WHY ARE WE NOT PERFORMING ? : I can honestly say that

WHY ARE WE NOT PERFORMING ? :


I can honestly say that I am baffled , frustrated and somewhat angry - as I can not put my finger on what is wrong ?


Like most , I was really happy we had finally improved the management team. Well you could not of got any worse and the players we have assembled do look a lot better.


I had good expectations . I still do ….but doubt is starting to creep in steadily . Was I kidding myself ? SO WHY ARE WE NOT PICKING THE POINTS ?

Can someone here shed more light as to why ?



(1) Is it luck ?


(2) Is it lack of fitness ?


(3) Is it the manager not picking the right team ?


(4) Is it the manager’s tactics ?


(5) Is it the manager’s substitutions …and reading of the game ??


(6) Are we simply not good enough overall ?or in Attack , MF , Defence , GK ?

(7) Are we lacking leadership on the pitch ?


(8) Are we lacking confidence as a whole ?

(9) Are we lacking in discipline and concentration to stick to the plan for the whole 90 minutes ?


(10) Is it that nothing is much wrong , and it it just one of those things ….and it will get right soon ? (11)Is it that we have had many changes in the team and it is taking time for them to gel together ?Generally we appear to get worse as the game progresses .


Even against Sheffield Wednesday we got a lucky penalty when they were in the ascendancy . We seem to have a good plan and a good shape then somehow it all goes haywire . What the hell is happening and why ?

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Erol Bulut blames “bad discipline down the left side” and missed chances for Ipswich defeat. Says players need to do a lot more out of possession and “fight”.


Bulut asked about Tanner substitution, Bulut said: “I was not satisfied with his performance.”

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WHY ARE WE NOT PERFORMING ? :


I can honestly say that I am baffled , frustrated and somewhat angry - as I can not put my finger on what is wrong ?


Like most , I was really happy we had finally improved the management team. Well you could not of got any worse and the players we have assembled do look a lot better.


I had good expectations . I still do ….but doubt is starting to creep in steadily . Was I kidding myself ? SO WHY ARE WE NOT PICKING THE POINTS ?

Can someone here shed more light as to why ?



(1) Is it luck ?


(2) Is it lack of fitness ?


(3) Is it the manager not picking the right team ?


(4) Is it the manager’s tactics ?


(5) Is it the manager’s substitutions …and reading of the game ??


(6) Are we simply not good enough overall ?or in Attack , MF , Defence , GK ?

(7) Are we lacking leadership on the pitch ?


(8) Are we lacking confidence as a whole ?

(9) Are we lacking in discipline and concentration to stick to the plan for the whole 90 minutes ?


(10) Is it that nothing is much wrong , and it it just one of those things ….and it will get right soon ? (11)Is it that we have had many changes in the team and it is taking time for them to gel together ?Generally we appear to get worse as the game progresses .


Even against Sheffield Wednesday we got a lucky penalty when they were in the ascendancy . We seem to have a good plan and a good shape then somehow it all goes haywire . What the hell is happening and why ?

Our total inability to manage a game when we are in control.

WHY ARE WE NOT PERFORMING ? :


I can honestly say that I am baffled , frustrated and somewhat angry - as I can not put my finger on what is wrong ?


Like most , I was really happy we had finally improved the management team. Well you could not of got any worse and the players we have assembled do look a lot better.


I had good expectations . I still do ….but doubt is starting to creep in steadily . Was I kidding myself ? SO WHY ARE WE NOT PICKING THE POINTS ?

Can someone here shed more light as to why ?



(1) Is it luck ?


(2) Is it lack of fitness ?


(3) Is it the manager not picking the right team ?


(4) Is it the manager’s tactics ?


(5) Is it the manager’s substitutions …and reading of the game ??


(6) Are we simply not good enough overall ?or in Attack , MF , Defence , GK ?

(7) Are we lacking leadership on the pitch ?


(8) Are we lacking confidence as a whole ?

(9) Are we lacking in discipline and concentration to stick to the plan for the whole 90 minutes ?


(10) Is it that nothing is much wrong , and it it just one of those things ….and it will get right soon ? (11)Is it that we have had many changes in the team and it is taking time for them to gel together ?Generally we appear to get worse as the game progresses .


Even against Sheffield Wednesday we got a lucky penalty when they were in the ascendancy . We seem to have a good plan and a good shape then somehow it all goes haywire . What the hell is happening and why ?

Our total inability to manage a game when we are in control.

That probably is one of main downfalls.

We are performing for 60 mins though.

The championship is a close league, its competitive, not many can sit on a lead and soak it up, as the opposition generally go shit or bust.

