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There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:38 am

Given the complete euphoria around Welsh football at the moment, think we as a club need to be doing something special to bring these fans to club football. Obviously last night is hurting but the buzz is back in the game. Its fantastic to see young kids all in their welsh kits, doing a "Bale"....

I know we have reduced our season tickets but think we need to do more for new season ticket holders, an incentive before the bubble burst again

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:59 am

I see where you are coming from and it is a great idea but just wondering what we can do to capitalise on the football good feeling?

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:35 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:I see where you are coming from and it is a great idea but just wondering what we can do to capitalise on the football good feeling?


that's the tricky part.... incentives for brand new season ticket holders... cheap match tickets... I don't know but think the club needs to get out there and pull these fans in. Otherwise we could lose them again

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:03 pm

There is no spin off for CCFC from the Welsh success.

You are talking about bums on seats and all those that physically went to the games are already fanatics and are linked to clubs.

The rest of the euphoria will be similar to the Welsh Rugby teams support where they don't do club games but are there for a few international games.

We could see an upsurge in international games if we played at the Principality. That's about it.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:03 pm

i think a real major signing would help when bellers came the ticket and shirt sales went though the roof the only problem is i don't know who that could be :?:

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:24 pm

Wayne S wrote:There is no spin off for CCFC from the Welsh success.

You are talking about bums on seats and all those that physically went to the games are already fanatics and are linked to clubs.

The rest of the euphoria will be similar to the Welsh Rugby teams support where they don't do club games but are there for a few international games.

We could see an upsurge in international games if we played at the Principality. That's about it.


True but those fans who physically went to the games and are attached to a club (Cardiff City) are NOT all coming to CCS. Trying to get them back by using the feel good factor is a good idea.

However, the problem is how to tap into it?

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:40 pm

Easy. What about the club showing some ambition by bringing in some decent signings. We are being left behind when it comes to quality signings.

There is a crest of a wave after the Wales success and Cardiff should be in a position to entice new fans with a couple of marquee signings. With a couple of marquee signings and decent season ticket prices the club could increase its average gate by thousands. Invest, show a bit of ambition and the club could benefit.

Whether the club shows that ambition is another thing. Dwight Gayle to Newcastle & Steven Fletcher to Sheffield Weds for example are quality signings whilst other teams like Leeds and Bristol City have shown huge ambition.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:52 pm

Bringing back something like the Junior Bluebirds could be a start.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:00 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:I see where you are coming from and it is a great idea but just wondering what we can do to capitalise on the football good feeling?


Tony, Season ticket sales for next season were well under 10,000 last week.
We've reduced the costs :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
But I still see our club divided unlike Wales, I believe some fans won't return under Vincent Tan and many won't still forgive him.

Our club deep is still broken and many still don't trust.

Other clubs, smaller clubs have sold 14,000,20,000 season tickets.

We still have a month to go.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:41 pm

Can see it being a long hard season on here with familiar themes constantly being used to beat club with! :roll: :o

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:07 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Can see it being a long hard season on here with familiar themes constantly being used to beat club with! :roll: :o



Ok Allan, once again with your sarcasm.

Then you explain why the fans have deserted in their thousands upon thousands ?

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:14 pm

Cardiff city's last successful season in the top flight was 1953/54 .last major trophy 1927. The club needs to get this monkey off its back as soon as possible.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:22 pm

Wayne S wrote:There is no spin off for CCFC from the Welsh success.

You are talking about bums on seats and all those that physically went to the games are already fanatics and are linked to clubs.

The rest of the euphoria will be similar to the Welsh Rugby teams support where they don't do club games but are there for a few international games.

We could see an upsurge in international games if we played at the Principality. That's about it.



I disagree I know plenty of people who've barely been to a game before who went to France. Also plenty of city fans that don't go much anymore could get the buzz back.

At this stage with ST deals already out, the only thing we could do now is to sign a few exciting players but we're not doing business like that anymore so I think we'll just have to be patient and hope for some attractive winning football to bring people back.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:59 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Can see it being a long hard season on here with familiar themes constantly being used to beat club with! :roll: :o



Ok Allan, once again with your sarcasm.

Then you explain why the fans have deserted in their thousands upon thousands ?


Allan, time to offer an explanation. Take your time, tell everyone why sales have been slow despite being in the top 5 cheapest Season Tickets in the Championship.

We can receive your findings and recommendations and make it a sticky, CCFC take note! :bluebird: :thumbup:

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:38 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Can see it being a long hard season on here with familiar themes constantly being used to beat club with! :roll: :o



Ok Allan, once again with your sarcasm.

Then you explain why the fans have deserted in their thousands upon thousands ?


Allan, time to offer an explanation. Take your time, tell everyone why sales have been slow despite being in the top 5 cheapest Season Tickets in the Championship.

We can receive your findings and recommendations and make it a sticky, CCFC take note! :bluebird: :thumbup:


Thomas, he can only answer sarcastic, but never can answer the questions correctly or give a fair answer back.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:29 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Can see it being a long hard season on here with familiar themes constantly being used to beat club with! :roll: :o



Ok Allan, once again with your sarcasm.

