Kieffer Moore

Linked to Stoke.

Would take him back 100%

Downed tools for us so I wouldn't.

Sulking spoilt brat.. no thanks

Sulking spoilt brat.. no thanks

Yep, but knowing city I would not be surprised to see it happen, as they still owe us a load of money

Don’t get this down tools nonsense??

The actual facts were he was denied a move to a Premier League team and the chance to probably quadruple his salary (would any of us be happy if this happened to us)

He was also played as a lone striker with absolutely no support living off crumbs with high balls pumped up to him and nobody creating any chances for him

It’s no wonder his performance dropped but he certainly didn’t “down tools”

He was our best striker we have had over the last 5/6 years and I would definitely take him back!!

He was a one season wonder for us & once his head was turned he just stopped trying. Doesn't matter if he was offered a job on more money & was denied a move, football is a little different than having a normal job as he can't just quit & go elsewhere while under a contract and 100% downed tools like a child stamping his feet until he gets what he wants.

He was a one season wonder for us & once his head was turned he just stopped trying. Doesn't matter if he was offered a job on more money & was denied a move, football is a little different than having a normal job as he can't just quit & go elsewhere while under a contract and 100% downed tools like a child stamping his feet until he gets what he wants.

His form dropped because the team at the time was playing dire long ball football, he was a lone striker with nobody within 20 yards of him and absolutely no creativity in midfield and every month he was probably losing over a £100k in extra wages

For a big bloke, he seemed to fall over very easily.

He was a one season wonder for us & once his head was turned he just stopped trying. Doesn't matter if he was offered a job on more money & was denied a move, football is a little different than having a normal job as he can't just quit & go elsewhere while under a contract and 100% downed tools like a child stamping his feet until he gets what he wants.

His form dropped because the team at the time was playing dire long ball football, he was a lone striker with nobody within 20 yards of him and absolutely no creativity in midfield and every month he was probably losing over a £100k in extra wages

So what? He signed a contract to play for Cardiff City FC. Or are you saying that players should just be able to leave clubs when they get a better offer from another club? His form dropped because he stopped trying & stopped chasing down the ball where the year before he would have chased it until it was long gone out of play.

If you don't think he downed tools then fair enough that's your view which is different to mine & we all see things differently
but it seems like you're saying he did but he was fully justified in doing so.

Downed tools for us so I wouldn't.

^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

Keiffer let us down badly and showed he isn't a 'professional' by his actions (or lack of) when here...

He can do one IMHO and Stoke City and their weird support would probably be a good destination for him. They love their Welsh players/managers up there...

The club let Kieffer down by not replacing the likes of Harry Wilson who was great supplying kieffer instead we sent wilson back and never replaced anything like him the team wend down hill and kieffer never had the chances plus he knew we were never going to get promoted while Tan wont spend money

I dont blame Kieffer going at all he never downed tools he was let down like the rest of us of by poor ownership not getting good players in with him

The club let Kieffer down by not replacing the likes of Harry Wilson who was great supplying kieffer instead we sent wilson back and never replaced anything like him the team wend down hill and kieffer never had the chances plus he knew we were never going to get promoted while Tan wont spend money

I dont blame Kieffer going at all he never downed tools he was let down like the rest of us of by poor ownership not getting good players in with him

Just a polite question re downing tools...

Where was he once the originally proposed move fell through...?

He missed a stack of games blaming Covid and other issues but was suddenly ready again when Bournemouth made the late January window move...

IMHO, he went MIA and I won't be welcoming him back to the CCS in a blue or red shirt...!

I'm with Valley Ram. At least Kieffer had done the business for us. Is a proven international goal scorer. He felt he deserved the 'big move'

It was a dick move by him to force a transfer. But he's not a city fan. Take the emotion out of it. Most footballers would do it!

But you can't call him out, yet defend an u21 player who also 'downed tools' by refusing a loan.

The hypocrisy by some on here is laughable.

i seem to him missing most of December, with "injuries and then saying he had covid" i might be wrong, but it was clearly done to avoid getting injured before leaving in the January because he played right away for Bournemouth but then injured himself in his first game

Its a short career and it was obvious we were more likely to end up in L1 than the premier league then there was the legend Steve Morison as our manager.........I'd have tried to get out as well, especially after stopping me going to Wolves

I'm with Valley Ram. At least Kieffer had done the business for us. Is a proven international goal scorer. He felt he deserved the 'big move'

It was a dick move by him to force a transfer. But he's not a city fan. Take the emotion out of it. Most footballers would do it!

But you can't call him out, yet defend an u21 player who also 'downed tools' by refusing a loan.

