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Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 3:56 pm

You have presided over the worst cardiff side in a generation.

We stayed up because of a points reduction.

What is the plan, please? What investment are we getting?

If none, then please go!

Some say we would not have a club without you. Well, at the moment we have no club, just a shitshow every week!

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:05 pm

Tan just f**k off

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:14 pm

Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:15 pm

For me Tan should show his hands as he has said he wants us back in the Premier and to stay there for 10 years.

All we can do is wait and see.

And no I do not have much hope in him doing anything serious.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:17 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:For me Tan should show his hands as he has said he wants us back in the Premier and to stay there for 10 years.

All we can do is wait and see.

And no I do not have much hope in him doing anything serious.


Agree with this. He needs to make a statement of some sort and not through Dalman but he needs to speak.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:23 pm

maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:25 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:27 pm

maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”


Different scenario now. Sam ran out of money but that would not be the issue this time.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:29 pm

maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”



Neil,

Where did we go bust???


You read to much media.


Tan has received three offers including £100mill, he wants £200mill he is mad and slowly killing our club.

I still cant believe you stick up for the Dictator.

Worse season for over 20 yrs, worse runs of matches in 120 yrs etc etc etc etc etc


TAN OUT

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:29 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”


Different scenario now. Sam ran out of money but that would not be the issue this time.


I’ve read that but there’s no confirmation of it is there let’s be honest. I mean he said he had money way back when, but he didn’t.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:33 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”



Neil,

Where did we go bust???


You read to much media.


Tan has received three offers including £100mill, he wants £200mill he is mad and slowly killing our club.

I still cant believe you stick up for the Dictator.

Worse season for over 20 yrs, worse runs of matches in 120 yrs etc etc etc etc etc


TAN OUT


I’m not defending him and I 100% agree he needs to do one.

However people are talking shite and changing history to suit. Some clown says no investment in blue which is clearly tosh.

I think his price may have gone down a bit.

We almost went bust a number of times. First time when we sold our captain as we “ran out of money.” A number of other times when we were in court facing wind up proceedings from HMRC.

It’s not listening to media bullshit you know I’m better than that.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:36 pm

I hope Lamouchi grows a pair and tells tan i cannot do anything here with my best players leaving
and no money and if there is no clean slate i am walking
i have done what i can with what i got and its not good enough for the fans and club
"Will he or won' t he"

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:44 pm

Like all managers he will take whatever is on offer and belive he can improve the squad
He would have to be smoking wacky backy to think he could improve this lot
Allsop, alnwick,Simpson, Sawyers,Ojo, Harris and Wickham are all league 1 at best

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 4:47 pm

montyblue wrote:I hope Lamouchi grows a pair and tells tan i cannot do anything here with my best players leaving
and no money and if there is no clean slate i am walking
i have done what i can with what i got and its not good enough for the fans and club
"Will he or won' t he"


I think if he thinks he's on a hiding he'll walk.(Lamouchi I mean)

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:03 pm

I've tried not to react until the season is over as I feel now is a time to reflect. The one word to describe this club is a shambles.

Only stayed up because Reading were deducted points that's embarrassing for a start.

We've relied on the loan market the last 2 seasons to get us out of a mess it will eventually catch up with us when we do the same next season.

None of the loans will return next season they will no doubt get better offers elsewhere.

Reactive instead of proactive we are a ticking time bomb of a club the only people that don't see this is the imbeciles running us.

Tan is quite happy to carry on like this, his cronies will do as they're told, feed us fans with bullshit and false hope and us fans are supposed to sit there and believe the nonsense they spew out.

The only way this club moves forward is with ambitious owners who see's the potential this club has. The worry for me is when Tan does eventually sell I don't think it will be to right people.

Do you think Tan cares about us? Does he f**k that's what's worrying, he would love to see us slide even further down the pyramid after he's gone and make everyone believe he was some kind of miracle worker.

On and off the pitch it's a shambles, it's like groundhog day, the fans deserve better but unfortunately I only see things getting worse.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:08 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”


Different scenario now. Sam ran out of money but that would not be the issue this time.

Sam never ran out of money, he wasn't willing to put more in without the stadium, the council wouldn't give sam the planning permission for the stadium. So it was dead in the water.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:11 pm

Tan OUT!

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:12 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”


Different scenario now. Sam ran out of money but that would not be the issue this time.

Sam never ran out of money, he wasn't willing to put more in without the stadium, the council wouldn't give sam the planning permission for the stadium. So it was dead in the water.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... ore-target

Direct quotes from Sam.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:13 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”


Different scenario now. Sam ran out of money but that would not be the issue this time.

Sam never ran out of money, he wasn't willing to put more in without the stadium, the council wouldn't give sam the planning permission for the stadium. So it was dead in the water.


