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WE HAVE TO SORT THIS OUT FAST.

Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:29 pm

I believe we have got a TRANSFER EMBARGO ON OUR CLUB until the Next Court Case in Jan 2010 with the INLAND REVENUE, We cannot buy or sell, or loan players in until this is paid.
I get fed up of being the one with the bad news.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:31 pm

Whattttttttttttttttttttt?

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:31 pm

f*cking hell Annis the quicker we get the Malaysians on board the better

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:32 pm

Well if all goes to plan ( With Ton Tan - you dont have to go brown to be rich :lol: ) we have nothing to be concerned with surley, Shirley ?

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:34 pm

what date in january is the courtcase the transfer window could be almost over by the time things are sorted, f*cking nightmare. :evil:

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:37 pm

[quote="Forever Blue"I believe We have got a TRANSFER EMBARGO ON OUR CLUB until the Next Court Case in Jan 2010 with the INLAND REVENUE, We cannot buy or sell, or loan players in until this is paid.
I get fed up of being the one with the bad news.[/quote]


im assuming by Jones article on Sky about how he wants to speak to Ridsdale about players in January he obviously doesnt know this little fact either.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:38 pm

The Football League are monitoring us very closely.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:40 pm

as long a the club keep to the payment plan this shouldnt effect us ,we cant sign anyone at moment anyway till jan but didnt pr say that we didnt have one when he spoke at the meeting?

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:42 pm

If we don't sign anybody in Jan forget promotion!!!., surely the Malaysians will be made aware of this to get this deal done & dusted.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:43 pm

The 'investment' will be used to pay the bill off pronto right? Or am I missing something?

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:49 pm

Alex wrote:The 'investment' will be used to pay the bill off pronto right? Or am I missing something?


Correct, leaving no money for new players in Jan.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:49 pm

Jesus one thing after another... surely they will sort it out somehow come on tan flash the cash

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Alex wrote:The 'investment' will be used to pay the bill off pronto right? Or am I missing something?


Correct, leaving no money for new players in Jan.


And the exact figure of the bill is?

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:59 pm

for f**k say ridsdale sort all this mess out.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:02 pm

So why are the Football League watching us so closely if as PR says they have an agreement with the HMRC and everything is amicable and sorted, he made it all sound like an oversight rather than a major concern.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:02 pm

£1m is the amount owed, isn't it?

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:03 pm

Ross Young wrote:£1m is the amount owed, isn't it?


yep thats what i heard.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:12 pm

I did say a couple of weeks ago that would be a probability if you recall and now its apparant why you had no loan signings arrive when clearly you needed them. Something is clearly not adding up at present either regards your takeover. I do hope Ridsdale has not been gulliable and been sold a pup by the Malay interest. A club in crisis and a potential purchaser, would be like fresh meat within a circle of sharks. Ridsdale does have a habit of " believing his own dreams" although Malay Businessmen can be very cute too and blow hot and cold quickly.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:13 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I believe We have got a TRANSFER EMBARGO ON OUR CLUB until the Next Court Case in Jan 2010 with the INLAND REVENUE, We cannot buy or sell, or loan players in until this is paid.
I get fed up of being the one with the bad news.




We cant buy sell or loan players until Jan anyway.

So the position is still the same, the debt needs paying off.

Mind you, its a bit naughty of Ridsdale to deny this.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:14 pm

Forever Blue wrote: I believe We have got a TRANSFER EMBARGO ON OUR CLUB until the Next Court Case in Jan 2010 with the INLAND REVENUE, We cannot buy or sell, or loan players in until this is paid.
I get fed up of being the one with the bad news.


Annis, what is the source of this information? Cheers! Actually, not cheers, but you know what I mean!

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:17 pm

I did say a couple of weeks ago that would be a probability if you recall and now its apparant why you had no loan signings arrive when clearly you needed them.
We could have signed players then mate, no transfer embargo is in place yet or we would have been unable to offload two players out on loan....

Something is clearly not adding up at present either regards your takeover. I do hope Ridsdale has not been gulliable and been sold a pup by the Malay interest. A club in crisis and a potential purchaser, would be like fresh meat within a circle of sharks. Ridsdale does have a habit of " believing his own dreams" although Malay Businessmen can be very cute too and blow hot and cold quickly.


Where did this come from? Steve Davies has been saying this for weeks but Ridsdale keeps denying it.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:25 pm

With average gates of 20,630, and third in the league, now is the best time for any potential buyers to invest."

