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Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 6:56 pm

What is it about our history that has created a huge split in our support and created such vitriolic and pointless messages between the boards and individuals posting on them. Isn't it possible to say 'I think you are wrong and here's why' rather than accuse people of being arse lickers and pansies or any other insult that springs to mind?

Our Club is not that big that we can afford to split our fans into squabbling factions and we need to start disagreeing where necessary like grown ups and not spiteful kids. I've seen 'Sniping' as it's called on both boards and it needs to be curbed by Annis on one hand and Mike on the other. If this goes on there will eventually be more conflict and trouble amongst our supporters at matches than support for our team. Is that what everyone wants?

EVERY poster should be respected no matter how well or badly his post is written and a sensible reply given to his comments. I'm not saying that controversial subjects can't be discussed, but only that we should debate these things like friends. I don't believe that we will ever be anything but a little club while we indulge in such sterile and insulting behaviour.

What will our new investors think of us if they read this stuff? This old club has had a belly full of trouble and disappointments. Do we really want to create more while we might be on the threshold of great things?

:old:
CAL

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:04 pm

caliburn wrote:What is it about our history that has created a huge split in our support and created such vitriolic and pointless messages between the boards and individuals posting on them. Isn't it possible to say 'I think you are wrong and here's why' rather than accuse people of being arse lickers and pansies or any other insult that springs to mind?

Our Club is not that big that we can afford to split our fans into squabbling factions and we need to start disagreeing where necessary like grown ups and not spiteful kids. I've seen 'Sniping' as it's called on both boards and it needs to be curbed by Annis on one hand and Mike on the other. If this goes on there will eventually be more conflict and trouble amongst our supporters at matches than support for our team. Is that what everyone wants?

EVERY poster should be respected no matter how well or badly his post is written and a sensible reply given to his comments. I'm not saying that controversial subjects can't be discussed, but only that we should debate these things like friends. I don't believe that we will ever be anything but a little club while we indulge in such sterile and insulting behaviour.

What will our new investors think of us if they read this stuff? This old club has had a belly full of trouble and disappointments. Do we really want to create more while we might be on the threshold of great things?

:old:
CAL


I think in principle nearly every poster on both boards would agree with you Cal. The trouble is what is posted can often be misinterpreted and clearly people can become upset very quickly.

My suggestion is if you take exception to something which is written then question it via PM. Several times I have had disputes with posters (on here with SaladtheDragon & BigBlueBird) but we have quickly soughted any misunderstandings out via PM rather stick it on the MB for others to get involved with.

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:10 pm

Cal, I agree and for the last 2 months its been Superb until one person rears his ugly head and snipes non stop about the posters etc on here. we should ignore him and will from NOW ON :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:15 pm

Cal, If I am ever in the wrong or get it wrong I am man enough to admit it, a pity about some others.

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:29 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Cal, If I am ever in the wrong or get it wrong I am man enough to admit it, a pity about some others.

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Evening Annis,
In order to avoid accusations of bias I posted something similar on the other board and so far have received a couple of encouraging replies. Thanks for yours. There's hope around yet.

:old:
CAL :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:32 pm

caliburn wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Cal, If I am ever in the wrong or get it wrong I am man enough to admit it, a pity about some others.

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Evening Annis,
In order to avoid accusations of bias I posted something similar on the other board and so far have received a couple of encouraging replies. Thanks for yours. There's hope around yet.

:old:
CAL :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:




cal

six months from now all these squabbles will be forgotten and the threads will all be about the horrendous prices of the prawn sandwiches at old trafford.

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:38 pm

and the f*cking ticket prices at chelski arsenal and the like :lol:

we are going up :ayatollah: :ayatollah: and we shall all become 1 :D

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:41 pm

steve davies wrote:
caliburn wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Cal, If I am ever in the wrong or get it wrong I am man enough to admit it, a pity about some others.

---------------------------------------
Evening Annis,
In order to avoid accusations of bias I posted something similar on the other board and so far have received a couple of encouraging replies. Thanks for yours. There's hope around yet.

:old:
CAL :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:




cal

six months from now all these squabbles will be forgotten and the threads will all be about the horrendous prices of the prawn sandwiches at old trafford.

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You must be joking!! I hate prawn sandwiches even more than I hate old Trafford and the louts who hang around there. OOps! I stopped being respectful there! It's all your fault!

