair fight how much he would win by.

You may not like trump and that’s fair enough, I’m assuming your not an American citizen so it’s really none of your business who is their president. Apologies if you are American ignore the above 3 lines. He just putting America first and not a nanny to the world we all getting upset because America keeps us all in order. If we kick out of nato as someone mentioned above all hell will break lose. The world relies on them to much unfortunately.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 9:45 pm

Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.


Ned people have got uolook behond present troubles ..... if purin gets away with his land grab invasion no matter what usa try putin will go after the smaller states at his border in a year or two.... its not so much as what Trump says its the consequences of he says.... as for Netanyahu he already as carte blanch to fo what he likes regarding Palestinians so can you imagine displacing them to Jordan and Egypt and hamas and other local radicals start bombing Israel again he won't hesitate to attack them all under the pretence of self defence and fully backed by his boyfriend Trump maybe its time europe tells usa to leave NATO & UN as what Trump proposes makes both organisations impotent with usa barking orders without participating but at least countries won't have hands tied by trump and his big mouth if usa not involved. ...


Extremely worrying time Allan, you just don't know what Trump will do next. But we know he'll let Putin and Netanyahu do whatever they want - not good.



Trump as just caused chaos worldwide by threats and cohesion .. lots he's said won't happen but the damage is already done by then.... only republicans he as bought likes him or want him now .... one local American said would happily shoot him they're not only ones I feel as no Americans I know like him... all I can see is more bullying from him while he's not fit to be president of free world the people he as put in prime positions are so out of their depth you wouldn't let them run a bath or they're pro Russian or Israeli .. can only see problems with worldwide disturbances by radicals ect who know usa wont intervene as Trump basically says no usa troops will support foreign powers..

What a load of nonsense last 4 years under biden has been chaos



Choes where? Maybe in America but no one outside it noticed but biden didnt cause it around the world .... if you mean gaza thats down to having Jews in prominent positions in govmnts that no one in usa or UK will offend only got to say boo and its antisemitic....


So when trumps in charge he causes the problems in Israel. But when it’s Biden it was Israel’s fault. At least try to stay consistent. You been suckered into the bull shit put out by the MSM. show some respect for the choice of the American people he won easily even with all the powers to be trying to stop him. Imagine if it was a fair fight how much he would win by.

You may not like trump and that’s fair enough, I’m assuming your not an American citizen so it’s really none of your business who is their president. Apologies if you are American ignore the above 3 lines. He just putting America first and not a nanny to the world we all getting upset because America keeps us all in order. If we kick out of nato as someone mentioned above all hell will break lose. The world relies on them to much unfortunately.



No if you read through what I said usa to scared to say anything to Israel so usa and by default that's Biden allowed Netanyahu get away with murder and that as been my opinion throughout this crisis .... no its not my buisness but like you can have opinion on their president ..... again if you read what I've said I said europe should tell usa to leave nato & un if not happy.... trump as told europe it won't intervene if article 5 is implemented which is the part where its one for all and all for one if attacked.... .... yes world does rely on usa and trump is using that to bully and coherse countries to accept his conditions or else?
Ps Americans don't like trump never mind foreigners like me because hes an egotistical narcissist :o

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 9:56 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.


Ned people have got uolook behond present troubles ..... if purin gets away with his land grab invasion no matter what usa try putin will go after the smaller states at his border in a year or two.... its not so much as what Trump says its the consequences of he says.... as for Netanyahu he already as carte blanch to fo what he likes regarding Palestinians so can you imagine displacing them to Jordan and Egypt and hamas and other local radicals start bombing Israel again he won't hesitate to attack them all under the pretence of self defence and fully backed by his boyfriend Trump maybe its time europe tells usa to leave NATO & UN as what Trump proposes makes both organisations impotent with usa barking orders without participating but at least countries won't have hands tied by trump and his big mouth if usa not involved. ...


Extremely worrying time Allan, you just don't know what Trump will do next. But we know he'll let Putin and Netanyahu do whatever they want - not good.