The hypocrisy by some on here is laughable.

That's fair enough up until the 'under 21' jibe...

Lots more to that than you understand but hey, each to their own and if you think a 1st team player is okay to let the club down when we needed him so much, I wonder what low levels are acceptable before a player is able to be criticised for downing tools (something the under 21 never did)?

I’d take him back,we are in a difficult position right now and players of standard won’t be easy to get.
And if he started scoring a few s as ll would be forgiven by most

I'm with Valley Ram. At least Kieffer had done the business for us. Is a proven international goal scorer. He felt he deserved the 'big move'

It was a dick move by him to force a transfer. But he's not a city fan. Take the emotion out of it. Most footballers would do it!

But you can't call him out, yet defend an u21 player who also 'downed tools' by refusing a loan.

The hypocrisy by some on here is laughable.

That's fair enough up until the 'under 21' jibe...

Lots more to that than you understand but hey, each to their own and if you think a 1st team player is okay to let the club down when we needed him so much, I wonder what low levels are acceptable before a player is able to be criticised for downing tools (something the under 21 never did)?

Kieffer Moore wore our shirt. Did the business. Deserves criticism, yes, of course. An u21 who never did, refuses to do as told, not allowed to criticise. Engage... Tell us what you know... You won't.

Why pretend to know more than others? It's childish.

Lots more to the a lot world of professional football than you understand too. But hey. Each to their own.

Sven, this isn't a wind up, honestly , I agree 110% . Moore was a professional footballer with us and for all to see downed tools at the end. Nobody could deny him a move to a better paid job but if I was the manager I would have said you can go in the summer to give us time to find a replacement and perhaps encourage more interest, if you don't want to do that and continue to mess us about its the youth team. Of course what nobody knows is that the BOD would have taken any money for him and sold him under the managers nose. Ramsey was a different but similar sale on the cheap in a way. Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd all wanted him and he went for a pathetic £5 million. How often do we sell to the first bidder?
No doubt we will be back to Ramsey and his trip to Disney pretty soon!

Sven, this isn't a wind up, honestly , I agree 110% . Moore was a professional footballer with us and for all to see downed tools at the end. Nobody could deny him a move to a better paid job but if I was the manager I would have said you can go in the summer to give us time to find a replacement and perhaps encourage more interest, if you don't want to do that and continue to mess us about its the youth team. Of course what nobody knows is that the BOD would have taken any money for him and sold him under the managers nose. Ramsey was a different but similar sale on the cheap in a way. Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd all wanted him and he went for a pathetic £5 million. How often do we sell to the first bidder?
No doubt we will be back to Ramsey and his trip to Disney pretty soon!

Respect that post and agree with much, fella...

For me, as disappointed as he was not to go to Wolves (I think) and the part the club played in it, he should not have downed tools...

For the record, Rambo genuinely did go to Disney...

He loves the place.
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Had an absolute’mare tonight, still pissed from his wedding

Spot on. It should have taken place after the June qualification matches.

Well he will have more time now to sort out a move - Big miss on Monday ...Time for others to step up .

I'm with Valley Ram. At least Kieffer had done the business for us. Is a proven international goal scorer. He felt he deserved the 'big move'

It was a dick move by him to force a transfer. But he's not a city fan. Take the emotion out of it. Most footballers would do it!

But you can't call him out, yet defend an u21 player who also 'downed tools' by refusing a loan.

The hypocrisy by some on here is laughable.

That's fair enough up until the 'under 21' jibe...

Lots more to that than you understand but hey, each to their own and if you think a 1st team player is okay to let the club down when we needed him so much, I wonder what low levels are acceptable before a player is able to be criticised for downing tools (something the under 21 never did)?

Kieffer Moore wore our shirt. Did the business. Deserves criticism, yes, of course. An u21 who never did, refuses to do as told, not allowed to criticise. Engage... Tell us what you know... You won't.

Why pretend to know more than others? It's childish.

Lots more to the a lot world of professional football than you understand too. But hey. Each to their own.

I love posts like this, where a disgruntled poster (in this case you) makes out the information given is not correct usually because they know so little themselves...

It's not the first time you've had a little snipe and I doubt it will be the last but let's clear this particular post up, so that you just might think in the future...

Firstly, Keiffer Moore did very well for us in his first season but he 100% down-tooled once he became aware of the ultimately failed Wolves bid. That he hardly played after that will always grate with me and others I know. He fully deserves criticism for that...

I don't (quote you) "pretend to know more than others" but to prove it doesn't mean I have to give away my contacts and/or sources. People on here can take anything that is put out by myself or any other poster in any way they like but there are others who will have backed me up on the Lennon Peake situation because they also know the details. Not telling you personally doesn't mean they aren't correct...