Then you explain why the fans have deserted in their thousands upon thousands ?


Allan, time to offer an explanation. Take your time, tell everyone why sales have been slow despite being in the top 5 cheapest Season Tickets in the Championship.

We can receive your findings and recommendations and make it a sticky, CCFC take note! :bluebird: :thumbup:


Thomas, he can only answer sarcastic, but never can answer the questions correctly or give a fair answer back.


The platform is here to put that to bed if he so chooses, your audience awaits Pembroke Allan. :laughing6: :thumbup:

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:47 am

Allan, We are still waiting on your reasons? ?

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:51 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I see where you are coming from and it is a great idea but just wondering what we can do to capitalise on the football good feeling?


Tony, Season ticket sales for next season were well under 10,000 last week.
We've reduced the costs :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
But I still see our club divided unlike Wales, I believe some fans won't return under Vincent Tan and many won't still forgive him.

Our club deep is still broken and many still don't trust.

Other clubs, smaller clubs have sold 14,000,20,000 season tickets.

We still have a month to go.


There would be some truth in that Annis but I still believe too many fans use Vincent Tan as an easy excuse to cop out of supporting City when things aren't going well.

The post above by bridgendbluebird30 which suggests spending money on big name players is also a no goer on the grounds of financial fair play. FFP works the other way round in that you make the money first then spend big, rather than spend big in the hope of making money.

The answer is probably back to basics with the smaller crowds trying to urge the team on to bigger things and hopefully the support then returning.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:02 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I see where you are coming from and it is a great idea but just wondering what we can do to capitalise on the football good feeling?


Tony, Season ticket sales for next season were well under 10,000 last week.
We've reduced the costs :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
But I still see our club divided unlike Wales, I believe some fans won't return under Vincent Tan and many won't still forgive him.

Our club deep is still broken and many still don't trust.

Other clubs, smaller clubs have sold 14,000,20,000 season tickets.

We still have a month to go.


There would be some truth in that Annis but I still believe too many fans use Vincent Tan as an easy excuse to cop out of supporting City when things aren't going well.

The post above by bridgendbluebird30 which suggests spending money on big name players is also a no goer on the grounds of financial fair play. FFP works the other way round in that you make the money first then spend big, rather than spend big in the hope of making money.

The answer is probably back to basics with the smaller crowds trying to urge the team on to bigger things and hopefully the support then returning.



Tony,

I will Always stay Loyal and Love Cardiff City, but even I have been hurt so badly by Tan,Nash,The Red Brigade etc, My passion was hurt badly and still is while they remain in charge, so I understand where many are coming from.

I agree smaller crowds some times back the team better, but the crowd will be all over the place not pushed together and we have lost many loyal fans.


Even big name spending won't bring some back.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:21 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I see where you are coming from and it is a great idea but just wondering what we can do to capitalise on the football good feeling?


Tony, Season ticket sales for next season were well under 10,000 last week.
We've reduced the costs :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
But I still see our club divided unlike Wales, I believe some fans won't return under Vincent Tan and many won't still forgive him.

Our club deep is still broken and many still don't trust.

Other clubs, smaller clubs have sold 14,000,20,000 season tickets.

We still have a month to go.


There would be some truth in that Annis but I still believe too many fans use Vincent Tan as an easy excuse to cop out of supporting City when things aren't going well.

The post above by bridgendbluebird30 which suggests spending money on big name players is also a no goer on the grounds of financial fair play. FFP works the other way round in that you make the money first then spend big, rather than spend big in the hope of making money.

The answer is probably back to basics with the smaller crowds trying to urge the team on to bigger things and hopefully the support then returning.



Tony,

I will Always stay Loyal and Love Cardiff City, but even I have been hurt so badly by Tan,Nash,The Red Brigade etc, My passion was hurt badly and still is while they remain in charge, so I understand where many are coming from.

I agree smaller crowds some times back the team better, but the crowd will be all over the place not pushed together and we have lost many loyal fans.


Even big name spending won't bring some back.


I have no doubt about your hurt but you still buy a season ticket and attend in spirit every game. I still view those who stay away and blame Vincent Tan as a little suspicious as they were all there (bar a handful of exceptions) in 2013 when we played in the Premier League in a red home kit.

To give you a personal analogy I hate the Conservative Government with a passion but I would never want to see the UK crash and burn just to get rid of them. Given an exit strategy which didn't involve CCFC falling through the floor I would like VT to move on so we can bury this issue forever but that isn't going to happen any day soon so we as fans have to step up to the plate and make CCFC successful in spite of VT.

Being bitter can be therapeutic in short time spans. However, it becomes damaging if it lingers on and distracts from the more important issue. For me there is nothing more important than the wellbeing and success of CCFC. It is time to concentrate on that and show the world that the heart of those magnificent Welsh fans lay in it's capital club. Stronger/Together is a lesson we should take note of.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:24 am

RYANBLUE wrote:Given the complete euphoria around Welsh football at the moment, think we as a club need to be doing something special to bring these fans to club football. Obviously last night is hurting but the buzz is back in the game. Its fantastic to see young kids all in their welsh kits, doing a "Bale"....

