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Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:04 pm

I hope I am wrong but I am hearing rumours, from close to the club, that the signature of Aaron Ramsey has hit a snag.

Aaron clearly wants to play for us. He is willing to take a massive pay cut to play for us and all he asks is that he has a small percentage of merchandising rights (shirt sales etc).

Unfortunately, from what I am hearing, Tan does not want Ramsey to have any merchandising rights.

Hopefully, this will sort itself out but if he doesn't sign I don't think it will be Ramseys' fault.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:08 pm

Here we go again

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:22 pm

Who knows whether this is right or not but Tan is supposed to be a successful businessman.

Surely if a dullard like me can see that giving Ramsey say 10% still leaves Tan with 90% of quite a lot whereas at the moment he's got 100% of f**k all.

I'm very confused.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:24 pm

Bale saga 2.0

Different player same problems

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:25 pm

I'm not getting excited about this transfer either way until that he's announced or we hear that it's not going to happen.

But I do hope obviously that we get the transfer done.

The club would be stupid to let him go because he wants a percentage of whatever increase there is on merchandise sales. We can't afford to pay him big money so this would be a fair deal in my view.

If true, I hope these issues can be sorted soon. There will be no rush from Ramsey's point of view to get the deal done, but hopefully we can get him to sign sooner rather than later.

All I will say is people shouldn't compare it to Bale last summer, it's a completely different situation. Bale used us, Ramsey isn't.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:40 pm

No problems, his agent is using our interest in him to drive up his price. Just like Bale last season.

HE WON'T BE SIGNING FOR US.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:40 pm

I’m not sure about the whole Ramsey potentially signing rumours. Whilst people say he’s been training with the squad, by going off his Instagram photos he’s been training individually down the Vale. Maybe people who’ve said he’s training with us have put 2+2 together and got 5. And Erol’s comments post Penybont were taking out of context. Last night he was asked more directly and threw off the rumours as just that really. I’d love him to sign, but I’m not too sure we’re even close to getting him.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:42 pm

Find it hard to know unless someone close to Ramsey or the club is letting private information out, how anyone knows Ramsey’s demands apart from parties involved.
I would love to see him at the club again don’t get me wrong but any contract has to be good for the club as well

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:43 pm

Abergavenny wrote:Find it hard to know unless someone close to Ramsey or the club is letting private information out, how anyone knows Ramsey’s demands apart from parties involved.
I would love to see him at the club again don’t get me wrong but any contract has to be good for the club as well

I feel the same mate.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:56 pm

dazza wrote:No problems, his agent is using our interest in him to drive up his price. Just like Bale last season.

HE WON'T BE SIGNING FOR US.


How do you work that out when the first time the rumours appeared in the national press was yesterday?

If an agent was trying to drive up his price, they'd have put it out to the national press weeks ago.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:03 pm

If he is not signing just move on today , fed up of all the nonsense especially from the main chuckle brother , we have signings which will put 8000 on the gate

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:08 pm

fred keenor wrote:If he is not signing just move on today , fed up of all the nonsense especially from the main chuckle brother , we have signings which will put 8000 on the gate


Yep

After Balegate I decided not to bother the slightest with Ramsey. If he does sign then I will return to the subject but I'm not going to let this board play mind games with me.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:09 pm

Paul is right Ramsey is taking a massive pay cut to come to City and NO Transfer Fee, could stay in France for two more years.

Yes he’s going more for his family and rightly so.

But come on Tan & Dalman you did a big deal for Robinson and it’s proved right, imagine them two.

Ramsey is ready to sign, he deserves a % of the sales of merchandise.

Tan / Dalman don’t f**k up again.

Erol Bulut has stated City need quality.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:14 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Paul is right Ramsey is taking a massive pay cut to come to City and NO Transfer Fee, could stay in France for two more years.

Yes he’s going more for his family and rightly so.

But come on Tan & Dalman you did a big deal for Robinson and it’s proved right, imagine them two.

Ramsey is ready to sign, he deserves a % of the sales of merchandise.

Tan / Dalman don’t f**k up again.

Erol Bulut has stated City need quality.