Trump as just caused chaos worldwide by threats and cohesion .. lots he's said won't happen but the damage is already done by then.... only republicans he as bought likes him or want him now .... one local American said would happily shoot him they're not only ones I feel as no Americans I know like him... all I can see is more bullying from him while he's not fit to be president of free world the people he as put in prime positions are so out of their depth you wouldn't let them run a bath or they're pro Russian or Israeli .. can only see problems with worldwide disturbances by radicals ect who know usa wont intervene as Trump basically says no usa troops will support foreign powers..

What a load of nonsense last 4 years under biden has been chaos



Choes where? Maybe in America but no one outside it noticed but biden didnt cause it around the world .... if you mean gaza thats down to having Jews in prominent positions in govmnts that no one in usa or UK will offend only got to say boo and its antisemitic....

Are you blind , the war in Ukraine, gaza these are not in America are they ? , are the Jews in hamas prominent positions in hamas? Comecon the world in the last few years has been in chaos.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 9:57 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.


Ned people have got uolook behond present troubles ..... if purin gets away with his land grab invasion no matter what usa try putin will go after the smaller states at his border in a year or two.... its not so much as what Trump says its the consequences of he says.... as for Netanyahu he already as carte blanch to fo what he likes regarding Palestinians so can you imagine displacing them to Jordan and Egypt and hamas and other local radicals start bombing Israel again he won't hesitate to attack them all under the pretence of self defence and fully backed by his boyfriend Trump maybe its time europe tells usa to leave NATO & UN as what Trump proposes makes both organisations impotent with usa barking orders without participating but at least countries won't have hands tied by trump and his big mouth if usa not involved. ...


Extremely worrying time Allan, you just don't know what Trump will do next. But we know he'll let Putin and Netanyahu do whatever they want - not good.



Trump as just caused chaos worldwide by threats and cohesion .. lots he's said won't happen but the damage is already done by then.... only republicans he as bought likes him or want him now .... one local American said would happily shoot him they're not only ones I feel as no Americans I know like him... all I can see is more bullying from him while he's not fit to be president of free world the people he as put in prime positions are so out of their depth you wouldn't let them run a bath or they're pro Russian or Israeli .. can only see problems with worldwide disturbances by radicals ect who know usa wont intervene as Trump basically says no usa troops will support foreign powers..

What a load of nonsense last 4 years under biden has been chaos



Choes where? Maybe in America but no one outside it noticed but biden didnt cause it around the world .... if you mean gaza thats down to having Jews in prominent positions in govmnts that no one in usa or UK will offend only got to say boo and its antisemitic....


So when trumps in charge he causes the problems in Israel. But when it’s Biden it was Israel’s fault. At least try to stay consistent. You been suckered into the bull shit put out by the MSM. show some respect for the choice of the American people he won easily even with all the powers to be trying to stop him. Imagine if it was a fair fight how much he would win by.

You may not like trump and that’s fair enough, I’m assuming your not an American citizen so it’s really none of your business who is their president. Apologies if you are American ignore the above 3 lines. He just putting America first and not a nanny to the world we all getting upset because America keeps us all in order. If we kick out of nato as someone mentioned above all hell will break lose. The world relies on them to much unfortunately.



No if you read through what I said usa to scared to say anything to Israel so usa and by default that's Biden allowed Netanyahu get away with murder and that as been my opinion throughout this crisis .... no its not my buisness but like you can have opinion on their president ..... again if you read what I've said I said europe should tell usa to leave nato & un if not happy.... trump as told europe it won't intervene if article 5 is implemented which is the part where its one for all and all for one if attacked.... .... yes world does rely on usa and trump is using that to bully and coherse countries to accept his conditions or else?
Ps Americans don't like trump never mind foreigners like me because hes an egotistical narcissist :o


How did he easily win the election then if they don’t like him?
(Genuine question because I’m baffled by that)

