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Fri May 28, 2010 10:29 am
Its just been announced under The Labour Govt last year alone 417,000 New immigrants were given British Citizenship and over 220,000 given British Passport(Free) at Our Expense, This is in just one year never mind those that stay here unofficial. I AM SORRY BUT ITS GOT TO STOP NOW and CLOSE THE BORDERS. MY OPINION.
Fri May 28, 2010 10:34 am
COULDNT AGREE MORE ANNIS, IT HAS TO STOP ,OR WE WILL BE IN ALL SORTS OF TROUBLE!!
Fri May 28, 2010 10:34 am
Follow Australia's lead. Unless you have a skill or something to offer then you aren't allowed in. I know it's harsh on those who are seeking asylum after being convicted against in their own country but we need to save ourselves before we save the world. I am against a total ban on immigration because immigration has always shaped our lives. Annis you have ancestors from abroad, as do I, as do most of our members and compatriots.
However, we need to get our house in order. Saying that, we also need to address the issue of all those lay abouts who do f**k all except take our tax money.
Fri May 28, 2010 10:34 am
you can't your deemed racist
Fri May 28, 2010 10:45 am
Zabier wrote:Follow Australia's lead. Unless you have a skill or something to offer then you aren't allowed in. I know it's harsh on those who are seeking asylum after being convicted against in their own country but we need to save ourselves before we save the world. I am against a total ban on immigration because immigration has always shaped our lives. Annis you have ancestors from abroad, as do I, as do most of our members and compatriots.
However, we need to get our house in order. Saying that, we also need to address the issue of all those lay abouts who do f**k all except take our tax money.
Yes Zabier and Very Proud I am off My Egyptian Heritage
, But in them days when you came to Britain if you never came to work and I mean Work you would just be left to Die, Now its a FREE FOR ALL and Our Country cant Cope.
Fri May 28, 2010 10:46 am
undybluebird wrote:COULDNT AGREE MORE ANNIS, IT HAS TO STOP ,OR WE WILL BE IN ALL SORTS OF TROUBLE!!
Schools/Hospitals/Housing/Crime, Britain just hasnt got the resources any more.
Fri May 28, 2010 10:47 am
Ben wrote:you can't your deemed racist
Def Not Ben, Freedom of Speech/Opinion and A TRUE OPINION.
Fri May 28, 2010 10:53 am
where did you get those stats Annis?
Fri May 28, 2010 10:59 am
Boyo is A Bluebird wrote:where did you get those stats Annis?
In The Sun Today when I was having my breakfast, Dont laugh but then I did a search to confirm it.
Fri May 28, 2010 11:36 am
you cant " close the borders " , we are part of the european community and as such freedom of movement between european countries is part of the way it is
the tories have made a massive boo boo on immigration
in order to get votes they said they would be " tough " on immigration
the problem is is that they cant be " tough " on immigrants from the european community , see point above
so ehat they have said is they will put a " cap " on immigration from the old commonwealth and around the world
but they have got it arse about face ..
we need doctors and skilled engineers in this country as we dont have enough
very few of these come from europe ...they come from the old commonwealth and around the world
so ..the tories are stopping the very sort of people this country needs from coming i9n
and before people say lets train our own people !! , a report from the cbi and the federation of engineers said we need these people NOW ..
its all very well the sun ( which is full od shit ) slagging off the labour government but the tories that it wanted in with a majority ( tough luck mr cameron ) has policies that will do NOTHING about the bad immigrants we have and stop the good ones we need from actually coming in
what a bunch of twerps !!
Fri May 28, 2010 11:39 am
Zabier wrote:Follow Australia's lead. Unless you have a skill or something to offer then you aren't allowed in. I know it's harsh on those who are seeking asylum after being convicted against in their own country but we need to save ourselves before we save the world. I am against a total ban on immigration because immigration has always shaped our lives. Annis you have ancestors from abroad, as do I, as do most of our members and compatriots.
However, we need to get our house in order. Saying that, we also need to address the issue of all those lay abouts who do f**k all except take our tax money.
the tories have done exactly the opposite
the clowns are putting caps on immigrants we need ( doctors and engineers and other skilled workers we need from places like india ) and doing nowt about the immigrants that offer nothing
they are full of shit the tories , all talk and no action
Fri May 28, 2010 11:45 am
Forever Blue wrote:undybluebird wrote:COULDNT AGREE MORE ANNIS, IT HAS TO STOP ,OR WE WILL BE IN ALL SORTS OF TROUBLE!!