I know we have reduced our season tickets but think we need to do more for new season ticket holders, an incentive before the bubble burst again


the fundamental difficulty is that fair weather fans aren't really interested in watching a mid table championship team hoof it up to kenwyne jones or whoever. cost is not really an issue, its more the quality of the product on offer.

even if you do manage to sell them a season ticket, they probably won't keep watching more than a season or two.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:26 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I see where you are coming from and it is a great idea but just wondering what we can do to capitalise on the football good feeling?


Tony, Season ticket sales for next season were well under 10,000 last week.
We've reduced the costs :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
But I still see our club divided unlike Wales, I believe some fans won't return under Vincent Tan and many won't still forgive him.

Our club deep is still broken and many still don't trust.

Other clubs, smaller clubs have sold 14,000,20,000 season tickets.

We still have a month to go.


There would be some truth in that Annis but I still believe too many fans use Vincent Tan as an easy excuse to cop out of supporting City when things aren't going well.

The post above by bridgendbluebird30 which suggests spending money on big name players is also a no goer on the grounds of financial fair play. FFP works the other way round in that you make the money first then spend big, rather than spend big in the hope of making money.

The answer is probably back to basics with the smaller crowds trying to urge the team on to bigger things and hopefully the support then returning.



Tony,

I will Always stay Loyal and Love Cardiff City, but even I have been hurt so badly by Tan,Nash,The Red Brigade etc, My passion was hurt badly and still is while they remain in charge, so I understand where many are coming from.

I agree smaller crowds some times back the team better, but the crowd will be all over the place not pushed together and we have lost many loyal fans.


Even big name spending won't bring some back.


I have no doubt about your hurt but you still buy a season ticket and attend in spirit every game. I still view those who stay away and blame Vincent Tan as a little suspicious as they were all there (bar a handful of exceptions) in 2013 when we played in the Premier League in a red home kit.

To give you a personal analogy I hate the Conservative Government with a passion but I would never want to see the UK crash and burn just to get rid of them. Given an exit strategy which didn't involve CCFC falling through the floor I would like VT to move on so we can bury this issue forever but that isn't going to happen any day soon so we as fans have to step up to the plate and make CCFC successful in spite of VT.

Being bitter can be therapeutic in short time spans. However, it becomes damaging if it lingers on and distracts from the more important issue. For me there is nothing more important than the wellbeing and success of CCFC. It is time to concentrate on that and show the world that the heart of those magnificent Welsh fans lay in it's capital club. Stronger/Together is a lesson we should take note of.



Yes true Tony, I have stuck by City no matter what, but thanks to Tan after 43 years of seeing every high and low, Tan is the closest Ive ever come to stop watching City.

Good comments on the Conservative party. :ayatollah:

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:17 pm

Funny two years of sarcasm from Allan, he's been looking on the forum but will never answer questions

Can dish it out, but can't take it back :D

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:07 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Yes true Tony, I have stuck by City no matter what, but thanks to Tan after 43 years of seeing every high and low, Tan is the closest Ive ever come to stop watching City.


For years I have watched as the number of years following CCFC has grown. Just as a matter of interest on what exact day does 43 years become 44 years i.e. your 'City' birthday? 8-)

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:25 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Can see it being a long hard season on here with familiar themes constantly being used to beat club with! :roll: :o


Allan, the familiar theme is usually from yourself actually.
I think a lot of the posters are just saying it as it is in reality. That doesn't mean they're beating the club constantly.

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:50 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Can see it being a long hard season on here with familiar themes constantly being used to beat club with! :roll: :o


Allan, the familiar theme is usually from yourself actually.
I think a lot of the posters are just saying it as it is in reality. That doesn't mean they're beating the club constantly.



You will never see me beat the club up about anything!! Not even our management setup! Yes people do say it as it is but also at slightest excuse others are blaming club for things behond their control . That's who I'm referring to. :thumbup:

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:13 pm

Allan, Still waiting ? ? ?

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:23 pm

I give up on you Allan and to think you u pm me moaning about other posters :lol:

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:01 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Can see it being a long hard season on here with familiar themes constantly being used to beat club with! :roll: :o



Ok Allan, once again with your sarcasm.

Then you explain why the fans have deserted in their thousands upon thousands ?



Crap football Crap fans who don't support team causing apathy, the cost, better things to do on Saturday oh mustn't forget tan good excuse can go on the list is endless? :thumbup:

Re: There are fans out there....City bring them in!

Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:03 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Can see it being a long hard season on here with familiar themes constantly being used to beat club with! :roll: :o



Ok Allan, once again with your sarcasm.

Then you explain why the fans have deserted in their thousands upon thousands ?



Crap football Crap fans who don't support team causing apathy, the cost, better things to do on Saturday oh mustn't forget tan good excuse can go on the list is endless? :thumbup:


So lets get to straight to the point, Crap football and Tan, that means your blaming our club?

Plus your saying our fans are crap? :o