Why would they not give it to him?

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:14 pm

Clown ???? Well there's more than one on here who clearly remember what was said at the time so maybe it's you who is the clown with a bad memory.
I defended him for a very long time but finally saw the truth which is he is killing this club.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:15 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”


Different scenario now. Sam ran out of money but that would not be the issue this time.

Sam never ran out of money, he wasn't willing to put more in without the stadium, the council wouldn't give sam the planning permission for the stadium. So it was dead in the water.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... ore-target

Direct quotes from Sam.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:16 pm

maccydee wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”


Different scenario now. Sam ran out of money but that would not be the issue this time.

Sam never ran out of money, he wasn't willing to put more in without the stadium, the council wouldn't give sam the planning permission for the stadium. So it was dead in the water.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... ore-target

Direct quotes from Sam.

Says he overspent but it still doesn't doesn't alter the fact what Sam told me when I spoke to him , he had more money but they wouldn't give him the stadium .Sam has been very honest with me recently on his short comings the last time he was in charge. I do think if he had another crack at it things would be different but I also see why tan has the stance he has on it .

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:17 pm

JulesK wrote:Clown ???? Well there's more than one on here who clearly remember what was said at the time so maybe it's you who is the clown with a bad memory.
I defended him for a very long time but finally saw the truth which is he is killing this club.


Agree on the latter part.

Still disagree on the other part. He clearly invested while we were blue. Im fact he continues to invest now despite his mismanagement causing a lot of our problems.

Speaking of mismanagement.

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ardiffcity

We have been mismanaged for 25 years.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:18 pm

wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”


Different scenario now. Sam ran out of money but that would not be the issue this time.

Sam never ran out of money, he wasn't willing to put more in without the stadium, the council wouldn't give sam the planning permission for the stadium. So it was dead in the water.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... ore-target

Direct quotes from Sam.

Says he overspent but it still doesn't doesn't alter the fact what Sam told me when I spoke to him , he had more money but they wouldn't give him the stadium .Sam has been very honest with me recently on his short comings the last time he was in charge. I do think if he had another crack at it things would be different but I also see why tan has the stance he has on it .


I’d love it to be the Case.

No matter what was done it cannot be denied he got the club rolling again.

Absolute golden times.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 5:53 pm

maccydee wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:Just sell up ffs , let some one buy our club who knows what they’re doing or our club is heading for the pit


Easy as that?


He has already received an offer Neil but will not sell to the interested party.


Yep but There’s a reason for that.

I mean what if he sold to Sam and it went tits like it did before and we ended up bust again. We would all be very much “why did he sell to Sam?”


Different scenario now. Sam ran out of money but that would not be the issue this time.

Sam never ran out of money, he wasn't willing to put more in without the stadium, the council wouldn't give sam the planning permission for the stadium. So it was dead in the water.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... ore-target

Direct quotes from Sam.

Says he overspent but it still doesn't doesn't alter the fact what Sam told me when I spoke to him , he had more money but they wouldn't give him the stadium .Sam has been very honest with me recently on his short comings the last time he was in charge. I do think if he had another crack at it things would be different but I also see why tan has the stance he has on it .


I’d love it to be the Case.

No matter what was done it cannot be denied he got the club rolling again.

Absolute golden times.

Yes he's a character and I've changed my mind about him coming back but I would like tan to stay and invest more tbh .

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 6:26 pm

fred keenor wrote:Like all managers he will take whatever is on offer and belive he can improve the squad
He would have to be smoking wacky backy to think he could improve this lot
Allsop, alnwick,Simpson, Sawyers,Ojo, Harris and Wickham are all league 1 at best


No… I don’t agree…. I think they are all Sunday league park players myself.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 7:19 pm

Think it should be someone completely new myself, clean slate and all that, New owner, DoF, players who want to be here.
Don't know how much of it was down to SH as the football was classy because of DJ and the shoestring he worked with.

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 7:55 pm

I am surprised we still have fans because customers wouldn't be happy with the product and go elsewhere. VT is lucky.

I am unsure how much he really has invested, how much of the £200 mill is recycled, and clever accounting. Does he use the losses to offset local tax burden for his other ventures, I don't know, and nor does anyone else.

What i do know is he hasn't put a decent structure in so we go from crisis to crisis.We can't sell anyone because we have got other rejects. We have wrecked any decent kids from beliving they can go from U21 (glorified exhibition stuff) to championship, but not only that he thought he could do it with the managers.

He needs to go or have a plan, because he can't wing it with shed loads of cash anymore

Re: Over to you Vincent Tan

Mon May 08, 2023 8:06 pm

Regarding how much Tan has put in and is it used from Tax burdens that get me to ask the question why has Dalman put in £30m.

Why?