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:07 pm

I found it completely bamboozling how people say Trump is hated. He’s got to be one of the most well liked leaders in modern politics, by the vast majority of people I know. I will add that the majority of people I know do not watch much MSM, which probably gives the reason as to why they like him.
The world was desperate for a superpower nation to get involved in the wars that have happened since the Biden administration came into power. Especially after Britain ended up going woke with Labour, which we are all now paying the price for.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:09 pm

wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:12 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:14 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:I found it completely bamboozling how people say Trump is hated. He’s got to be one of the most well liked leaders in modern politics, by the vast majority of people I know. I will add that the majority of people I know do not watch much MSM, which probably gives the reason as to why they like him.
The world was desperate for a superpower nation to get involved in the wars that have happened since the Biden administration came into power. Especially after Britain ended up going woke with Labour, which we are all now paying the price for.


I’m with you there mate. Must of the Americans I liaise with through work are right behind him, mainly that he put Americans first. Not all like him but a good 75% which is healthy as there is opposition to him which is needed.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:14 pm

Putin started war in Ukraine because he thought the West were weak and divided. Rolling tanks into a foreign capital is what they've historically done. No ones ever fought back before. Starmer has thrown a spanner into Trumps plans by declaring that Ukraine's membership of NATO is inevitable. Trump will not get a deal as he likes but much of what he says is just an opening gambit. He's no politician but likes to deal so watch this space. Reform voters should be glad Trump is in because it shows what can be done at the next election.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:19 pm

Rhodes98 wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:I found it completely bamboozling how people say Trump is hated. He’s got to be one of the most well liked leaders in modern politics, by the vast majority of people I know. I will add that the majority of people I know do not watch much MSM, which probably gives the reason as to why they like him.
The world was desperate for a superpower nation to get involved in the wars that have happened since the Biden administration came into power. Especially after Britain ended up going woke with Labour, which we are all now paying the price for.


I’m with you there mate. Must of the Americans I liaise with through work are right behind him, mainly that he put Americans first. Not all like him but a good 75% which is healthy as there is opposition to him which is needed.


No fan of him myself but the evidence backs that up. Latest data has him on a 51% approval rating, which is very high for a US President.

I'm not fan of him but in fairness my opinion is irrelevant, the Americans clearly approve it.

But it won't last. These tariffs are an FDR repeat, that didn't end well.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:19 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.

Your a total muppet and completely misinterpreted what I've wrote , you think that trump trying to end wars and end people dying is wrong you fooking moron ! .maybe tlyou should send you own family to the front line ? , the fact is these wars needc to stop ! .its says a lot about you tbh , you talk about sovereignty whilst you love the eu ?

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:21 pm

Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

You are totally right , these wars need to stop .

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:21 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

You are totally right , these wars need to stop .


At any cost, according to you.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:22 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:I found it completely bamboozling how people say Trump is hated. He’s got to be one of the most well liked leaders in modern politics, by the vast majority of people I know. I will add that the majority of people I know do not watch much MSM, which probably gives the reason as to why they like him.
The world was desperate for a superpower nation to get involved in the wars that have happened since the Biden administration came into power. Especially after Britain ended up going woke with Labour, which we are all now paying the price for.

Agree

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:22 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

You are totally right , these wars need to stop .


At any cost, according to you.

There's been a dreadfully cost already ! .

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:29 pm

wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

You are totally right , these wars need to stop .


At any cost, according to you.

There's been a dreadfully cost already ! .


Well we can agree on that.

I don't agree with his view of the world but if Trump can end the suffering then he'll go down in history.

Don't see it happening but I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong.

Can put up with a leader I don't agree with if he actually delivers peace.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:34 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

You are totally right , these wars need to stop .


At any cost, according to you.

There's been a dreadfully cost already ! .


Well we can agree on that.

I don't agree with his view of the world but if Trump can end the suffering then he'll go down in history.

Don't see it happening but I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong.

Can put up with a leader I don't agree with if he actually delivers peace.

Trump has a better chance than anyone , he will actually get people together to do a deal .

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:53 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

You are totally right , these wars need to stop .


At any cost, according to you.