We have aided them by changing the stuff we have done well to be in the lead to counter their extra forwards.

We ended up with three centre halfs and two defensive midfielders but looked so dodgy at the back. McGuiness, Goutas, Panza, NG, collins, Siopis are not Bamba, Morrison, Peltier, Bennett & Gunnar !!!! If they were then go 2 up and try to sit in, but when we are 2 up we need the third and the fourth because defence is not our strength this season

We are going to need to go full Dave Jones

Its early days, and Bulut started at a really low baseline, hampered by the embargo.

Hes done a great job so far. Well done Erol..

It's a mix of things but I would say our main issue is we are primarily set up to counter attack. We don't press or dominate teams sufficiently and allow them to build more possession and confidence in the game. When we fall back into our shell like yesterday we don't seem to be able to wrestle ourselves back into possession. The Leeds, Ipswich and to some extent Sheff Wed games were very similar in the second half. This is where a lack of a recognised target man/No 9 is hurting us. We haven't got a natural striker who can hold the ball up and allow the team to get out when under pressure. Kieffer Moore would be ideal. Meite is a makeshift striker and the weak link at the moment. I really fear for us in the derby again if we don't press higher enough up the pitch. Although disappointed with the results I do think the football we are playing is much better and we will get more than 4 points from our next 5 games. I am not fearing relegation but being a top half team is a fantasy at the moment.

In all games so far we seem to have one good half and one poor half except Sheff wed where it was more patchy. It's like we r decent for 45 mins a game.

It’s a mixture of all those things plus a relatively new management team and players who are still unfamiliar with each other on the pitch in certain cases.
I also think there are issues with Bulut not fully trusting the players in the pitch even when it’s going well and then making unnecessary changes like yesterday.
Like someone said ,we are a 60 minute team at the moment and not seeing out games …the points we have lost already from good positions is quite telling tbh

Bulut is right in his interview that certain players are not tracking back and helping out when we are under pressure. We are also not putting teams to bed when in front/on top, we could easily have been 3-0 up yesterday and game over. It will come.

Lets Get one thing Out there - WE HAVE A VERY GOOD SQUAD!

Statement - For the first hour yesterday we were stunning against a side that was in full flow themselves

Yesterday when it went from 2-0 up to 3-2 down the following there were 3 of the defensive players with very little experience playing for City
1. Runnerson ( league debut)
2. Panzo ( league debut & any only just come on the pitch)
3. Siopsis ( 2nd match)

Operating as an effective defensive unit takes time We will improve, however I am not totally sold on Guatas, he does not get tight enough to his man. One thing I would say about yesterday is the last two Ipswich goals were a very lucky with the bounce.

I was not convinced about the game management by Bulut yesterday, I think he is still trying to find out his most effective team and tactics.
The team as a whole will need to step up the concentration for a full 90 minutes, when that happens we will start climbing up the table.

I am still very confident that given the international break, the coaches will have the opportunity to sort out the heads of the players in readiness for "that match"!
On the case of "That match" our country cousins down the M$ are in a big mess and their Duff manager is all over the shop OPPS!

As per my previous post, straight talking as Bulut prefers, the manager:

1) Failed to recruit a striker in the window, we didn't do it last year or the year before, goals win games. This will hurt us.

2) Failed to get a team fit enough to last 90mins in the championship. Ramsey, Goutas, Ralls, Miete, Grant, Collins all can't last 90mins

3) Made a bad substitution yesterday with Tanner. I think 100% of the people who watched that game thought it was wrong except him. Tanner had just put a perfect ball on a plate for Miete to blaze over.

4) Tinkered with the team from 45mins to 70mins, confusion and disorganisation.

5) Needs to own the problems, not blame others. If his team are not doing what he wants it is on him not the team.

Bulut is right in his interview that certain players are not tracking back and helping out when we are under pressure. We are also not putting teams to bed when in front/on top, we could easily have been 3-0 up yesterday and game over. It will come.

But as mentioned above. We are sitting back and playing very defensively. Which means the forwards are having to spend more of their time on the pitch, defending. Both the premier league and championship aren’t the best places to let yourself lay off and play deep. Too many players in the majority of teams quite able to score.

There seems to be a change in shape and tactics when defending a lead.

This then adds even more pressure from the opponents that are pressing anyway.

I would like to see what would happen if we continued our own press after going up one or two goals. It would make the opposing team think twice before pressing to heavily.

Management team need to wise up.This is the championship.!00 minutes per game.
I'd like to see Ramsey play deeper with Robinson/Colwill in the no 10 roll.
The game seems to change when Wintle comes on.I still think him and Ralls are the weak link.