Schools/Hospitals/Housing/Crime, Britain just hasnt got the resources any more.
crime is down annis and it was higher when the tories were in
car cime down
violent crime down
children a lot safer than they were 20 years ago , lowest rates of violence against kids in 25 years
we dont have any housing because the tories sold all the council houses
hospital building UP under labour
will be DOWN under your lot
sorry annis , thats the way it is
all this talk about labour spending all this money is rubbish , the vast majority of the debt is due to the recession which started a few years ago , leading to less income from tax due to unemployment
and from that less private investment
all around the world this has happened
Fri May 28, 2010 11:47 am
Forever Blue wrote:Boyo is A Bluebird wrote:where did you get those stats Annis?
In The Sun Today when I was having my breakfast, Dont laugh but then I did a search to confirm it.
the sun
Fri May 28, 2010 11:49 am
i've said it before
im a rasist
i vote BNP
if only for their policy on immigration and if thats what it takes to shut the gate i'll buy a bloody tea shirt with it on.
free f*cking passports when the likes of us british citizens have to pay 100 odd quid.
lock the gates now or start packing for oblivion and extinction.
stop the f*cking scrougers before its too late
Fri May 28, 2010 11:52 am
Sludge is bang on his responses!
As usual with The Sun it's not the full story. Net immigration actually fell last year. The majority of the 200,000 people given passports have already been U.K. resident for over 5 years.
It's entry via the allocation of student visas that remains the biggest concern and where it seems quite simple to play/con the system. The assorted various public bodies do not work together to nulify these loopholes. There were plans to set up a dedicated border control organisation which would have helped coordinate all information. I'm not sure if this was ever progressed.
Fri May 28, 2010 11:52 am
here we go, Sludge the Red trying to gain support for New Labour.
Let's not forget the Electorate had enough of New Labour and threw them out.
Tories and Libs to shine
Fri May 28, 2010 11:58 am
hailesy wrote:here we go, Sludge the Red trying to gain support for New Labour.
Let's not forget the Electorate had enough of New Labour and threw them out.
Tories and Libs to shine
by capping non -eu immigrants and not capping eu immigrants.
Tories will never shine. They will be bad in government and will take the easy way out by claiming that it was none of their fault.
Fri May 28, 2010 12:03 pm
Sludge wrote:you cant " close the borders " , we are part of the european community and as such freedom of movement between european countries is part of the way it is
the tories have made a massive boo boo on immigration
in order to get votes they said they would be " tough " on immigration
the problem is is that they cant be " tough " on immigrants from the european community , see point above
so ehat they have said is they will put a " cap " on immigration from the old commonwealth and around the world
but they have got it arse about face ..
we need doctors and skilled engineers in this country as we dont have enough
very few of these come from europe ...they come from the old commonwealth and around the world
so ..the tories are stopping the very sort of people this country needs from coming i9n
and before people say lets train our own people !! , a report from the cbi and the federation of engineers said we need these people NOW ..
its all very well the sun ( which is full od shit ) slagging off the labour government but the tories that it wanted in with a majority ( tough luck mr cameron ) has policies that will do NOTHING about the bad immigrants we have and stop the good ones we need from actually coming in
what a bunch of twerps !!
Skilled engineers? In what field? I've not come across an engineering discipline wher we are
Crying out for foreigners? Software? We can train british people. Architecture/ heavy engineering?
I'm yet to hear of Laings haviing to hire an Indian project manager?
As for doctors? Well its blatantly obvious we need more doctors. WHY? Because the NHS is sinking
Under a sea of immigration. It is estimated we need 100 new doctors A WEEK just to cope with the
Tide of ILLEGAL immigrants and alleged 'foreign students' flooding the country every day. Stop the
Immigration and the pressure is off the NHS.
Britain needs also to stand up to europe and say a CAP is needed on european migration. The other
Members are laughing their cocks off at what's happening to Britain. There's no mass migration to any
Other european country and Spain is still the major place Brits emigrate to, but they generallly buy a
Home over there, are retired, and are NO burden to the Spanish welfare system.
Never mind what europe says, its britain all the immigrants head for, time to say no. What are europe
Going to do, stop our pocket money?? We GIVE europe far more than we get. Time to say no more!