So he stops the wars in Ukraine and gaza? Well if people look at his solutions for war ending he as appeased putin who invaded a sovereign state by saying he can keep the land he's taken ..... so what's stopping putin invading Moldova ect next after he’s replenished his arsenal? Peace plan for Palestine is to remove its people from gaza and put them into other countries otherwise stop aid to those countries? And allow Israeli settlers take over the land and if anyone forgotten it was trump who gave his blessing last time in office for Israel to take land against international law and refuses to recognise anyone who says or does anything to Netanyahu... . So it's Peace no matter what it cost people but at no cost to putin or Netanyahu both invaders of another country and breakers of international law......and what he's done in usa as repercussions all over the world think people should read more about the consequences of what Trump is doing to see the risk to regions everywhere .... yes he as a point about usa first but there are better ways to do it than mouthing off causing unessasary
Panic to govmnts and appeasing criminals like putin and Netanyahu?

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:00 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

You are totally right , these wars need to stop .


At any cost, according to you.



So he stops the wars in Ukraine and gaza? Well if people look at his solutions for war ending he as appeased putin who invaded a sovereign state by saying he can keep the land he's taken ..... so what's stopping putin invading Moldova ect next after he’s replenished his arsenal? Peace plan for Palestine is to remove its people from gaza and put them into other countries otherwise stop aid to those countries? And allow Israeli settlers take over the land and if anyone forgotten it was trump who gave his blessing last time in office for Israel to take land against international law and refuses to recognise anyone who says or does anything to Netanyahu... . So it's Peace no matter what it cost people but at no cost to putin or Netanyahu both invaders of another country and breakers of international law......and what he's done in usa as repercussions all over the world think people should read more about the consequences of what Trump is doing to see the risk to regions everywhere .... yes he as a point about usa first but there are better ways to do it than mouthing off causing unessasary
Panic to govmnts and appeasing criminals like putin and Netanyahu?

Ukrainians history is a lot more complicated than putin just wants it , the coup changed everything, Ukraine were killing Russians in the eastern areas , add the fact that the west installed a pro western government in Ukraine that wanted to join nato breaking agreements made previously . There's a number of factors but let's face it nato expansion is a big one. That war need to end , Ukraine can not win it andcmillikbsxof people on both sides have died already.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:14 am

Yes the world has changed.
Trump is just about power and American power.
It will force those who oppose him and Israel into ore extreme acts and eventually they will take their responses to America itself .
Whilst it’s on foreign lands, Americans don’t care but when it’s on their doorstep, it will matter.
My brother lives in America and is married to an American and the country has never been so divided .

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:43 am

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

You are totally right , these wars need to stop .


At any cost, according to you.



So he stops the wars in Ukraine and gaza? Well if people look at his solutions for war ending he as appeased putin who invaded a sovereign state by saying he can keep the land he's taken ..... so what's stopping putin invading Moldova ect next after he’s replenished his arsenal? Peace plan for Palestine is to remove its people from gaza and put them into other countries otherwise stop aid to those countries? And allow Israeli settlers take over the land and if anyone forgotten it was trump who gave his blessing last time in office for Israel to take land against international law and refuses to recognise anyone who says or does anything to Netanyahu... . So it's Peace no matter what it cost people but at no cost to putin or Netanyahu both invaders of another country and breakers of international law......and what he's done in usa as repercussions all over the world think people should read more about the consequences of what Trump is doing to see the risk to regions everywhere .... yes he as a point about usa first but there are better ways to do it than mouthing off causing unessasary
Panic to govmnts and appeasing criminals like putin and Netanyahu?

Ukrainians history is a lot more complicated than putin just wants it , the coup changed everything, Ukraine were killing Russians in the eastern areas , add the fact that the west installed a pro western government in Ukraine that wanted to join nato breaking agreements made previously . There's a number of factors but let's face it nato expansion is a big one. That war need to end , Ukraine can not win it andcmillikbsxof people on both sides have died already.



