Bulut bashing

Not taken long has it. Only up until yesterday he was the chosen one. Give him and the squad some time, with a wee bit more luck we could be on 9 points.

Spot on.

With some time, we will pick up the results.

The fact is we played very well for the majority of the game and Bulut is doing a great job.

This early on, performances are just as important as results if not more. Always say for the first 5-6 games I'd rather play well and lose than play rubbish and win, because this way we're likely to have a good season.

100% agree. He'll know today's capitulation was not acceptable. Bur he deserves time and patience. We mustn't call for his head and go down the same route of last year. Remember last season, Coventry and Middlesbrough were in the bottom four after ten games. They made the play offs. Luton got promoted and they were also bottom half after 10 games.
Bulut also didn't single out or blame Tanner today either. He just answered the question about his substitution with a straight, blunt answer.

Its not bashing, its just passionate fans opinions of a game.

If we held onto the win then it would be a tactical masterclass but we looked clueless for 10 mins after the second subs

Its a football club not a cult, we are allowed to vent, the first 60 was sublime, i don't think there are many (any) doubters of the manager

Should be big enough to admit to his own mistakes and it's rarely a good idea to criticise your own players in the media.

He's not a rookie Steve Morrison type manager - he's an experienced manager who needs to identify a number of weaknesses (including his own) and put them right quickly.

Bulut likes straight talking so he has to take it as well as give it:

Virtually he was the only person watching that game who thought Tanner was poor and needed to be pulled.

He has an unfit team.

He tinkered with the team when he didn't need to.

He didn't get a striker in during the window.

These are the facts imo.

Not taken long has it. Only up until yesterday he was the chosen one. Give him and the squad some time, with a wee bit more luck we could be on 9 points.

Spot On - Things could be a lot different if We could hold on to 2-0 leads and stop letting goals in other games last few mins.

I've not seen the interview so can't comment completely but could there be an element of language barrier meaning his comments being misconstrude as being blunt/blaming individuals?

You mean Tanner bashing by Bulut.

Bulut says it how he feels, so fabs should be allowed to say it how they feel.

The fans are passionate and nd are venting their frustration.

Bulut should not of singled out just one player a week player at that, that’s not what a good professional manager does, it will hurt Tanners confidence.

Never know the Tanner situation might be a good thing he could be revved up and play a blinder against the Jack's if he has a good mentality, have a point to prove. I was listening on the radio they were saying Tanner was playing well so it must be a injury or tactical as to why he went off. I don't mind a manager criticising a player but don't understand the criticism. A particular incident where he gave the ball away must of really angered Bulut.

You mean Tanner bashing by Bulut.

Bulut says it how he feels, so fabs should be allowed to say it how they feel.

The fans are passionate and nd are venting their frustration.

Bulut should not of singled out just one player a week player at that, that’s not what a good professional manager does, it will hurt Tanners confidence.

Annis, eveyone is frustrated at these results because for long periods of most games so far we look very good, certain players are swiching off and not tracking back to help out. Bulut did not single out tanner, the interviewer asked him why was tanner taken off at half time, was he injured or was it tactics, bulut gave him an honest reply. Going back to yesterday we had enough chances to have blown ipswich away. It will come good for us starting with the tramps in a fortnight.

Not taken long has it. Only up until yesterday he was the chosen one. Give him and the squad some time, with a wee bit more luck we could be on 9 points.

Paul,

Never been my chosen one???

Fully support him like all new managers and my view after 12 league games.

You mean Tanner bashing by Bulut.

Bulut says it how he feels, so fabs should be allowed to say it how they feel.

The fans are passionate and nd are venting their frustration.

Bulut should not of singled out just one player a week player at that, that’s not what a good professional manager does, it will hurt Tanners confidence.

Annis, eveyone is frustrated at these results because for long periods of most games so far we look very good, certain players are swiching off and not tracking back to help out. Bulut did not single out tanner, the interviewer asked him why was tanner taken off at half time, was he injured or was it tactics, bulut gave him an honest reply. Going back to yesterday we had enough chances to have blown ipswich away. It will come good for us starting with the tramps in a fortnight.

Paul,

Tanner well he should just of said I took him off for my reasons, not openly have ago at the lad.

It’s his team and his tactics, so far he has blamed things on luck, nerves , players etc but not his own mistakes.

I want him to have time and no panic of sacking.

Yes we had enough to have blown Leeds, Ipswich, Leicester etc away and never, other clubs are doing it to them all.

We have Jacks, Coventry and Rotherham etc coming up, I will go for 12pts as to me all very winnable games and we should be beating these teams if we don’t want to stay 19th.

With this new squad we should be looking at top 8.

You mean Tanner bashing by Bulut.

Bulut says it how he feels, so fabs should be allowed to say it how they feel.