The world of professional football is a dynamic one, where things change almost by the minute. It doesn't mean information passed on isn't 'correct' at point of posting but as with anything, situations/positions change and you've been on here long enough to know that (or at least I thought you had)

I'm with Valley Ram. At least Kieffer had done the business for us. Is a proven international goal scorer. He felt he deserved the 'big move'

It was a dick move by him to force a transfer. But he's not a city fan. Take the emotion out of it. Most footballers would do it!

But you can't call him out, yet defend an u21 player who also 'downed tools' by refusing a loan.

The hypocrisy by some on here is laughable.

That's fair enough up until the 'under 21' jibe...

Lots more to that than you understand but hey, each to their own and if you think a 1st team player is okay to let the club down when we needed him so much, I wonder what low levels are acceptable before a player is able to be criticised for downing tools (something the under 21 never did)?

Kieffer Moore wore our shirt. Did the business. Deserves criticism, yes, of course. An u21 who never did, refuses to do as told, not allowed to criticise. Engage... Tell us what you know... You won't.

Why pretend to know more than others? It's childish.

Lots more to the a lot world of professional football than you understand too. But hey. Each to their own.

I love posts like this, where a disgruntled poster (in this case you) makes out the information given is not correct usually because they know so little themselves...

It's not the first time you've had a little snipe and I doubt it will be the last but let's clear this particular post up, so that you just might think in the future...

Firstly, Keiffer Moore did very well for us in his first season but he 100% down-tooled once he became aware of the ultimately failed Wolves bid. That he hardly played after that will always grate with me and others I know. He fully deserves criticism for that...

I don't (quote you) "pretend to know more than others" but to prove it doesn't mean I have to give away my contacts and/or sources. People on here can take anything that is put out by myself or any other poster in any way they like but there are others who will have backed me up on the Lennon Peake situation because they also know the details. Not telling you personally doesn't mean they aren't correct...

The world of professional football is a dynamic one, where things change almost by the minute. It doesn't mean information passed on isn't 'correct' at point of posting but as with anything, situations/positions change and you've been on here long enough to know that (or at least I thought you had)

Nice. Good post. So you basically agree with everything I've said. Thanks.

Doesn't also stop you from being a hypocrite. (As I did not say your info was incorrect). Fact is you can't criticise one player for doing something and not another for doing very similar.

But I suppose you also have 'sources' in Kieffer's camp too?!

For info. I'm not a disgruntled poster. I am not going to suck up to you (as others do). I am a valued poster who talks as much sense, nonsense and banter as the next person. Just because you don't always agree with me doesn't mean I'm wrong!

I'm with Valley Ram. At least Kieffer had done the business for us. Is a proven international goal scorer. He felt he deserved the 'big move'

It was a dick move by him to force a transfer. But he's not a city fan. Take the emotion out of it. Most footballers would do it!

But you can't call him out, yet defend an u21 player who also 'downed tools' by refusing a loan.

The hypocrisy by some on here is laughable.

That's fair enough up until the 'under 21' jibe...

Lots more to that than you understand but hey, each to their own and if you think a 1st team player is okay to let the club down when we needed him so much, I wonder what low levels are acceptable before a player is able to be criticised for downing tools (something the under 21 never did)?

Kieffer Moore wore our shirt. Did the business. Deserves criticism, yes, of course. An u21 who never did, refuses to do as told, not allowed to criticise. Engage... Tell us what you know... You won't.

Why pretend to know more than others? It's childish.

Lots more to the a lot world of professional football than you understand too. But hey. Each to their own.

I love posts like this, where a disgruntled poster (in this case you) makes out the information given is not correct usually because they know so little themselves...

It's not the first time you've had a little snipe and I doubt it will be the last but let's clear this particular post up, so that you just might think in the future...

Firstly, Keiffer Moore did very well for us in his first season but he 100% down-tooled once he became aware of the ultimately failed Wolves bid. That he hardly played after that will always grate with me and others I know. He fully deserves criticism for that...

I don't (quote you) "pretend to know more than others" but to prove it doesn't mean I have to give away my contacts and/or sources. People on here can take anything that is put out by myself or any other poster in any way they like but there are others who will have backed me up on the Lennon Peake situation because they also know the details. Not telling you personally doesn't mean they aren't correct...

The world of professional football is a dynamic one, where things change almost by the minute. It doesn't mean information passed on isn't 'correct' at point of posting but as with anything, situations/positions change and you've been on here long enough to know that (or at least I thought you had)

Nice. Good post. So you basically agree with everything I've said. Thanks.

