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' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Sat May 16, 2015 11:00 pm

' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Craig Bellamy met Cardiff City fans on Friday night for a Q&A session which took place at Llanrumney British Legion in aid of the UHW Special Baby Care Unit, which all proceeds from the evening went to.

I had planned to go to the event but due to children not being allowed I weren't able to attend but thanks to City fan Nathan Burgess and a couple of other fans who attended, we have been given a full run down on how the evening panned out and what Bellamy had to say.

The Q+A started at 8pm and lasted for two hours.

Craig Bellamy, as most will already know, is helping coach youngsters in the City academy, Craig does this in his own time and for no payment, he is not employed by the club, Bellamy is enthusiastic about passing on his experience to the next generation of possible stars and takes huge encouragement from helping develop the younger players.

Craig told the room about his thoughts on the youth set up at Cardiff and said it was going downhill, he described these up as amateurish at City. He hopes that the little he can offer will help to improve things at Cardiff City.

Bellamy went further and stated that Swansea are taking over and it is very worrying for Cardiff, the Swans have a development set up in Heath and there is a new one starting up in Roath soon.

He said we need to pick up our game at academy level to produce players like Aaron Ramsey, clubs like Cardiff need to do this but it is not looking good at the moment.

When talking about youth players he said how highly he rates Declan John and that he hopes Declan is given the chance at Cardiff.

Bellamy was asked about the managers he played under at Cardiff, he said that under Dave Jones some of the players were just not interested and many players spent their time just eating or gambling and that is the reason why he felt they never went up under Jones. There was no camaraderie under Dave Jones and the coaching by Jones was not good enough so much so that Bellamy did his own training regime.

Under Malky Mackay it was very different, he enthused about Malky and regards him very highly. He backed Malky Mackay by saying 'we all do daft texts, if people went through most phones we would all in be in jail' whilst laughing but was adamant that Malky is definitely not a racist.

Bellamy said he had a lot of time and respect for Malky because he got the players to give their all, the work rate and desire and he had every player pushing themselves to succeed. Craig said the minute Malky left, it all went down hill.

He did though agree that the Cornelius signing was shocking, again laughing while saying so.

Vincent Tan as you know went after not just Malky but Iain Moody too, the situation has ruined Moody's career and apparently Moody is back living with his parents.

When it came to Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Craig was less than impressed, he said that the training methods were shocking and in his opinion Ole was out of his depth and in over his head and the club went further downhill very fast as a result.

Speaking about some of the players at Cardiff during his time there he said that Mark Hudson, Kevin McNaughton and Steve McPhail were true fighters and gave their all to the club and the cause and it is these type of players that the club desperately needs.

He also added that he would love to play in McNaughton's testimonial.

Peter Whittingham in Bellamy's opinion is someone who has always had so much potential but has not reached the level that maybe he should have, he said that Whitts is without doubt a great player but when things go wrong his head drops and as a result goes missing when the going gets tough.

Talking frankly about the current situation at the club he said it is simply not good enough and there is a lack of desire around the club to succeed.

Bellamy was asked if he would like to manage the club and he said he would love to manage Cardiff City in the future but club is just not working right at the moment, also adding that he would not take the job whilst Vincent Tan is control of the club.

Craig's car parked outside the club, a Bentley with the number 10 on on the plate, he explained that it comes from his time at Newcastle. speaking about his time at Newcastle he stated that it is a massive club but their fans expect a top 4 finish and that the fans of newcastle ambitions are too high.

He told the room that growing up he supported Liverpool but Cardiff is his hometown club and of course his City.

When asked about the biggest derby game he had played in, he was in no doubt it was Celtic Vs Rangers, the atmosphere, feeling around the City made it the most intense he had played in.

The most important part of his career was playing for Wales and was the best moments of his footballing career.

Craig Bellamy finished speaking to a great applause from the fans and the ones i have spoken with have said what a brilliant night it was and how interesting Bellamy is to listen to.

Re: ' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Sat May 16, 2015 11:08 pm

Interesting what he said RE: Tan.

Beyond bad that Ole was in no way vetted before taking the job training methods etc.

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Sat May 16, 2015 11:11 pm

All very I teresting but exactaly what I thought ne would say so nothing new

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Sat May 16, 2015 11:43 pm

He also called Slade a con man. Who doesn't have any professional coaching license.

Said Coleman is living off speeds legacy.

Bothroyd use to have tantrums and leave training under Jones.

Ole's agrnt is still on a retainer £400k signing players for cardiff.

Tan had no intention of paying Ole.

He actually said he like Declan John but doesn't think he's good enough, hope he's proved wrong tho.

Called Dutch Ray a border line genius, but really needs to keep his mouth shut on Twitter.

Re: ' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Sat May 16, 2015 11:47 pm

Said slade has never watched a youth game or taken a training session. Hence why Trollope has come in.

Said tan has no class.

Ole signed players worse than what the club all ready had .