Fri May 28, 2010 12:39 pm
I hate statistics they can be manipulated how ever you want. Half of crime now goes unrecorded to keep down these crime figures. Even muggins dont get put down, if there is a lot one particular crime then its not recordrd just to keep these statistics down and then the Police tell uss crime is falling. BOLLOX TO STATISTICS we no it is broken Britain.
Fri May 28, 2010 1:11 pm
Looking at this from another angle isn't it immoral of this country to pinch Doctors, Nurses, Engineers etc from third world countries who have their own people who could benefit from their skills, no matter how much we might need them?
Also there is a question to why we haven't trained enough of these people ourselves and are we denying our own people golden oppotunity to advance themselves?
Fri May 28, 2010 1:25 pm
There are plenty of British skilled professionals out of work in Britain alone. There are plenty of European projects that Britain could have done alone. With the skilled work for ce we coul dhave quite easily competed and kept ahead. Sadly the Governments of today have sold out to the big corporations who can now employ cheaper workforce. European projects have been sent abroad because its cheaper but advantage the big companies here.
The British person has been sold out by the Governments o fthe day and Labour in their 10 years of power have accelerated this process faster than any other Government. Labour have sold out simple.
Fri May 28, 2010 1:44 pm
i don't think the tories will stop skilled professionals coming to this country at all, they said they would get the numbers down to tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands surely doctors and nurses will be in those tens of thousands how many do we bloody need, also when they come here to work it should be only to work no to settle here indefinetly they should be on contracts that come up for renewal every few years, exactly the same as say a british nurse would be on in saudi arabia once the contract is finished they either renew it or go home, there are phillipino nurses in this country who have only been here say 4 or 5 years and in that time had 2 children they have spent just as much time on maternity leave as they have in work it's costing the nhs a fortune they came to work not have bloody kids , this country needs to get tough with them if they get pregnant send them back.
Fri May 28, 2010 1:56 pm
Also under the past Labour Government and the present coalition the policy on non-EU immigration is to use a points based system. I find it impossible to believe a Doctor, Nurse or Engineer wouldn't score enough points to qualify for a work permit if they are needed that badly.
What we don't want or need is more unskilled or semi-skilled workers from outside the EU and the points system should in theory prevent them from coming here.
Fri May 28, 2010 2:07 pm
BNP would put a stop to this
Fri May 28, 2010 2:10 pm
but bnp couldn't run a country and they a racist, having concerns about immigration doesn't mean you have to be a racist.
Fri May 28, 2010 2:16 pm
the blue path wrote:but bnp couldn't run a country and they a racist, having concerns about immigration doesn't mean you have to be a racist.
But it makes you a RACIST im sorry but thats the law.
Fri May 28, 2010 2:21 pm
The Premier 1 wrote:i've said it before
im a rasist
i vote BNP
if only for their policy on immigration and if thats what it takes to shut the gate i'll buy a bloody tea shirt with it on.
free f*cking passports when the likes of us british citizens have to pay 100 odd quid.
lock the gates now or start packing for oblivion and extinction.
stop the f*cking scrougers before its too late
haha, who ever said racists were stupid?!
or should that be rasists
Fri May 28, 2010 2:32 pm
The Premier 1 wrote:i've said it before
im a rasist
racist
i vote BNP
if only for their policy on immigration and if thats what it takes to shut the gate i'll buy a bloody tea shirt with it on.
very few people did , they are not the answer
free f*cking passports when the likes of us british citizens have to pay 100 odd quid.
lock the gates now or start packing for oblivion and extinction.
impossible , what we have to have is managed immigration
stop the f*cking scrougers before its too late
which ones
Fri May 28, 2010 2:34 pm
hailesy wrote:here we go, Sludge the Red trying to gain support for New Labour.
Let's not forget the Electorate had enough of New Labour and threw them out.
Tories and Libs to shine
but didnt vote for a tory government did they ?
I am not trying to gain support for labour , just pointing out where annis has got it wrong on these matters
Fri May 28, 2010 2:35 pm
bwoodblue wrote:hailesy wrote:here we go, Sludge the Red trying to gain support for New Labour.
Let's not forget the Electorate had enough of New Labour and threw them out.
Tories and Libs to shine
by capping non -eu immigrants and not capping eu immigrants.
Tories will never shine. They will be bad in government and will take the easy way out by claiming that it was none of their fault.
this is the key
and it seems almost everyone is forgetting it
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