I am confident - unless Feb passes with nothing - then I would worry

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:28 pm

I cant tell you who saw the paper work today, but to confirm it, if you ring the football league, they will tell you when a winding up order is put on you, you cant trade in the transfer market till it is sorted out.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:29 pm

Joff wrote:With average gates of 20,630, and third in the league, now is the best time for any potential buyers to invest."

I am confident - unless Feb passes with nothing - then I would worry


Exactly. If there were a transfer embargo, I wouldn't be too worried at this point. If the FA are saying hold on you can't pay your HMRC bill and are about to find out how much it is early Jan, then we'll stop you from buying players until you can satisfy us that you have enough money to pay wages, rather than let you buy who you want and later have it turn out you're going bust.

TG is already on board, Hammam has just been sown up, it takes due dilligence to move any further, and it seems to be primed to be moving on immediately. I find it very hard to believe and worry myself that we won't have enough money to make movements in the January, even if we're talking worst case sceanario, we'd just sick to the formula and bank one of our best players in probably Matthews to tide us over for another year.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:33 pm

The league can impose a transfer embargo if complaint recieved from player or PFA if they have not recieved wages or bonus and can be in place until paid, sources are saying that bonus has not been paid for 3 months to some of the Cardiff players?

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:35 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I cant tell you who saw the paper work today, but to confirm it, if you ring the football league, they will tell you when a winding up order is put on you, you cant trade in the transfer market till it is sorted out.


But Annis I wouldn't worry about it too much. If HMRC hasn't been paid and the club is short up for cash, then it's hardly anything we haven't known for weeks or even years. This is the time of the season that they always have bills, in particular an HMRC red bill to pay. They sold Gunter to pay the HMRC 2 years ago. This time Ridsdale has 2 choices on paying it, sell Adam Matthews or get the Mayalsians to start what they always had on the cards....which has been waiting for Hammam to put pen to paper.

City always always need money at Christmas time, that's just the way and resources we have had to learn to live with right now. We pay the bills the only way a club like us in recent years could with such a small turnover figure - sell players. Now quite right of the FA to put an embargo on us to prevent the risk of us going into January, buying players, having an HMRC bill to pay, and then have no money come in. That's not a bad thing at all. It's a good thing. It's not like there is any other option Ridsdale can do to change it, so there is no point in worrying about it. - Especially as it looks pretty confident that the Mayalsians are ready to start delivering on their word.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:38 pm

gabbsthenewt wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I cant tell you who saw the paper work today, but to confirm it, if you ring the football league, they will tell you when a winding up order is put on you, you cant trade in the transfer market till it is sorted out.


But Annis I wouldn't worry about it too much. If HMRC hasn't been paid and the club is short up for cash, then it's hardly anything we haven't known for weeks or even years. This is the time of the season that they always have bills, in particular an HMRC red bill to pay. They sold Gunter to pay the HMRC 2 years ago. This time Ridsdale has 2 choices on paying it, sell Adam Matthews or get the Mayalsians to start what they always had on the cards....which has been waiting for Hammam to put pen to paper.

City always always need money at Christmas time, that's just the way and resources we have had to learn to live with right now. We pay the bills the only way a club like us in recent years could with such a small turnover figure - sell players. Now quite right of the FA to put an embargo on us to prevent the risk of us going into January, buying players, having an HMRC bill to pay, and then have no money come in. That's not a bad thing at all. It's a good thing. It's not like there is any other option Ridsdale can do to change it, so there is no point in worrying about it. - Especially as it looks pretty confident that the Mayalsians are ready to start delivering on their word.






Cheers Gabbs, I am not to worried PR will sort it out, he will be by flying concord to Malaysia lol.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:41 pm

" Especially as it looks pretty confident that the Mayalsians are ready to start delivering on their word."

That could be the underlying issue though, I hope not for you but I have my doubts.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:48 pm

TNT wrote:" Especially as it looks pretty confident that the Mayalsians are ready to start delivering on their word."

That could be the underlying issue though, I hope not for you but I have my doubts.


Good for you, I have very few.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:52 pm

TNT wrote:" Especially as it looks pretty confident that the Mayalsians are ready to start delivering on their word."

That could be the underlying issue though, I hope not for you but I have my doubts.



Why the change of perspective TNT? You were very pleased for us Friday - its only one working day ago?