Re: ' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Sat May 16, 2015 11:49 pm

People said he fell out with malky but he never. Tan refused to pay his promotion bonus, so he was pissed off.

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Sun May 17, 2015 1:25 am

Sounds like the club has gone backwards.

I have always dream of some big businessman coming into the club and taking us that step further. Careful what you wish for is the saying...never a true word spoken. Tan has turned out to be a step back and I just have a feeling more stories like this will come out specially when Tan finally goes.

Re: ' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Sun May 17, 2015 8:28 am

So the only way is down?

The fact that swansea is operating in our back yard is very worrying.

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Sun May 17, 2015 8:44 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:So the only way is down?

The fact that swansea is operating in our back yard is very worrying.



One question is why would they want 2 training camps in Cardiff? There is no way there is that many youngsters in Cardiff to justify 2 facilities! especially about a mile apart! :o

Re: ' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Sun May 17, 2015 8:45 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:So the only way is down?

The fact that swansea is operating in our back yard is very worrying.



One question is why would they want 2 training camps in Cardiff? There is no way there is that many youngsters in Cardiff to justify 2 facilities! especially about a mile apart! :o

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Sun May 17, 2015 8:58 am

From what I read, it sounds like the club is being run like a rotten & corrupt banana republic.

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Sun May 17, 2015 9:59 am

I believe Craig, Tan needs to go ASAP and well done to Craig for giving his time to the develop our youngsters

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Sun May 17, 2015 10:12 am

Ian Moody living back with his parents, what a saddo

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Sun May 17, 2015 10:21 am

ThomasC wrote:Ian Moody living back with his parents, what a saddo


I actually feel quite sorry for Moody. I don't condone for minute the texts. But he tried to defend his position and because Tan thought he'd been part of a 'dodgy' transfer, he went for him and wouldn't relent until he ruined him. Well Tan's got his wish as Moody's got little money(hence why living with parents) and ruined reputation. This was never about the content of the texts, it was about ruining the careers of Malky and Moody.

Bellamy mentioned that Tan had spent approx £1m a month on solicitors fees to try to dig up dirt on Malky and Moody. He doesn't think it's finished either.

Re: ' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Sun May 17, 2015 10:25 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:So the only way is down?

The fact that swansea is operating in our back yard is very worrying.



One question is why would they want 2 training camps in Cardiff? There is no way there is that many youngsters in Cardiff to justify 2 facilities! especially about a mile apart! :o


Allan, You would be shocked how many kids from Cardiff and Newport have now joined them. It hurts to see so many talented youngsters from Marshfield(always top of their League) now play for the Jacks.
Cardiff and Newport cover massive areas.

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Sun May 17, 2015 10:27 am

Stavross wrote:
ThomasC wrote:Ian Moody living back with his parents, what a saddo


I actually feel quite sorry for Moody. I don't condone for minute the texts. But he tried to defend his position and because Tan thought he'd been part of a 'dodgy' transfer, he went for him and wouldn't relent until he ruined him. Well Tan's got his wish as Moody's got little money(hence why living with parents) and ruined reputation. This was never about the content of the texts, it was about ruining the careers of Malky and Moody.

Bellamy mentioned that Tan had spent approx £1m a month on solicitors fees to try to dig up dirt on Malky and Moody. He doesn't think it's finished either.


Correct Stavros,total sad state of affairs,I wish Tan would concentrate on getting out of the mess that were from the last 4 years.

Re: ' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Sun May 17, 2015 10:29 am

Lou Vogel wrote:He also called Slade a con man. Who doesn't have any professional coaching license.

Said Coleman is living off speeds legacy.

Bothroyd use to have tantrums and leave training under Jones.

Ole's agrnt is still on a retainer £400k signing players for cardiff.

Tan had no intention of paying Ole.

He actually said he like Declan John but doesn't think he's good enough, hope he's proved wrong tho.

Called Dutch Ray a border line genius, but really needs to keep his mouth shut on Twitter.

The stuff about Slade not having all his badges, I took advice and thought it could be dodgy ground for myself or this forum to use it.

I don't know whether Slade has or has not got his badges and could be taken to task for demeaning his reputation if he has them.

Bellamy doesn't hold back and always speaks his mind, you got to give him that, I am disappointed I wasn't able to go.

Re: ' CRAIG BELLAMY SPEAKS OUT ON ALL THINGS CARDIFF CITY '

Sun May 17, 2015 10:30 am

Stavross wrote:
ThomasC wrote:Ian Moody living back with his parents, what a saddo


I actually feel quite sorry for Moody. I don't condone for minute the texts. But he tried to defend his position and because Tan thought he'd been part of a 'dodgy' transfer, he went for him and wouldn't relent until he ruined him. Well Tan's got his wish as Moody's got little money(hence why living with parents) and ruined reputation. This was never about the content of the texts, it was about ruining the careers of Malky and Moody.

Bellamy mentioned that Tan had spent approx £1m a month on solicitors fees to try to dig up dirt on Malky and Moody. He doesn't think it's finished either.