WHY ARE WE NOT PERFORMING ? :


I can honestly say that I am baffled , frustrated and somewhat angry - as I can not put my finger on what is wrong ?


Like most , I was really happy we had finally improved the management team. Well you could not of got any worse and the players we have assembled do look a lot better.


I had good expectations . I still do ….but doubt is starting to creep in steadily . Was I kidding myself ? SO WHY ARE WE NOT PICKING THE POINTS ?

Can someone here shed more light as to why ?



(1) Is it luck ?


(2) Is it lack of fitness ?


(3) Is it the manager not picking the right team ?


(4) Is it the manager’s tactics ?


(5) Is it the manager’s substitutions …and reading of the game ??


(6) Are we simply not good enough overall ?or in Attack , MF , Defence , GK ?

(7) Are we lacking leadership on the pitch ?


(8) Are we lacking confidence as a whole ?

(9) Are we lacking in discipline and concentration to stick to the plan for the whole 90 minutes ?


(10) Is it that nothing is much wrong , and it it just one of those things ….and it will get right soon ? (11)Is it that we have had many changes in the team and it is taking time for them to gel together ?Generally we appear to get worse as the game progresses .


Even against Sheffield Wednesday we got a lucky penalty when they were in the ascendancy . We seem to have a good plan and a good shape then somehow it all goes haywire . What the hell is happening and why ?

As soon as Ralls and Ramsey (r&r) leave the pitch is a possible answer you are seeking ( both probably incapable of 90mins currently) Also the age old adage ‘attack is the best form of defence’ needs to be adopted permanently. We will get there

Lets Get one thing Out there - WE HAVE A VERY GOOD SQUAD!

Statement - For the first hour yesterday we were stunning against a side that was in full flow themselves

Yesterday when it went from 2-0 up to 3-2 down the following there were 3 of the defensive players with very little experience playing for City
1. Runnerson ( league debut)
2. Panzo ( league debut & any only just come on the pitch)
3. Siopsis ( 2nd match)

Operating as an effective defensive unit takes time We will improve, however I am not totally sold on Guatas, he does not get tight enough to his man. One thing I would say about yesterday is the last two Ipswich goals were a very lucky with the bounce.

I was not convinced about the game management by Bulut yesterday, I think he is still trying to find out his most effective team and tactics.
The team as a whole will need to step up the concentration for a full 90 minutes, when that happens we will start climbing up the table.

I am still very confident that given the international break, the coaches will have the opportunity to sort out the heads of the players in readiness for "that match"!
On the case of "That match" our country cousins down the M$ are in a big mess and their Duff manager is all over the shop OPPS!

Don’t disagree with a lot of what you say, but on the 3 points you mention

Yesterday when it went from 2-0 up to 3-2 down the following there were 3 of the defensive players with very little experience playing for City
1. Runnerson ( league debut) why start with him when Alnwick has been excellent so far? For me there was no need to change keepers.
2. Panzo ( league debut & any only just come on the pitch) why was he brought on? As his position is such a critical one (and we already have 2 CB’s getting used to playing as a pair). Instead why not let him get some training sessions under his belt with team mates?
3. Siopsis ( 2nd match) he’s fine. And has virtually slotted in straight away.

I think patients is the key,last season we were all saying that the club didn't have a plan, a direction in which they were going in, now we seem to have that we have a good manager a much better squad and we are actually trying to play football something we are not really used to and even although the some of the results are not as good as what I would like the performances are vastly improved, they are just not managing it for the ninety minutes yet but I honestly believe that will come. I know we all want this to happen instantly after the last few seasons but it does take time I agree with the manager we have got to be better with the the ball in forward positions give the ball away cheaply in those positions and it can put pressure on our defence.There isn't any way this side will be anywhere near the relegation places come the end of the season and let's be honest that's a vast improvement on last season so let's get behind the team and support them and again just my opinion I think we will be celebrating our first victory against Swansea in two years.

It's time that's needed, the only real way to learn is from making mistakes.
So for me a combination of all of op's points and some more patience needed.
If lessons are not learnt after 10-15 games then I will start to worry.

Patience is needed....frustration is because we can all see the potential positives of this squad. Managers make mistakes too but Bulut for me has to be given much more time before any talk of getting rid. Not 12 games but Xmas is fair enough to judge

I've not seen the championship matches as i'm in hospital but the team needs time to gel, more defensive drills needed. Yesterday it sounded like thhe manager ruined our flow with early defensive substitutions

The tinkering with formations and changing players in a few games kills me when we are winning tbh.

