HEATON NOT REGISTERED

And when we were saying on here that we were facing an embargo back in June, we were shot down.

And when the trust met with Gethin Jenkins the day after I did, am I right in thinking that they were told there was no embargo, or were they told that at a later meeting ?

Whichever way, the club were under an embargo.Period.

I will support this club through thick and thin but I will not stay silent while certain people people at the club lies.

So he is definately not regiustered. Great.

So he is definately not regiustered. Great.

So Dave Jones says, so who is lying ?

We seem to be going round in circles with all this spin Carl. One minute the club say's something, or denies the other, then we find out they were lying all the time. I don't think i can take much more of this shit!

But you said that the embargo is being lifted in a few days so why will this be a problem?

But you said that the embargo is being lifted in a few days so why will this be a problem?

I am saying that the trust was told, alledgedly, that we were not under an embargo but when the trust met with the club Heaton had already been 'signed', so why he is now not yet registered ?

But you said that the embargo is being lifted in a few days so why will this be a problem?

I am saying that the trust was told, alledgedly, that we were not under an embargo but when the trust met with the club Heaton had already been 'signed', so why he is now not yet registered ?

It's possible that the league became aware of outstanding issues and reinstated the embargo and then retrospectively rejected the registration of Heaton?

But you said that the embargo is being lifted in a few days so why will this be a problem?

I am saying that the trust was told, alledgedly, that we were not under an embargo but when the trust met with the club Heaton had already been 'signed', so why he is now not yet registered ?

Think I meant to post this in the DJ aint happy thread. Sorry Carl

Didn't the trust meet him before you Carl?
Heaton came into your meeting and announced a few days later?
Seems unlikely to me but club could have had the embargo since then.

Although weren't the accounts due in April anyway?

What's wrong with Santiago anyway?
Heaton was saying how much he has massively improved.

Didn't the trust meet him before you Carl?
Heaton came into your meeting and announced a few days later?
Seems unlikely to me but club could have had the embargo since then.

Although weren't the accounts due in April anyway?

What's wrong with Santiago anyway?
Heaton was saying how much he has massively improved.

The trust definately met after me, because I was accused of trying to destabilise the trust and apparently I even got hold of the trust's submitted questions and asked exactly the same ones that they planned too.

Yes Heaton came into my meeting and I promised I would not reveal who he was and let the club announce it.

Heaton signing was announced on the 15th June http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 49,00.html
and then the following day 16th June Gethin Jenkins announces that the tax bill had been settled in full and the embargo was lifted leaving the club free to trade http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 87,00.html.

But now Dave Jones is saying that we have not registered Tom Heaton

Didn't the trust meet him before you Carl?
Heaton came into your meeting and announced a few days later?
Seems unlikely to me but club could have had the embargo since then.

Although weren't the accounts due in April anyway?

What's wrong with Santiago anyway?
Heaton was saying how much he has massively improved.

The trust definately met after me, because I was accused of trying to destabilise the trust and apparently I even got hold of the trust's submitted questions and asked exactly the same ones that they planned too.

Yes Heaton came into my meeting and I promised I would not reveal who he was and let the club announce it.

Heaton signing was announced on the 15th June http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 49,00.html
and then the following day 16th June Gethin Jenkins announces that the tax bill had been settled in full and the embargo was lifted leaving the club free to trade http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 87,00.html.

But now Dave Jones is saying that we have not registered Tom Heaton

Heatons signing was announced on 15th June, but it says he would not be signing until July 1st when his contract expires, perhaps that has something to do with him not being registered.

I notice we've got an acedemy with age ranges 17-19.
Santiago goalie aged 19.
is that to young to make a debut?
I would'nt have thought so?
What about giving youth a chance

The trust definately met after me, because I was accused of trying to destabilise the trust and apparently I even got hold of the trust's submitted questions and asked exactly the same ones that they planned too.

Yes Heaton came into my meeting and I promised I would not reveal who he was and let the club announce it.

Heaton signing was announced on the 15th June http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 49,00.html
and then the following day 16th June Gethin Jenkins announces that the tax bill had been settled in full and the embargo was lifted leaving the club free to trade http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 87,00.html.

But now Dave Jones is saying that we have not registered Tom Heaton

My mistake, I do remember the comments from some people about you trying to "destabilise the trust"

Interesting point from Nobby about it having to be signed on 1 july though.
Either way its not good news.

Didn't the trust meet him before you Carl?
Heaton came into your meeting and announced a few days later?
Seems unlikely to me but club could have had the embargo since then.