The fans are passionate and nd are venting their frustration.

Bulut should not of singled out just one player a week player at that, that’s not what a good professional manager does, it will hurt Tanners confidence.

Annis, eveyone is frustrated at these results because for long periods of most games so far we look very good, certain players are swiching off and not tracking back to help out. Bulut did not single out tanner, the interviewer asked him why was tanner taken off at half time, was he injured or was it tactics, bulut gave him an honest reply. Going back to yesterday we had enough chances to have blown ipswich away. It will come good for us starting with the tramps in a fortnight.

Paul,

Tanner well he should just of said I took him off for my reasons, not openly have ago at the lad.

It’s his team and his tactics, so far he has blamed things on luck, nerves , players etc but not his own mistakes.

I want him to have time and no panic of sacking.

Yes we had enough to have blown Leeds, Ipswich, Leicester etc away and never, other clubs are doing it to them all.

We have Jacks, Coventry and Rotherham etc coming up, I will go for 12pts as to me all very winnable games and we should be beating these teams if we don’t want to stay 19th.

With this new squad we should be looking at top 8.

Give him and the squad time (remember, he's not had one penny to spend) and i'm sure results will turn in our favour.

I have not seen the match, or highlights yet, but listened to Radio Wales.
We sounded well in control in the first half and the commentators believed Tanner must have picked up a knock as he was very influential in that first half. They made it clear how well we were playing at that stage.
If it was a tactical change at half time, it certainly backfired; especially to revert to a back five after leaking the first goal.
A word to Tanner at half time should have been sufficient as he was doing many good things in his first league start.
We seemed to lose all shape and desire. Ipswich grew in confidence as we reverted into our shell.
Mistakes were made by the manager and some players lost the desire too easily.
We must take the positives from the first half and learn from the errors beyond this.
I think we could be a comfortable mid-table, but not if we continue making poor decisions.

It could be a whole lot worse, just look at the comments from down the M4, He is being pillared down there for his stupid statement about being happy to lose both derby games

Duff by name Duff by nature

Spot on.

With some time, we will pick up the results.

The fact is we played very well for the majority of the game and Bulut is doing a great job.

This early on, performances are just as important as results if not more. Always say for the first 5-6 games I'd rather play well and lose than play rubbish and win, because this way we're likely to have a good season.

I also agree having watched extended highlights of the game yesterday. What exactly did Erol Bulut do wrong; or the team for that matter...?

In what we billed as a tough game beforehand, the Bluebirds put in a good shift and there were chances at both ends before a well worked Aaron Ramsey goal supplied by the impressive Karlan Grant, who had a goal disallowed and might have had a brace on another day...

The Bluebirds then repelled a potent Ipswich attack who might themselves scored a goal or two bar some excellent saves from the impressive Runarsson and some equally resolute defending...

After half-time, the Bluebirds had the audacity to go two goals up thanks to another excellent goal from the much-aligned Joe Ralls...

Credit to Ipswich, they took the fight to the Bluebirds and got a not undeserved goal back via an excellent strike that none of our recent keepers would have saved...

What happened after that is really what the moaners are clinging to; but let's look at it in reality...

Two very lucky goals that occurred via unlucky deflections that took the ball wildly away from where it was intended. IMHO, no Bluebird to blame directly and certainly not the keeper Runarsson, who I thought had a good game, as did the majority of Bluebird players...

A disappointing result maybe; but not the 'end of days' performance that the 'score dictates all' brigade woukd have us think...

Better days ahead...!

It could be a whole lot worse, just look at the comments from down the M4, He is being pillared down there for his stupid statement about being happy to lose both derby games

Duff by name Duff by nature

Clearly a 'Duff' manager; I would have thought it was in his contract that nothing matters except their two-legged mini season...

We lost.now move o to the next game and support the squad and manager and give them time

You mean Tanner bashing by Bulut.

Bulut says it how he feels, so fabs should be allowed to say it how they feel.

The fans are passionate and nd are venting their frustration.

Bulut should not of singled out just one player a week player at that, that’s not what a good professional manager does, it will hurt Tanners confidence.

I understand passionate fans but most of the twatter shit I read makes no sense.I just look at it this way.

Is the football better than last season. Yes no doubt, we just got to turn 60min performances into 90 mins plus

Are the results better. unfortunately not. But I think they will improve. I might well understand some of the comments if the side was getting spanked every week and still looked like we did last season.

I don't need 12 games to see how this is going and I'm willing to be patient because I know changing the manager every 5mins is not the answer. I've been a fan of Tanner since the word go but I don't think a ticking off will do him any harm at all,in fact, its about time some of the players stood up to be counted and I'm sure they will.

You mean Tanner bashing by Bulut.

Bulut says it how he feels, so fabs should be allowed to say it how they feel.