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Patience is needed....frustration is because we can all see the potential positives of this squad. Managers make mistakes too but Bulut for me has to be given much more time before any talk of getting rid. Not 12 games but Xmas is fair enough to judge

Do you really think our fickle fans could give until Xmas..
Did you see the meltdown after yesterday?
I understand the anger and frustration just not the massive over reaction

Patience is needed....frustration is because we can all see the potential positives of this squad. Managers make mistakes too but Bulut for me has to be given much more time before any talk of getting rid. Not 12 games but Xmas is fair enough to judge

Do you really think our fickle fans could give until Xmas..
Did you see the meltdown after yesterday?
I understand the anger and frustration just not the massive over reaction

It's hardly an over reaction when we was 2 nil up and he went to a back 5 and made subs. That's what went on and we lost the game once we was 3-2 down he changed it back so tells most he made the wrong decisions. That's the bottom line and that's what we all seen happen so why can't fans say how it is. Basic facts ain't an over reaction tbh but we will come good we have to as the footballs miles better now

Just a complete over reaction but our fickle fan base

We are playing good football, creating chances and scoring goals

This squad is comfortable mid table fans just need to have some patience we will get better and will learn to see out games better than we are at present

Patience is needed....frustration is because we can all see the potential positives of this squad. Managers make mistakes too but Bulut for me has to be given much more time before any talk of getting rid. Not 12 games but Xmas is fair enough to judge

Do you really think our fickle fans could give until Xmas..
Did you see the meltdown after yesterday?
I understand the anger and frustration just not the massive over reaction

It's hardly an over reaction when we was 2 nil up and he went to a back 5 and made subs. That's what went on and we lost the game once we was 3-2 down he changed it back so tells most he made the wrong decisions. That's the bottom line and that's what we all seen happen so why can't fans say how it is. Basic facts ain't an over reaction tbh but we will come good we have to as the footballs miles better now

It is 100% an over reaction by the people calling for the manager to be sacked after 5 games. I get that we are frustrated after being 0-2 up & losing 3-2 and the crticism is fair but a lot of it is way over the top.

Patience is needed....frustration is because we can all see the potential positives of this squad. Managers make mistakes too but Bulut for me has to be given much more time before any talk of getting rid. Not 12 games but Xmas is fair enough to judge

Do you really think our fickle fans could give until Xmas..
Did you see the meltdown after yesterday?
I understand the anger and frustration just not the massive over reaction

It's hardly an over reaction when we was 2 nil up and he went to a back 5 and made subs. That's what went on and we lost the game once we was 3-2 down he changed it back so tells most he made the wrong decisions. That's the bottom line and that's what we all seen happen so why can't fans say how it is. Basic facts ain't an over reaction tbh but we will come good we have to as the footballs miles better now

It is 100% an over reaction by the people calling for the manager to be sacked after 5 games. I get that we are frustrated after being 0-2 up & losing 3-2 and the crticism is fair but a lot of it is way over the top.

Where have I said I want the manger sacked and tbh I've not seen anyone say that after 5 games if so that's bonkers

Just a complete over reaction but our fickle fan base

We are playing good football, creating chances and scoring goals

This squad is comfortable mid table fans just need to have some patience we will get better and will learn to see out games better than we are at present

Totally agree. Once we gel and cut out the mistake we will be on a good run and I feel we will be near the playoffs spots

Just a complete over reaction but our fickle fan base

We are playing good football, creating chances and scoring goals

This squad is comfortable mid table fans just need to have some patience we will get better and will learn to see out games better than we are at present

Totally agree. Once we gel and cut out the mistake we will be on a good run and I feel we will be near the playoffs spots

I'd say top two wez tbh seems I've been on the crack pipe tonight also

Patience is needed....frustration is because we can all see the potential positives of this squad. Managers make mistakes too but Bulut for me has to be given much more time before any talk of getting rid. Not 12 games but Xmas is fair enough to judge

Do you really think our fickle fans could give until Xmas..
Did you see the meltdown after yesterday?
I understand the anger and frustration just not the massive over reaction

It's hardly an over reaction when we was 2 nil up and he went to a back 5 and made subs. That's what went on and we lost the game once we was 3-2 down he changed it back so tells most he made the wrong decisions. That's the bottom line and that's what we all seen happen so why can't fans say how it is. Basic facts ain't an over reaction tbh but we will come good we have to as the footballs miles better now

It is 100% an over reaction by the people calling for the manager to be sacked after 5 games. I get that we are frustrated after being 0-2 up & losing 3-2 and the crticism is fair but a lot of it is way over the top.

Where have I said I want the manger sacked and tbh I've not seen anyone say that after 5 games if so that's bonkers

I didn't say that you said it but that some had said it, I saw it on one of the twatter posts that Annis put up yesterday. Glad we agree that it's bonkers.