Wez your right things are complicated than what you hear on news Israel situation been going since 1948 when the country was invented! Palestinians was in region long time before them.... and israel/Jews haven't stopped taking over areas of land if they can get away with it ever since..... latest place is in Indonesia they're setting up communities replacing locals and local businesses as can imagine locals not happy... anyway I digress trump will "trumpet" his ability to bring peace today with his threats to Ukraine Jordan/Egypt....but what about tomorrow? All three countries will be vulnerable to problems caused by trumps capitulation to putin and Netanyahu..... there will be no usa to sort it out as its a case of I'm alright jack its not my problem attitude trump as adopted towards the world...... as they say theres good friends and bad ones the latter best describes trump perfectly.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Feb 15, 2025 12:30 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out


Wow. You think innocent people in Gaza and Ukraine dying, nations not having their own sovereignty is "for the better".

That says a lot about you then.


I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant at all. There’s other things happening in the world not just Israel and the Ukraine.

You are totally right , these wars need to stop .


At any cost, according to you.



So he stops the wars in Ukraine and gaza? Well if people look at his solutions for war ending he as appeased putin who invaded a sovereign state by saying he can keep the land he's taken ..... so what's stopping putin invading Moldova ect next after he’s replenished his arsenal? Peace plan for Palestine is to remove its people from gaza and put them into other countries otherwise stop aid to those countries? And allow Israeli settlers take over the land and if anyone forgotten it was trump who gave his blessing last time in office for Israel to take land against international law and refuses to recognise anyone who says or does anything to Netanyahu... . So it's Peace no matter what it cost people but at no cost to putin or Netanyahu both invaders of another country and breakers of international law......and what he's done in usa as repercussions all over the world think people should read more about the consequences of what Trump is doing to see the risk to regions everywhere .... yes he as a point about usa first but there are better ways to do it than mouthing off causing unessasary
Panic to govmnts and appeasing criminals like putin and Netanyahu?

Ukrainians history is a lot more complicated than putin just wants it , the coup changed everything, Ukraine were killing Russians in the eastern areas , add the fact that the west installed a pro western government in Ukraine that wanted to join nato breaking agreements made previously . There's a number of factors but let's face it nato expansion is a big one. That war need to end , Ukraine can not win it andcmillikbsxof people on both sides have died already.



Wez your right things are complicated than what you hear on news Israel situation been going since 1948 when the country was invented! Palestinians was in region long time before them.... and israel/Jews haven't stopped taking over areas of land if they can get away with it ever since..... latest place is in Indonesia they're setting up communities replacing locals and local businesses as can imagine locals not happy... anyway I digress trump will "trumpet" his ability to bring peace today with his threats to Ukraine Jordan/Egypt....but what about tomorrow? All three countries will be vulnerable to problems caused by trumps capitulation to putin and Netanyahu..... there will be no usa to sort it out as its a case of I'm alright jack its not my problem attitude trump as adopted towards the world...... as they say theres good friends and bad ones the latter best describes trump perfectly.


I think if there was a leader with trumps ideology and belief from voters he would be a strong leader like trump and not worry about upsetting the establishment, that candidate and his party would romp it home here.

People up and down the country what our government to look after ourselves and not get involved in others disputes. Why do we give so much money away? It’s why Brexit was voted for just unfortunately not well executed.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Feb 15, 2025 2:48 pm

wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Everyone has seen what Trump has done since taking power.

Is this the start of the world changing? Will the likes of Israel and Russia have the power to do what the hell they like?

We know Trump is anti-war, but at what cost?

Netanyahu will destroy more than just Gaza if he's allowed to and Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

Today, more than ever, I fear for Gaza and Ukraine.

Changing for the better hopefully, Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the world , the 2014 coup and the Obama and biden interference caused the war .hopefully trump can sort this mess out

Most people have no idea about the CIA backed coup, just as most people have no idea about the “not an inch further east” promise from NATO, in 1989 when the Berlin Wall came down and the USSR imploded. NATO then played Grandmas footsteps right up to the Russian border. Putin is a sociopath who dreams of re establishing the old Russian Empire but the West gave him the excuse to invade Ukraine. BTW the guy who’s pushing NATO expansion is heavily invested in the US Military Industrial Complex, as are many Yank Politicians.