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' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:49 pm

' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC? '

Speaking to a few City fans prior to the game tonight and each of them were confident we would win but my thoughts were that we would get a draw at best.

I just don't see enough in City's play that will see chances created for City to take control of a game.

A 3-0 defeat to Preston who themselves have been extremely poor is more than disappointing.

How long before Tan presses the panic button ?

I am not saying that Trollope should be sacked but will Tan think differently ?

Apparently Tan has learnt a lot since being in football or so we are told but will his patience be tested and will he panic, he knows he can't bring in any loan players so what we have got he can't change but the manager is the only thing he has got some control over.

Be interesting to see what sounds come out of the club over the next few days because lets be honest something needs to change very soon, it could be the system that Trollope is adopting but something must happen.

Re: ' WILL TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:51 pm

carlccfc wrote:Speaking to a few City fans prior to the game tonight and each of them were confident we would win but my thoughts were that we would get a draw at best.

I just don't see enough in City's play that will see chances created for City to take control of a game.

A 3-0 defeat to Preston who themselves have been extremely poor is more than disappointing.

How long before Tan presses the panic button ?

I am not saying that Trollope should be sacked but will Tan think differently ?

Apparently Tan has learnt a lot since being in football or so we are told but will his patience be tested and will he panic, he knows he can't bring in any loan players so what we have got he can't change but the manager is the only thing he has got some control over.

Be interesting to see what sounds come out of the club over the next few days because lets be honest something needs to change very soon, it could be the system that Trollope is adopting but something must happen.

I just don't know if Trollope is the man

Re: ' WILL TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:53 pm

Tan does not need to panic,he needs to make a sound decision and fetch in an experienced manager ,get rid if Trollope and Lennie.
Yes he got us promotion ,bug he wasted millions of Sam's money.

Re: ' WILL TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:53 pm

carlccfc wrote:Speaking to a few City fans prior to the game tonight and each of them were confident we would win but my thoughts were that we would get a draw at best.

I just don't see enough in City's play that will see chances created for City to take control of a game.

A 3-0 defeat to Preston who themselves have been extremely poor is more than disappointing.

How long before Tan presses the panic button ?

I am not saying that Trollope should be sacked but will Tan think differently ?

Apparently Tan has learnt a lot since being in football or so we are told but will his patience be tested and will he panic, he knows he can't bring in any loan players so what we have got he can't change but the manager is the only thing he has got some control over.

Be interesting to see what sounds come out of the club over the next few days because lets be honest something needs to change very soon, it could be the system that Trollope is adopting but something must happen.


He won't sack him Carl unfortunately. We are in a desperate mess, haemorrhaging goals and unable to score, system is not working, he may turn it round but it needs to be back to a rigid 442

Re: ' WILL TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:53 pm

Trollope definitely is not the man

Re: ' WILL TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:55 pm

Most of the posters on here said slades number two trollope was the man five weeks ago :laughing6:

Re: ' WILL TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:56 pm

He should absolutely be panicking. This team is falling apart. The system is clearly wrong for the players and Trollopes selection is all over the place. I question his motivation of the team as well. There is no urgency. There is plenty of quality in this squad and they should not be bottom 4 below teams like Burton. An older experienced manager is needed to steer this team to safety as they are already battling to survive. Trollope out.

Re: ' WILL TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:56 pm

Hope not still think it will take time for this new approach to work and I'm willing to give it patience. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: ' WILL TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:58 pm

carlccfc wrote:Speaking to a few City fans prior to the game tonight and each of them were confident we would win but my thoughts were that we would get a draw at best.

I just don't see enough in City's play that will see chances created for City to take control of a game.

A 3-0 defeat to Preston who themselves have been extremely poor is more than disappointing.

How long before Tan presses the panic button ?

I am not saying that Trollope should be sacked but will Tan think differently ?

Apparently Tan has learnt a lot since being in football or so we are told but will his patience be tested and will he panic, he knows he can't bring in any loan players so what we have got he can't change but the manager is the only thing he has got some control over.

Be interesting to see what sounds come out of the club over the next few days because lets be honest something needs to change very soon, it could be the system that Trollope is adopting but something must happen.

Thought this was another picnic thread.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:00 pm

Unfortunately it's all about cost cutting and even though the club stated that Trollope wasn't the cheap option clearly everything seems to point towards that. It's not only the formation and manager but unless the purse strings are loosened what do the club expect. Trying to get promoted on a shoestring does not work.