Doesn't also stop you from being a hypocrite. (As I did not say your info was incorrect). Fact is you can't criticise one player for doing something and not another for doing very similar.

But I suppose you also have 'sources' in Kieffer's camp too?!

For info. I'm not a disgruntled poster. I am not going to suck up to you (as others do). I am a valued poster who talks as much sense, nonsense and banter as the next person. Just because you don't always agree with me doesn't mean I'm wrong!

I am certainly not a hypocrite and you need to understand that word before bandying it so loosely. I don't think (and would be dismayed if) anyone 'sucks up' to me. That is not what I'm about and anyone who actually knows me will tell you that but you believe what you like. It's your prerogative, rightly or (in this case) wrongly...

Whether I agree or disagree with you at any point is yours to decide but IMHO you are a disgruntled poster because you don't like that others may know a little bit more than you on occasion and your responses (as above) show that

Having said that, I don't recall saying you weren't 'valued' at any point and I often agree with your views...

For the record, I don't have anyone in 'Keiffer's camp' and never suggested otherwise. I simply criticise him on the evidence as I see it (he down-tooled) and will stand by that...

The U-21 was a completely different situation that had as much to do with our club's off-field antics as it did on-field...

I'm with Valley Ram. At least Kieffer had done the business for us. Is a proven international goal scorer. He felt he deserved the 'big move'

It was a dick move by him to force a transfer. But he's not a city fan. Take the emotion out of it. Most footballers would do it!

But you can't call him out, yet defend an u21 player who also 'downed tools' by refusing a loan.

The hypocrisy by some on here is laughable.

That's fair enough up until the 'under 21' jibe...

Lots more to that than you understand but hey, each to their own and if you think a 1st team player is okay to let the club down when we needed him so much, I wonder what low levels are acceptable before a player is able to be criticised for downing tools (something the under 21 never did)?

Kieffer Moore wore our shirt. Did the business. Deserves criticism, yes, of course. An u21 who never did, refuses to do as told, not allowed to criticise. Engage... Tell us what you know... You won't.

Why pretend to know more than others? It's childish.

Lots more to the a lot world of professional football than you understand too. But hey. Each to their own.

I love posts like this, where a disgruntled poster (in this case you) makes out the information given is not correct usually because they know so little themselves...

It's not the first time you've had a little snipe and I doubt it will be the last but let's clear this particular post up, so that you just might think in the future...

Firstly, Keiffer Moore did very well for us in his first season but he 100% down-tooled once he became aware of the ultimately failed Wolves bid. That he hardly played after that will always grate with me and others I know. He fully deserves criticism for that...

I don't (quote you) "pretend to know more than others" but to prove it doesn't mean I have to give away my contacts and/or sources. People on here can take anything that is put out by myself or any other poster in any way they like but there are others who will have backed me up on the Lennon Peake situation because they also know the details. Not telling you personally doesn't mean they aren't correct...

The world of professional football is a dynamic one, where things change almost by the minute. It doesn't mean information passed on isn't 'correct' at point of posting but as with anything, situations/positions change and you've been on here long enough to know that (or at least I thought you had)

Nice. Good post. So you basically agree with everything I've said. Thanks.

Doesn't also stop you from being a hypocrite. (As I did not say your info was incorrect). Fact is you can't criticise one player for doing something and not another for doing very similar.

But I suppose you also have 'sources' in Kieffer's camp too?!

For info. I'm not a disgruntled poster. I am not going to suck up to you (as others do). I am a valued poster who talks as much sense, nonsense and banter as the next person. Just because you don't always agree with me doesn't mean I'm wrong!

I am certainly not a hypocrite and you need to understand that word before bandying it so loosely. I don't think (and would be dismayed if) anyone 'sucks up' to me. That is not what I'm about and anyone who actually knows me will tell you that but you believe what you like. It's your prerogative, rightly or (in this case) wrongly...

Whether I agree or disagree with you at any point is yours to decide but IMHO you are a disgruntled poster because you don't like that others may know a little bit more than you on occasion and your responses (as above) often show that

Having said that, I don't recall saying you weren't 'valued' at any point and I often agree with your views...

For the record, I don't have anyone in 'Keiffer's camp' and never suggested otherwise. I simply criticise him on the evidence as I see it (he down-tooled) and will stand by that...

The U-21 was a completely different situation that had as much to do with our club's off-field antics as it did on-field...

You can admit you are being a hypocrite in this situation. Not in life, not in general.