:old:
CAL :lol:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:45 pm

Good post Cal :thumbup:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:45 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Cal, I agree and for the last 2 months its been Superb until one person rears his ugly head and snipes non stop about the posters etc on here. we should ignore him and will from NOW ON :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

i was disappointed to log on this evening, on the day our club was seemingly saved, to find a competition to see who's got the biggest cock raging between both MB's.

the last thing i want is for us all to agree but jesus we can at least be civil and not petty about things.

i even bought a thai curry for my tea because it's the nearest thing to malaysia i could find.

--
m4m

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:54 pm

m4morris wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Cal, I agree and for the last 2 months its been Superb until one person rears his ugly head and snipes non stop about the posters etc on here. we should ignore him and will from NOW ON :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

i was disappointed to log on this evening, on the day our club was seemingly saved, to find a competition to see who's got the biggest cock raging between both MB's.

the last thing i want is for us all to agree but jesus we can at least be civil and not petty about things.

i even bought a thai curry for my tea because it's the nearest thing to malaysia i could find.

--
m4m


It helps when posters talk about the important things like is there such a thing as a Malaysian curry? :lol:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:57 pm

yes our local does a malaysian curry, i will try it and let you all know :D but i am on a diet ooops ;)

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:59 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:yes our local does a malaysian curry, i will try it and let you all know :D but i am on a diet ooops ;)


At the risk of looking totally dull what is Malaysian Curry called Baz?

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 8:05 pm

well its

malaysian satay


malaysian hot and sour sauce


malaysian coconut sauce

and malaysian sambai style sauce all come with beef,chicken,pork,king prawn or duck

all available from china delight in porth

01443 684075 :D and they deliver

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 8:10 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:well its

malaysian satay


malaysian hot and sour sauce


malaysian coconut sauce

and malaysian sambai style sauce all come with beef,chicken,pork,king prawn or duck

all available from china delight in porth

01443 684075 :D and they deliver

that all sounds delicious.

thai red curry was best tesco's in talbot green could offer.

--
m4m

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 8:11 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:well its

malaysian satay


malaysian hot and sour sauce


malaysian coconut sauce

and malaysian sambai style sauce all come with beef,chicken,pork,king prawn or duck

all available from china delight in porth

01443 684075 :D and they deliver


OK Baz you have talked me out of my diet :occasion7:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 8:12 pm

mike i think it LIDL's do a cracking thai green loads of meat and hot :oops:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 8:34 pm

And meanwhile, exactly five minutes after Caliburn posts "all this pointless and damaging hate must end" TLG decides to post this over on Mikes board, and away we go again. Couldn't make it up (I just loves the City I does) :lol:

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.ph ... ffbc72bccc

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 9:18 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
caliburn wrote:What is it about our history that has created a huge split in our support and created such vitriolic and pointless messages between the boards and individuals posting on them. Isn't it possible to say 'I think you are wrong and here's why' rather than accuse people of being arse lickers and pansies or any other insult that springs to mind?

Our Club is not that big that we can afford to split our fans into squabbling factions and we need to start disagreeing where necessary like grown ups and not spiteful kids. I've seen 'Sniping' as it's called on both boards and it needs to be curbed by Annis on one hand and Mike on the other. If this goes on there will eventually be more conflict and trouble amongst our supporters at matches than support for our team. Is that what everyone wants?

EVERY poster should be respected no matter how well or badly his post is written and a sensible reply given to his comments. I'm not saying that controversial subjects can't be discussed, but only that we should debate these things like friends. I don't believe that we will ever be anything but a little club while we indulge in such sterile and insulting behaviour.

What will our new investors think of us if they read this stuff? This old club has had a belly full of trouble and disappointments. Do we really want to create more while we might be on the threshold of great things?

:old:
CAL


I think in principle nearly every poster on both boards would agree with you Cal. The trouble is what is posted can often be misinterpreted and clearly people can become upset very quickly.

My suggestion is if you take exception to something which is written then question it via PM. Several times I have had disputes with posters (on here with SaladtheDragon & BigBlueBird) but we have quickly soughted any misunderstandings out via PM rather stick it on the MB for others to get involved with.


Tony, you made your false allegation in public, so I think TLG is totally right in refuting it in public. I believe you should be man enough to apologise to TLG for what you posted .

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 9:25 pm

and its over to MM and AA to sort out their camps and ban acertain individual who keep making the two MB's a f*cking joke


what tony has pointed out is a true fact, lets just all move on together ffs


rant over

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 9:35 pm

caliburn wrote:What is it about our history that has created a huge split in our support and created such vitriolic and pointless messages between the boards and individuals posting on them. Isn't it possible to say 'I think you are wrong and here's why' rather than accuse people of being arse lickers and pansies or any other insult that springs to mind?