Don't go mad but at least try to strengthen rather than weakening the squad by selling your better players.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:00 pm

the system isnt working and our players arnt good enough. what doesnt help is trollopw constantly changing the line up and dropping our best player i.e whitts for huws who hasnt played a minute all season and leaving ralls on whos in terrible form.
it's not working and results need to change quick or its bye bye trollope.

but what then happens to 'the wales way' sorry i mean 'the cardiff way'? weve changed our whole youth set up to match this failing system.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:04 pm

I don't think he will panic. Promotion was never on the agenda (despite what the blue tinted glass brigade who were confident that this was the first of three consecutive wins kept telling us) and I while I don't see a good season ahead I don't see us going down either. I thought we could get a point here, but as we all know, anything can happen in this league. I am not too despondent because I took a realistic view of this season before a ball was kicked. I expected nothing more than mid table finish at the very best, and we will have more results like this mixed in with some good ones as well. In this division, we could quite easily end up dishing out a good beating to Leeds next time out.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:05 pm

Didnt watch the game tonight so cant comment on tonights performance too much but when i saw the starting line up my first thoughts were that he's made personnel changes but stuck with his system. Albeit a line up that could've easily changed to a 4-4-2 but nonetheless, another loss. Huge game against Leeds on saturday this early in the season. A 3-5-2 needs a creative, ballplayer in the middle of the park. City never had that in the starting line up tonight. Quite the opposite in fact. Ralls is struggling for form and i'm not fussed on Harris full stop, let alone as a wing back! Not calling for the managers head, far too early for that but previous managers have been criticised for not having a plan b, not sure if trollope has either

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:06 pm

Concerned but not panicking yet. There are still 39 games to go after all. Give it another half a dozen games and then review it again. Whatever happens, I'll be at all the home games, not moaning or booing, but getting behind the team.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:07 pm

I hope VT does something positive about this situation, firstly by getting rid of Trollope. The guy is simply not up to it at this level,,,,come to think of it, he wasn't up to it two leagues below us, and if City persevere with him that's exactly where we will be heading. The guys clueless. How many more defeats is it going to take before even the most optimistic of supporters throw in the towel?

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:08 pm

Sack him. Trollope is useless. Never a manager always a coach.
Get rid & get Warnock in now.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:08 pm

He won't sack Trollope. Who could he appoint ? Any decent manager won't be a yes man to Tan and his cronies, and so Tan won't appoint anyone with his own voice and opinions :bluebird:

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:12 pm

I was not happy with Trollop getting the job way out of his depth and should have been moved on with Slade or kept as a second man that's all he should be.

My concern is would a decent manager come here under the people we have running the club , I don't

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:12 pm

He won't panic. He gave Slade plenty of time and, will probably do the same with Trollope there's no way he would go out and spend some money to get us a proven manager.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:14 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:I hope VT does something positive about this situation, firstly by getting rid of Trollope. The guy is simply not up to it at this level,,,,come to think of it, he wasn't up to it two leagues below us, and if City persevere with him that's exactly where we will be heading. The guys clueless. How many more defeats is it going to take before even the most optimistic of supporters throw in the towel?


"Wasn't up to it two leagues below us" which is league 2 he got them out of it :lol: and to a respectable mid table position in league 1 on a shoestring and when he had his best players sold that's when he started to struggle there. :thumbup:

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:14 pm

Blueboys1927 wrote:He won't sack Trollope. Who could he appoint ? Any decent manager won't be a yes man to Tan and his cronies, and so Tan won't appoint anyone with his own voice and opinions :bluebird:

Spot on

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:19 pm

nubbsy wrote:the system isnt working and our players arnt good enough. what doesnt help is trollopw constantly changing the line up and dropping our best player i.e whitts for huws who hasnt played a minute all season and leaving ralls on whos in terrible form.
it's not working and results need to change quick or its bye bye trollope.

but what then happens to 'the wales way' sorry i mean 'the cardiff way'? weve changed our whole youth set up to match this failing system.


I think you're right.
The club are supposed to be changing the philosophy with this 'Cardiff way' nonsense so where would we go if Trollope is sacked this early? Bring another manager in and tell him we have to play with this system?
Tan losing face again?