Although weren't the accounts due in April anyway?

What's wrong with Santiago anyway?
Heaton was saying how much he has massively improved.

The trust definately met after me, because I was accused of trying to destabilise the trust and apparently I even got hold of the trust's submitted questions and asked exactly the same ones that they planned too.

Yes Heaton came into my meeting and I promised I would not reveal who he was and let the club announce it.

Heaton signing was announced on the 15th June http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 49,00.html
and then the following day 16th June Gethin Jenkins announces that the tax bill had been settled in full and the embargo was lifted leaving the club free to trade http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 87,00.html.

But now Dave Jones is saying that we have not registered Tom Heaton

Clever word play by the club I would say:

The settlement of the outstanding sum will now enable Cardiff City to have the transfer embargo removed and forms the start of ongoing actions to see the club build and maintain a strong and stable financial footing.

Doesn't say the embargo has been removed but it will enable the embargo to be removed, which in a sense was true as it had to happen to enable to embargo to be removed. What they didn't say were other things would also have to be sorted.

Didn't the trust meet him before you Carl?
Heaton came into your meeting and announced a few days later?
Seems unlikely to me but club could have had the embargo since then.

Although weren't the accounts due in April anyway?

What's wrong with Santiago anyway?
Heaton was saying how much he has massively improved.

The trust definately met after me, because I was accused of trying to destabilise the trust and apparently I even got hold of the trust's submitted questions and asked exactly the same ones that they planned too.

Yes Heaton came into my meeting and I promised I would not reveal who he was and let the club announce it.

Heaton signing was announced on the 15th June http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 49,00.html
and then the following day 16th June Gethin Jenkins announces that the tax bill had been settled in full and the embargo was lifted leaving the club free to trade http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 87,00.html.

But now Dave Jones is saying that we have not registered Tom Heaton

Heatons signing was announced on 15th June, but it says he would not be signing until July 1st when his contract expires, perhaps that has something to do with him not being registered.

Yes Nobby but again I believe the trust were told that we were not under an embargo.

Didn't the trust meet him before you Carl?
Heaton came into your meeting and announced a few days later?
Seems unlikely to me but club could have had the embargo since then.

Although weren't the accounts due in April anyway?

What's wrong with Santiago anyway?
Heaton was saying how much he has massively improved.

The trust definately met after me, because I was accused of trying to destabilise the trust and apparently I even got hold of the trust's submitted questions and asked exactly the same ones that they planned too.

Yes Heaton came into my meeting and I promised I would not reveal who he was and let the club announce it.

Heaton signing was announced on the 15th June http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 49,00.html
and then the following day 16th June Gethin Jenkins announces that the tax bill had been settled in full and the embargo was lifted leaving the club free to trade http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 87,00.html.

But now Dave Jones is saying that we have not registered Tom Heaton

Clever word play by the club I would say:

The settlement of the outstanding sum will now enable Cardiff City to have the transfer embargo removed and forms the start of ongoing actions to see the club build and maintain a strong and stable financial footing.

Doesn't say the embargo has been removed but it will enable the embargo to be removed, which in a sense was true as it had to happen to enable to embargo to be removed. What they didn't say were other things would also have to be sorted.

The sort of spin we were used to with The Riddler and I hoped those days were long gone, now the fans deserve unequivocal honesty and we are not getting it.

Carl.

What does unequivocal mean?

To clever for me

The sort of spin we were used to with The Riddler and I hoped those days were long gone, now the fans deserve unequivocal honesty and we are not getting it.

Equally, if he signed in the middle of June but as with all signings of this kind, could not be registered until the transfer window opened on July 1st, it's quite possible that the club were being honest with the Trust and in that website statement but by the time July 1st had come round, they were put under another embargo for whatever reason thereby making it not possible to register Heaton.

Carl.

What does unequivocal mean?

To clever for me

without doubt, unconditional.

Carl.

What does unequivocal mean?

To clever for me

without doubt, unconditional.

Thanks for clearing this situation up.

The sort of spin we were used to with The Riddler and I hoped those days were long gone, now the fans deserve unequivocal honesty and we are not getting it.

Equally, if he signed in the middle of June but as with all signings of this kind, could not be registered until the transfer window opened on July 1st, it's quite possible that the club were being honest with the Trust and in that website statement but by the time July 1st had come round, they were put under another embargo for whatever reason thereby making it not possible to register Heaton.