Our Club is not that big that we can afford to split our fans into squabbling factions and we need to start disagreeing where necessary like grown ups and not spiteful kids. I've seen 'Sniping' as it's called on both boards and it needs to be curbed by Annis on one hand and Mike on the other. If this goes on there will eventually be more conflict and trouble amongst our supporters at matches than support for our team. Is that what everyone wants?

EVERY poster should be respected no matter how well or badly his post is written and a sensible reply given to his comments. I'm not saying that controversial subjects can't be discussed, but only that we should debate these things like friends. I don't believe that we will ever be anything but a little club while we indulge in such sterile and insulting behaviour.

What will our new investors think of us if they read this stuff? This old club has had a belly full of trouble and disappointments. Do we really want to create more while we might be on the threshold of great things?

:old:
CAL


How arrogant is this?

As if the Malaysians are going to fine tune into Message boards and be shocked and dismayed at supporters
arguing and getting overheated? Its LIFE.

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 9:42 pm

steve davies wrote:
caliburn wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Cal, If I am ever in the wrong or get it wrong I am man enough to admit it, a pity about some others.

---------------------------------------
Evening Annis,
In order to avoid accusations of bias I posted something similar on the other board and so far have received a couple of encouraging replies. Thanks for yours. There's hope around yet.

:old:
CAL :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:




cal

six months from now all these squabbles will be forgotten and the threads will all be about the horrendous prices of the prawn sandwiches at old trafford.

:lol: :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 9:44 pm

Hiya mate! Alright? wrote:And meanwhile, exactly five minutes after Caliburn posts "all this pointless and damaging hate must end" TLG decides to post this over on Mikes board, and away we go again. Couldn't make it up (I just loves the City I does) :lol:

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.ph ... ffbc72bccc


He will never stop, No wonder he lives on his own and with Snakes. :lol:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 9:45 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Hiya mate! Alright? wrote:And meanwhile, exactly five minutes after Caliburn posts "all this pointless and damaging hate must end" TLG decides to post this over on Mikes board, and away we go again. Couldn't make it up (I just loves the City I does) :lol:

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.ph ... ffbc72bccc


He will never stop, No wonder he lives on his own and with Snakes. :lol:
spiders innit :o

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 9:52 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Hiya mate! Alright? wrote:And meanwhile, exactly five minutes after Caliburn posts "all this pointless and damaging hate must end" TLG decides to post this over on Mikes board, and away we go again. Couldn't make it up (I just loves the City I does) :lol:

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.ph ... ffbc72bccc


He will never stop, No wonder he lives on his own and with Snakes. :lol:
spiders innit :o

:oops:
oh yes, I forgot I called him a Snake by email today :lol: as he slated Carl and Steve Davies in his email to me.

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 9:55 pm

calm down :lol: :lol: i got 2 f*cking tearaways here tonight 1 is13 months and another 20 months i an worn out, and why do kids fight all the time :?


bampy this bampy that jeeesus both are in bed with mrs b i am in the spare bed :D

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 9:59 pm

bluebirdbaz wrote:calm down :lol: :lol: i got 2 f*cking tearaways here tonight 1 is13 months and another 20 months i an worn out, and why do kids fight all the time :?


bampy this bampy that jeeesus both are in bed with mrs b i am in the spare bed :D

:lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 10:02 pm

Cal and Baz,


HE JUST WONT GIVE UP and IS STILL SNIPING and TALKING BOLLOXS, HE MIGHT NOT KNOW WHATS GOING ON BUT WE DO ON THIS FORUM :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

email off him today

Much of what appears on your message board (and on Mike's) turns out to be bollocks, and you know that as well as I do.

It's just the way these things work. People like to think they know more than they do.

I'll be honest, I stopped reading your board after Carl was telling everyone that Ridsdale would be sent packing by the Malaysians and his desk waould be cleared before the Watford game.

That was cobblers, wasn't it?

Carl seems like a decent guy and he gets some things right, but if you trace back his messages over the months he also gets plenty wrong. Just like everyone else who believes they are in the know.

It's the way message boards work, but some of the people on yours do seem to go over the top with so-called inside information which turns out be false.

Steve Davies is a good example of that. He seems a good bloke and I know he's friendly with Borley, but some of the things he's said (mainly on your board) have been totally incorrect - and I know that because I've seen documents which directly contradict things he's said.

Anyway, at the end of the day message boards aren't really that important. It's sad that some people think they are.

Cheers,

Dave

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 10:04 pm

documents????? mmmmmmmmmmmmm weird that :D

Re: Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Sat May 01, 2010 10:17 pm

sounds like the words of a sad and lonely man..............bless.