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:19 pm

I think he'll give him time, but I bet he regrets sanctioning Marshall's transfer more than Trollopes appointment atm.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:28 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:I hope VT does something positive about this situation, firstly by getting rid of Trollope. The guy is simply not up to it at this level,,,,come to think of it, he wasn't up to it two leagues below us, and if City persevere with him that's exactly where we will be heading. The guys clueless. How many more defeats is it going to take before even the most optimistic of supporters throw in the towel?


"Wasn't up to it two leagues below us" which is league 2 he got them out of it :lol: and to a respectable mid table position in league 1 on a shoestring and when he had his best players sold that's when he started to struggle there. :thumbup:


And then what happened?

Ffs, any decent manager would of had a grip by now. How many more chances are you going to give him before you change your tune?

I can see another defeat next Sat v Leeds too. What we need is someone who knows what they are doing at this level, not a lower league novice, experimenting with a so called system of play, just because Wales use the same formation.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:32 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:I hope VT does something positive about this situation, firstly by getting rid of Trollope. The guy is simply not up to it at this level,,,,come to think of it, he wasn't up to it two leagues below us, and if City persevere with him that's exactly where we will be heading. The guys clueless. How many more defeats is it going to take before even the most optimistic of supporters throw in the towel?


"Wasn't up to it two leagues below us" which is league 2 he got them out of it :lol: and to a respectable mid table position in league 1 on a shoestring and when he had his best players sold that's when he started to struggle there. :thumbup:


And then what happened?

Ffs, any decent manager would of had a grip by now. How many more chances are you going to give him before you change your tune?

I can see another defeat next Sat v Leeds too. What we need is someone who knows what they are doing at this level, not a lower league novice, experimenting with a so called system of play, just because Wales use the same formation.


I will give him the season and I can see us beating Leeds on Sat because that's what happens when everyone's on a downer and expecting the worst they win remember Wolves away last season. ;) :ayatollah:

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:33 pm

Trollope needs to be given till the end of the month. He needs to ditch the formation as everyone can see that 3-5-2 is not working. If he doesn't change things and we are in a worse position he must go.

Re: ' WILL TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:56 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:Most of the posters on here said slades number two trollope was the man five weeks ago :laughing6:


Agree, Slade did an amazing job in the circumstances. Fans are so fickle.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:58 pm

carlccfc wrote:' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC? '

Speaking to a few City fans prior to the game tonight and each of them were confident we would win but my thoughts were that we would get a draw at best.

I just don't see enough in City's play that will see chances created for City to take control of a game.

A 3-0 defeat to Preston who themselves have been extremely poor is more than disappointing.

How long before Tan presses the panic button ?

I am not saying that Trollope should be sacked but will Tan think differently ?

Apparently Tan has learnt a lot since being in football or so we are told but will his patience be tested and will he panic, he knows he can't bring in any loan players so what we have got he can't change but the manager is the only thing he has got some control over.

Be interesting to see what sounds come out of the club over the next few days because lets be honest something needs to change very soon, it could be the system that Trollope is adopting but something must happen.



Nothing will happen as Tan is set in his ways and stubborn Dalman and choo are his puppets I can tell u this Craig Bellamy could do any worse as manager. Would get this team motivated for sure. Cardiff city players are overpaid and some of them very average. One word Barnsley 3rd in the table haven't spent as much as we have but have a manager that can bring out the best in his players. Huddersfield came into this category too. We are fighting relationship this season and on the first 6 weeks we will get relegated this season. Tan will come out and blame the fans as it's our fault. TROLLOPE is even worth than Slade. If we lose Sat 4 straight defeat there will be a lot of angry fans calling for him to resign. There is no structure at cardiff and we will be playing week in week out in an empty stadium. We have always supported cardiff city in our droves away from home support is sinking fast. I don't blame them paying good money to watch the rubbish we are playing it's shocking to think we're we were a few years ago premier league at this rate we will be doing a Leeds. Buckle up we are in for more rough rides. It's now time to get Tan Choo Dalman out and get cardiff city run by the fans for the fans.

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:20 pm

As long as he keeps on saying yes to Tan, his job is safe.

When will people realise that our owner is the problem, and not the managers he appoints?

Re: ' WILL VINCENT TAN PANIC ? '

Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:48 pm

I doubt he cares.