Makes you wonder which way he is going with the club.

The signs are that he is going to make sure we remain where we are comfortable with the power to make us drop. His only worry is that he needs enough supporters to maintain that stance. Well that is unless he is willing to put money into it all to compensate no support.

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Sun May 17, 2015 10:30 am

Stavross wrote:
ThomasC wrote:Ian Moody living back with his parents, what a saddo


I actually feel quite sorry for Moody. I don't condone for minute the texts. But he tried to defend his position and because Tan thought he'd been part of a 'dodgy' transfer, he went for him and wouldn't relent until he ruined him. Well Tan's got his wish as Moody's got little money(hence why living with parents) and ruined reputation. This was never about the content of the texts, it was about ruining the careers of Malky and Moody.

Bellamy mentioned that Tan had spent approx £1m a month on solicitors fees to try to dig up dirt on Malky and Moody. He doesn't think it's finished either.

It was clearly personal for Tan and it is not the first and I doubt if it will be the last either.

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Sun May 17, 2015 10:34 am

carlccfc wrote:
Stavross wrote:
ThomasC wrote:Ian Moody living back with his parents, what a saddo


I actually feel quite sorry for Moody. I don't condone for minute the texts. But he tried to defend his position and because Tan thought he'd been part of a 'dodgy' transfer, he went for him and wouldn't relent until he ruined him. Well Tan's got his wish as Moody's got little money(hence why living with parents) and ruined reputation. This was never about the content of the texts, it was about ruining the careers of Malky and Moody.

Bellamy mentioned that Tan had spent approx £1m a month on solicitors fees to try to dig up dirt on Malky and Moody. He doesn't think it's finished either.

It was clearly personal for Tan and it is not the first and I doubt if it will be the last either.


Still a gap in the Malky affair. How far are we from the truth about him that Tan went public about?

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Sun May 17, 2015 10:49 am

Lou Vogel wrote:He also called Slade a con man. Who doesn't have any professional coaching license.

Said Coleman is living off speeds legacy.

Bothroyd use to have tantrums and leave training under Jones.

Ole's agrnt is still on a retainer £400k signing players for cardiff.

Tan had no intention of paying Ole.

He actually said he like Declan John but doesn't think he's good enough, hope he's proved wrong tho.

Called Dutch Ray a border line genius, but really needs to keep his mouth shut on Twitter.



Strong accusations? :o

Great evening,Bells asked us all for this not to be put out.

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Sun May 17, 2015 11:40 am

From FB



Steven Thomas Good read that.


Reza Davies Some shocking things to come from that,I thought we played gd stuff under Jones so surprised to hear what Craig said about him not to surprised about the rest tho,malkay was a disciplinarian since him we've not had a strong character as manager just two pilloks who haven't a clue how to actually coach or get the best from players


Eugene Moore Iv herd that the Swans development academy which is operating in cardiff is run far better than cardiffs, a friends son has been on cardiffs and swanseas and he told me, sad part is we are going to lose out on some quality local lads in future if this continues,

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Sun May 17, 2015 11:50 am

Must of missed bellamy not asking for it to be out it, can anyone delete my posts please?

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Sun May 17, 2015 12:02 pm

Lou Vogel wrote:Must of missed bellamy not asking for it to be out it, can anyone delete my posts please?

There was one answer that Bellamy gave that the person asking the question said 'I'll make a note of that Craig!' and Bellamy laughed saying 'no that is just for us in the room'.

The people I have spoken with who were there said he didn't request or say that it is not to be recorded, written down or kept private.

So no worries :thumbup:

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Sun May 17, 2015 12:16 pm

is it worth deleting the coaching license post bout slade, dont wanna get bellers in any shit, (although prob too late)

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Sun May 17, 2015 1:27 pm

Cheers for the post, but there is nothing new really.

If you had most of the posters here what would Bellers say about Dutch Ray, Speed, Coleman, Dave Jones, Ole and the rest of the info I think most of us would already know his views.....

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Sun May 17, 2015 2:11 pm

I don't believe the stuff said about Slade but I am not surprised about what he said about Ole he looks more of the con man to me and Dave jones I already known about players gambling and drinking under him.

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Sun May 17, 2015 4:02 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:Strong accusations? :o

Great evening,Bells asked us all for this not to be put out.


Expect the club to be scouring the words as we speak.

How do you sack a volunteer? Why does he do it for nothing?

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Sun May 17, 2015 4:36 pm

Wayne S wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:Strong accusations? :o

Great evening,Bells asked us all for this not to be put out.


Expect the club to be scouring the words as we speak.

How do you sack a volunteer? Why does he do it for nothing?


Maybes he's passionate about helping kids make a career like he has?

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Sun May 17, 2015 5:26 pm

KBK-13 wrote:Maybes he's passionate about helping kids make a career like he has?


No doubting that. The question was more to do with how this little Q&A could affect his work at the club.

Being an unpaid volunteer he might just find his access to the club facilities blocked if they take offence at his words.