I'm not disgruntled and certainly not because you know more. Grow up. I know my value, I don't need you to justify that and I know you didn't say I'm not. But you love putting words in others mouths too. There's a lot more about football, footballers and our club I know than you. But I simply don't shout from the rooftops about it.

I agree with you there is more to the situation than I know. I'm not really as bothered as you think I am. If I wanted to I'd find out. I just don't agree with people talking in riddles as you do on occasion.

And I don't agree with unwarranted criticism or protecting people that also deserve it.

But you're never wrong. We know that. I can't win. The end.

I'm with Valley Ram. At least Kieffer had done the business for us. Is a proven international goal scorer. He felt he deserved the 'big move'

It was a dick move by him to force a transfer. But he's not a city fan. Take the emotion out of it. Most footballers would do it!

But you can't call him out, yet defend an u21 player who also 'downed tools' by refusing a loan.

The hypocrisy by some on here is laughable.

That's fair enough up until the 'under 21' jibe...

Lots more to that than you understand but hey, each to their own and if you think a 1st team player is okay to let the club down when we needed him so much, I wonder what low levels are acceptable before a player is able to be criticised for downing tools (something the under 21 never did)?

Kieffer Moore wore our shirt. Did the business. Deserves criticism, yes, of course. An u21 who never did, refuses to do as told, not allowed to criticise. Engage... Tell us what you know... You won't.

Why pretend to know more than others? It's childish.

Lots more to the a lot world of professional football than you understand too. But hey. Each to their own.

I love posts like this, where a disgruntled poster (in this case you) makes out the information given is not correct usually because they know so little themselves...

It's not the first time you've had a little snipe and I doubt it will be the last but let's clear this particular post up, so that you just might think in the future...

Firstly, Keiffer Moore did very well for us in his first season but he 100% down-tooled once he became aware of the ultimately failed Wolves bid. That he hardly played after that will always grate with me and others I know. He fully deserves criticism for that...

I don't (quote you) "pretend to know more than others" but to prove it doesn't mean I have to give away my contacts and/or sources. People on here can take anything that is put out by myself or any other poster in any way they like but there are others who will have backed me up on the Lennon Peake situation because they also know the details. Not telling you personally doesn't mean they aren't correct...

The world of professional football is a dynamic one, where things change almost by the minute. It doesn't mean information passed on isn't 'correct' at point of posting but as with anything, situations/positions change and you've been on here long enough to know that (or at least I thought you had)

Nice. Good post. So you basically agree with everything I've said. Thanks.

Doesn't also stop you from being a hypocrite. (As I did not say your info was incorrect). Fact is you can't criticise one player for doing something and not another for doing very similar.

But I suppose you also have 'sources' in Kieffer's camp too?!

For info. I'm not a disgruntled poster. I am not going to suck up to you (as others do). I am a valued poster who talks as much sense, nonsense and banter as the next person. Just because you don't always agree with me doesn't mean I'm wrong!

I am certainly not a hypocrite and you need to understand that word before bandying it so loosely. I don't think (and would be dismayed if) anyone 'sucks up' to me. That is not what I'm about and anyone who actually knows me will tell you that but you believe what you like. It's your prerogative, rightly or (in this case) wrongly...

Whether I agree or disagree with you at any point is yours to decide but IMHO you are a disgruntled poster because you don't like that others may know a little bit more than you on occasion and your responses (as above) often show that

Having said that, I don't recall saying you weren't 'valued' at any point and I often agree with your views...

For the record, I don't have anyone in 'Keiffer's camp' and never suggested otherwise. I simply criticise him on the evidence as I see it (he down-tooled) and will stand by that...

The U-21 was a completely different situation that had as much to do with our club's off-field antics as it did on-field...

You can admit you are being a hypocrite in this situation. Not in life, not in general.

I'm not disgruntled and certainly not because you know more. Grow up. I know my value, I don't need you to justify that and I know you didn't say I'm not. But you love putting words in others mouths too. There's a lot more about football, footballers and our club I know than you. But I simply don't shout from the rooftops about it.

I agree with you there is more to the situation than I know. I'm not really as bothered as you think I am. If I wanted to I'd find out. I just don't agree with people talking in riddles as you do on occasion.

And I don't agree with unwarranted criticism or protecting people that also deserve it.

But you're never wrong. We know that. I can't win. The end.

You need to read my posts thoroughly if you genuinely believe that, fella...

No hypocrisy from me and as for the rest, it's just 'white-noise' now...

I look forward to your positive and (perhaps) enlightening contributions going forward...

I think that's 3 times now I've read you end a post with a comment like that.

You really believe this board revolves around you.

I think the only arguments anyone ever has on here there is one consistent. I'll leave you to figure that out.

Fella.