There’s also the addition of how he’d help bring the youngsters on… you’d imagine the likes of King, Colwill etc, would benefit massively from even just training with someone of his calibre week in week out.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:15 pm

Dalman has flown in from Monaco to sort it out as he will look beyond a fool this time.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:17 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Dalman has flown in from Monaco to sort it out as he will look beyond a fool this time.


Dalman was at the game yesterday though wasn’t he?

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:18 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Dalman has flown in from Monaco to sort it out as he will look beyond a fool this time.

Was told that he's flying in but not to sort it out but basically to take the glory on the singing it's already done .

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:18 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Dalman has flown in from Monaco to sort it out as he will look beyond a fool this time.


Dalman was at the game yesterday though wasn’t he?

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:26 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Paul is right Ramsey is taking a massive pay cut to come to City and NO Transfer Fee, could stay in France for two more years.

Yes he’s going more for his family and rightly so.

But come on Tan & Dalman you did a big deal for Robinson and it’s proved right, imagine them two.

Ramsey is ready to sign, he deserves a % of the sales of merchandise.

Tan / Dalman don’t f**k up again.

Erol Bulut has stated City need quality.

100% need his quality. Without saying our squad is poor directly he has said it with the quote we need quality and all fans would agree with that

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:48 pm

Hopefully it's nothing major and he's signed and sealed by the weekend

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:52 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Dalman has flown in from Monaco to sort it out as he will look beyond a fool this time.

Was told that he's flying in but not to sort it out but basically to take the glory on the singing it's already done .

He can have the glory if he signs, does anyone really know if it will happen or not?

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:14 pm

So much for dalhman having a say if this is the case tan is been either stupid or spiteful

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:16 pm

montyblue wrote:So much for dalhman having a say if this is the case tan is been either stupid or spiteful

Monty I think we should all just wait and see as there’s about 4-5 versions of events that have / will take place above.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:26 pm

Loads of people start rumours to get a wildfire going.
Not saying this about the poster but it's like Chinese whispers.
Take it all with a pinch of salt. There will be negotiations going on. Sure we will find out next week.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:30 pm

bluebird7291 wrote:Loads of people start rumours to get a wildfire going.
Not saying this about the poster but it's like Chinese whispers.
Take it all with a pinch of salt. There will be negotiations going on. Sure we will find out next week.

Exactly.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:32 pm

City should give him a set wage and that's it. He shouldn't have % on shirt sales, who know how much we will sell and city need the money. I want him to come but if its true and demanding this move on

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:37 pm

neilst wrote:City should give him a set wage and that's it. He shouldn't have % on shirt sales, who know how much we will sell and city need the money. I want him to come but if its true and demanding this move on


He's asking for a fair deal.

Similar wages to what Robinson is on plus a percentage of whatever increase there is on merchandise sales from last season - not a percentage of all merchandise sales.

We should offer that.

Like I said, I don't know either way whether the deal will go through or not. But I do think it will.

The fact that Dalman has flown back from Monaco is a good sign.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:50 pm

Makes sense for him to get a % of shirt sales after he signs or as has been said over last seasons amount. We sell an extra 10 shirts he gets not a lot, we sell an extra 10,000 shirts then both him & Cardiff city are making a fair amount. Can't see any sense in not agreeing to that unless he want a huge %.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:52 pm

How much do we make on merchandise I can't imagine it's a hudge sum. So what is 10/20%. I can't see this being of much importance to Ramsey with what he's already worth and if his main motivation is being close to his family.

Re: Ramsey Problems??

Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:57 pm

bluebird7291 wrote:Loads of people start rumours to get a wildfire going.
Not saying this about the poster but it's like Chinese whispers.
Take it all with a pinch of salt. There will be negotiations going on. Sure we will find out next week.


Reputation as a decent poster means a lot to me. I like people to be interested in my posts and for that reason, I do not post things to set the rumour mill going.

As a former club photographer and Newspaper photographer, I still have friends, within the journalistic community, who bring things up now and again. As the adage goes I never reveal my source but the reason I posted this was because I believed it to be true.

Personally, I hope things get sorted and that he does sign this week.