That is why I asked if the trust were told this the day after the meeting Gethin had with myself or later. Because if it was later then it would have been at the meeting where the trust raised questions about Sam Hammam's potential return, now if it was at this meeting that the trust were told there is no embargo makes it slightly more worrying because the club issued a statement on the official site on July 1st http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 15,00.html denouncing an imminent return of Sam. I think and hopefully someone can correct me if I am wrong, the trust met with Gethin on July 02nd and therefore Heaton could have been registered on July 1st if as the trust were alledgedly told there is no embargo.

The sort of spin we were used to with The Riddler and I hoped those days were long gone, now the fans deserve unequivocal honesty and we are not getting it.

Equally, if he signed in the middle of June but as with all signings of this kind, could not be registered until the transfer window opened on July 1st, it's quite possible that the club were being honest with the Trust and in that website statement but by the time July 1st had come round, they were put under another embargo for whatever reason thereby making it not possible to register Heaton.

That is why I asked if the trust were told this the day after the meeting Gethin had with myself or later. Because if it was later then it would have been at the meeting where the trust raised questions about Sam Hammam's potential return, now if it was at this meeting that the trust were told there is no embargo makes it slightly more worrying because the club issued a statement on the official site on July 1st http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 15,00.html denouncing an imminent return of Sam. I think and hopefully someone can correct me if I am wrong, the trust met with Gethin on July 02nd and therefore Heaton could have been registered on July 1st if as the trust were alledgedly told there is no embargo.

My understand is that they were told it at the original meeting in the middle of June. I would guess they would therefore have not then felt any need to raise it again at a meeting 2 weeks later.

But that is just guessing on my part obviously.

That is why I asked if the trust were told this the day after the meeting Gethin had with myself or later. Because if it was later then it would have been at the meeting where the trust raised questions about Sam Hammam's potential return, now if it was at this meeting that the trust were told there is no embargo makes it slightly more worrying because the club issued a statement on the official site on July 1st http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 15,00.html denouncing an imminent return of Sam. I think and hopefully someone can correct me if I am wrong, the trust met with Gethin on July 02nd and therefore Heaton could have been registered on July 1st if as the trust were alledgedly told there is no embargo.

My understand is that they were told it at the original meeting in the middle of June. I would guess they would therefore have not then felt any need to raise it again at a meeting 2 weeks later.

But that is just guessing on my part obviously.

NJ The more I think about it more I believe it was at the meeting in which they were discussing Sam because I believe it was in the same and now infamous conversation that I was having with Mike Roderick and I remember I said to him that I believe we are under an embargo despite what Gethin says. Also if I believed we were under an embargo at the time of the meeting I had with Gethin, which was the 14th June, I would have raised the concerns there because Tom Heaton walked in whilst I was there, but I know we had settled the tax bill days previously and the embargo had been subsequently lifted already and I suggested that the club should tell the fans officially that this was the case but to my surprise Gethin said they could'nt possibly do that as the tax bill had not been settled at that point in time. But a full 4 days previously he had been quoted confirming just that http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -26623852/.

So he is definately not regiustered. Great.

So Dave Jones says, so who is lying ?

Carl, We have Signed him, but because we have been under This Transfer Embargo and Gethin Jenkins denied it, We were never able to register him. Jenkins and The Club have got to stop these lies, Like I said Before the Truth WILL ALWAYS COME OUT IN THE END.

But you said that the embargo is being lifted in a few days so why will this be a problem?

Still waiting for Malaysian money to arrive.

Keep the faith guys

its not all doom and gloom hes possibly one of the worst keepers in recent years, very poor last time round he was here in my view.

Your on Form Tonight Carl, Jenkins move over, I want Carl as Our New Chief Executive

Your on Form Tonight Carl, Jenkins move over, I want Carl as Our New Chief Executive

Like a dog with a bone Annis, it wound me up to read that Dave Jones wont have a goalie for the cup match unless the embargo is lifted, which by the way I think will happen in the next day or so, and then remembering that Gethin Jenkins alledgedly told the trust at the beginning of July there was no embargo.

Your on Form Tonight Carl, Jenkins move over, I want Carl as Our New Chief Executive

Like a dog with a bone Annis, it wound me up to read that Dave Jones wont have a goalie for the cup match unless the embargo is lifted, which by the way I think will happen in the next day or so, and then remembering that Gethin Jenkins alledgedly told the trust at the beginning of July there was no embargo.

I have Said for ages Gethin Jenkins was telling Porkies, He cant get out of this one