The fans are passionate and nd are venting their frustration.

Bulut should not of singled out just one player a week player at that, that’s not what a good professional manager does, it will hurt Tanners confidence.

I understand passionate fans but most of the twatter shit I read makes no sense.I just look at it this way.

Is the football better than last season. Yes no doubt, we just got to turn 60min performances into 90 mins plus

Are the results better. unfortunately not. But I think they will improve. I might well understand some of the comments if the side was getting spanked every week and still looked like we did last season.

I don't need 12 games to see how this is going and I'm willing to be patient because I know changing the manager every 5mins is not the answer. I've been a fan of Tanner since the word go but I don't think a ticking off will do him any harm at all,in fact, its about time some of the players stood up to be counted and I'm sure they will.

Top post ,

You mean Tanner bashing by Bulut.

Bulut says it how he feels, so fabs should be allowed to say it how they feel.

The fans are passionate and nd are venting their frustration.

Bulut should not of singled out just one player a week player at that, that’s not what a good professional manager does, it will hurt Tanners confidence.

I understand passionate fans but most of the twatter shit I read makes no sense.I just look at it this way.

Is the football better than last season. Yes no doubt, we just got to turn 60min performances into 90 mins plus

Are the results better. unfortunately not. But I think they will improve. I might well understand some of the comments if the side was getting spanked every week and still looked like we did last season.

I don't need 12 games to see how this is going and I'm willing to be patient because I know changing the manager every 5mins is not the answer. I've been a fan of Tanner since the word go but I don't think a ticking off will do him any harm at all,in fact, its about time some of the players stood up to be counted and I'm sure they will.

Well said

I do think amidst the hysteria surrounding the manager’s comment about Tanner,it’s easy to forget he was on a booking for a moment of petulance, I don’t think he wanted to risk him getting a second yellow, tough lesson to learn but he’s a professional and should act like one.

[quote][/quote][/img]The only manager who hasn't been bashed since we've
been on the new stadium is Malky.

Just mentioning Malky has made me realise just how good a manager that bloke was. From the off, as soon as he came in, we were a well oiled machine with purpose. But for 1 bad buy (Cornelius), he couldn't do any wrong could he. The football wasn't always pretty but it was controlled, organised, disciplined and the players worked their balls off for him. I loved Warnock but Malky for me will always be the best manager we've had in the modern era. Who knows where we would be if Tan's war with him hadnt started. Hopefully Bullet can give him a run for his money...just a little patience is all that is needed!

I don't think people are necessarily moaning - you've got to remember we've come off 3 successive seasons of mediocrity culminating in last season which was absolutely dire, particularly at home.

Supporters understandably worn down by the previous dross and understandably don't want a 4th season of underachievement and total lack of quality in the performances.

No-one wants more of the same and to see a 2 goal lead surrendered probably street some bitter memories. Overreaction? Perhaps but let's see how things are swinging after 10+ matches

Well said Paul. Firstly Bullet was asked a question “why was tanner taken off at halftime
He simply said he wasn’t happy with his performance he didn’t blame him for anything. Irrespective of any stats he would have told Tanner what he wanted him to do and obviously he wasn’t doing it.
Would you all rather our manager was a liar??

Just mentioning Malky has made me realise just how good a manager that bloke was. From the off, as soon as he came in, we were a well oiled machine with purpose. But for 1 bad buy (Cornelius), he couldn't do any wrong could he. The football wasn't always pretty but it was controlled, organised, disciplined and the players worked their balls off for him. I loved Warnock but Malky for me will always be the best manager we've had in the modern era. Who knows where we would be if Tan's war with him hadnt started. Hopefully Bullet can give him a run for his money...just a little patience is all that is needed!

He had DJ’s best players still playing for us.

Easy to have a well oiled machine when you got Peter Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton and Hudson as your base.

Just mentioning Malky has made me realise just how good a manager that bloke was. From the off, as soon as he came in, we were a well oiled machine with purpose. But for 1 bad buy (Cornelius), he couldn't do any wrong could he. The football wasn't always pretty but it was controlled, organised, disciplined and the players worked their balls off for him. I loved Warnock but Malky for me will always be the best manager we've had in the modern era. Who knows where we would be if Tan's war with him hadnt started. Hopefully Bullet can give him a run for his money...just a little patience is all that is needed!

He had DJ’s best players still playing for us.

Easy to have a well oiled machine when you got Peter Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton and Hudson as your base.

True, he inherited several quality players, especially Whitts. He still had to bring a lot of his own players in too though. Didn't he come in to a squad of barely a dozen players? He's the stand out manager for me. He was rebuilding the club, just wasn't allowed to finish the job and cement us as a premier league team. Suppose he's old news now...it's Bulut we need to support/help/worry about haha!

We lost.now move o to the next game and support the squad and manager and give them time